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Chances for Ivy league admissions

Please let me know
judgmental set
  04/26/08
Sure.
Puce indian lodge
  04/26/08
Most important for these colleges is what classes you took. ...
fishy famous landscape painting
  04/26/08
Well basically I live in Canada, where AP's are just startin...
judgmental set
  04/26/08
I think your chances of getting in are: Cornell - 65% Ya...
exciting topaz wrinkle dingle berry
  04/26/08
where did the top 5-10 kids at your school get in last year?...
hateful telephone
  04/26/08
last year, our top student got accepted to harvard, and this...
judgmental set
  04/26/08
canada certainly doesnt help....might make it harder actuall...
hateful telephone
  04/26/08
How so?
judgmental set
  04/26/08
Because colleges are gunning for a mainly American campus. I...
fishy famous landscape painting
  04/26/08
Seems like if you do well on the SAT (1450+), you should at ...
swashbuckling associate
  04/26/08
I'm sure you'll get in at McGill. With your numbers, your go...
fishy famous landscape painting
  04/26/08
I go to a public school in a suburb north of toronto - we ha...
judgmental set
  04/26/08
[edit] What did that kid do?
fishy famous landscape painting
  04/26/08
This kid was inhuman thoguh - he discovered a new treatment ...
judgmental set
  04/26/08
well you should look at his inschool activity and see if you...
fishy famous landscape painting
  04/26/08
Thanks alot...it really helps. -Zack
judgmental set
  04/26/08
Indeed, the first thing that troubled me was the low number ...
Alcoholic multi-billionaire
  05/09/08
whoa ok, chill out everyone. OP, you are doing everything...
hateful telephone
  04/26/08
Hey, I am from Canada (Montreal more specifically), and I...
Vigorous up-to-no-good lodge place of business
  05/09/08
I hear you, my friend, but nobody has ever been rejected by ...
Alcoholic multi-billionaire
  05/10/08


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Date: April 26th, 2008 1:48 AM
Author: judgmental set
Subject: Please let me know

Hey please let me know if these stats add up to much:

SAT prospects (only practise so far) 2200- 2340

AP prospects: Calculus - 5, biology - 5

high school average: 95%

class rank: 1/350

ECs: worked with an autistic child one on one for an entire summer, this summer have a secured position in research at a hospital

As well, placed 7th team (me and a partner) at queens university natioanl debating tournament.

Most importantly, very accomplished pianist (finished royal conservatory and teaches)

This on top of smaller, school related activities

So, do I have a chance at Harvard? Yale? Princeton? Cornell?

Thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9686229)





Date: April 26th, 2008 8:57 AM
Author: Puce indian lodge

Sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687125)





Date: April 26th, 2008 10:07 AM
Author: fishy famous landscape painting

Most important for these colleges is what classes you took. How many AP's does your school allow you to take? And how many did you take in the time allotted? Honors classes count also.

Also with classes, is your course load diverse with artistic classes. Maybe you've taken two languages. Independent Study would help.

I don't think you'll get into HYP without 5 expected AP classes by the time you graduate. If you did get into one of the 3, my bet would be Yale. Also with the piano gig, did you use your musical talents in school also (playing in Band).

Theres a supplement (art and music) thats where you will be able to show your talent to them personally.

SAT II's are necessary. Showing consistency between ACT and SAT is good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687156)





Date: April 26th, 2008 12:20 PM
Author: judgmental set

Well basically I live in Canada, where AP's are just starting to be offered...that means the only ones i have at my disposal are calculus and biology (and economics, which I cannot fit in to my courseload).

Will the American colleges recognize this?

And yes, i play in the school jazz band, but its not such a time consuming extra curricular

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687550)





Date: April 26th, 2008 10:33 AM
Author: exciting topaz wrinkle dingle berry

I think your chances of getting in are:

Cornell - 65%

Yale - 40%

Princeton - 30%

Harvard - 25%

Do some more APs!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687209)





Date: April 26th, 2008 11:33 AM
Author: hateful telephone

where did the top 5-10 kids at your school get in last year? the year before?

this is actually a really helpful metric. if you are in the type of school that routinely sends 3+ kids to HYPSMC, your rank will mean a hell of a lot.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687375)





Date: April 26th, 2008 12:22 PM
Author: judgmental set

last year, our top student got accepted to harvard, and this year to cornell.

Does being from Canada help at all (filling an international quota)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687558)





Date: April 26th, 2008 12:23 PM
Author: hateful telephone

canada certainly doesnt help....might make it harder actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687562)





Date: April 26th, 2008 12:27 PM
Author: judgmental set

How so?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687579)





Date: April 26th, 2008 1:07 PM
Author: fishy famous landscape painting

Because colleges are gunning for a mainly American campus. If you want international acceptance go to BU.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9687731)





Date: April 26th, 2008 2:16 PM
Author: swashbuckling associate

Seems like if you do well on the SAT (1450+), you should at least get into a lower Ivy or other top 10-15 school. HYP are always a crap shoot even with perfect stats, aren't they? Do you go to a good high school? Private or Public? Is it a Toronto area school that routinely sends kids to the US, so that schools will be familiar with it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688031)





Date: April 26th, 2008 2:23 PM
Author: fishy famous landscape painting

I'm sure you'll get in at McGill. With your numbers, your gonna need like 20 applications to be happy by the time the process is over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688066)





Date: April 26th, 2008 2:52 PM
Author: judgmental set

I go to a public school in a suburb north of toronto - we have sent students to ivy leagues in the past (last year one kid got into harvard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688175)





Date: April 26th, 2008 2:54 PM
Author: fishy famous landscape painting

[edit] What did that kid do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688186)





Date: April 26th, 2008 2:59 PM
Author: judgmental set

This kid was inhuman thoguh - he discovered a new treatment and a gene related to fetal alcohol syndrome which got him second place at an international science competition, he got an asteroid named after him for a first place finish in a national apace contest, hes an artist, and a black belt...

Do you really need to be this good to get into harvard??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688210)





Date: April 26th, 2008 3:45 PM
Author: fishy famous landscape painting

well you should look at his inschool activity and see if you've got a chance at modeling it.. that was kind of tradition at my small private school, following former seniors in their road to college. Really we found that college decisions were pretty consistent and we could quantitatively rationalize what colleges we would or wouldn't get into including HYP.

The girl I know who got in last year was merely an A+ student, with a 2350, first generation though, but was an overall class citizen participating in several things, nothing overblown. She did science research but I don't think she completed it. She was bilingual in Russian and English. Though she didnt do it, theater doesn't hurt.

Just some advice.. among the intellectuals in my class there was one elite group that was very strong in Literature and Language, where they took an extra language or created an advanced college level English course. I was in the music and artistic crowd where one friend was a renowned Julliard violinist who got into Yale, and I served in every music performance group and extracurricular and went to Northwestern. What I noticed in college was that all of our passions merged into the others interest strongly (part of the cross competition maybe??) so don't be one-sided, but easily focus your energies into the extra things you can do.

What I suggest is taking AP Music Theory, and AP Spanish/French. If you pass your language early, you don't have to take 2 years of it (probably the most inconvenient schedule waste of time for a Freshman/Sophmore). Anything you were doing Junior Year, you want to be doing it next year, the more extracurriculars the better. I think you'll prove you really have a knack for conversing, interpretative, and natural elitism if you take up a second Foreign language as independent study. Russian, Latin, German (something out there your school doesn't teach but you may get mentored in). If you want HYP, don't make your Senior schedule easy. Also, PLEASE have another volunteer job outside of the Hospital. Help the homeless and get dirty, but don't just rely on Hospital work. I really think they hate comparing the hospital volunteers to each other when it comes to final choices. They can only assume you spend your time ass kissing the intellectual Johns Hopkins doctor who you hope will give a recommendation, doing homework, or claiming 200 hours of work reading a book to an old woman. Really think broadly with community service, the more original your ideas are the more they appreciate your effort at standing out. If the title of your community service activity is really broad, make sure you explain what you did and how it has affected you somewhere in your application. Also you should be apart of the leadership of an organization. Also, Artwork is a major plus if your good at it. You can send your slides to them.

And also, as a side note from wisdom, that I think no one in college would tell you but you should know.. is that while you still have time go to Barnes and Noble and find some books that scientifically stimulate your mind, and pop fiction. I can bet you that by the time you reach college you will be a little scattered. You don't want to get there and forget how you used to read and how fast!!! I know people in the upper epsilon of higher education who either read to fast or too slow because everything you read in High School is interpreted as important and quintessential to your journey to knowledge. Now that they have to read 6 novels for ONE class in 10 weeks, they are speeding through passages getting little to nothing from it.

But by the time your in college, you've looked at so much information that your intellectual challenge have drifted into other arenas of your life. I KNOW, it seems bizarre for intellectuals.. but your really just a layman. Don't worry about friendships, because they're like magic, but try and gain some perspective in how you read for fun.

Thats it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688433)





Date: April 26th, 2008 5:19 PM
Author: judgmental set

Thanks alot...it really helps.

-Zack

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9688877)





Date: May 9th, 2008 2:55 PM
Author: Alcoholic multi-billionaire

Indeed, the first thing that troubled me was the low number of AP courses you have. I would strongly urge you to consider the semi-Ivy's too. Rice has a great conservatory together with a superb science faculty. Columbia + Juilliard have an interesting joint-degree gig if you want to work really hard. Vanderbilt has a good conservatory too.....so you have have some fine choices as back-ups. Johns Hopkins is superb in both science and music as well. But again, your AP load will be a determining factor.

The admissions committees will understand if your school hasn't many AP offerings, but then will expect you to take classes at your local college and do well in them. That goes to motivation and seriousness of purpose. That would prolly do it - if you do very well in those courses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9760129)





Date: April 26th, 2008 8:09 PM
Author: hateful telephone

whoa ok, chill out everyone.

OP, you are doing everything right. work hard to nail the SATs (above 2250 if possible), keep your #1 ranking and get involved/continue to be involved in activities you love (if possible, take on a leadership role). Put some effort into your essays and select your reccomenders carefully. Apply and hope for the best. id be mildy surprised if you didnt get into one of HYPS. and you are likely in at cornell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9689715)





Date: May 9th, 2008 12:54 PM
Author: Vigorous up-to-no-good lodge place of business

Hey,

I am from Canada (Montreal more specifically), and I got accepted to Yale this year. Because of the Quebec education system, I never took AP or IB classes. Secondary school finishes after grade 11, and then we go off to cegep, which is a pre-university institution. We are supposed to complete our program of choice after two years, but some people stay as long as four years or so. My program was Liberal Arts, which was an honours program and had a rigorous workload. Anyway, I suppose I can't compare my program to that of the APs because I have nothing to compare it with...

As for extracurriculars, I participate in the drama clubs, although admittedly I have not been as active as I was in high school. In any case, I listed my high school activities, which included being part of the grad committee, basketball team, cheerleading, dance, acting, co-writing our play, newspaper, albeit these were not done all in one year haha. I took some things up then abandoned them for other things that interested me each year. I do volunteer at an animal shelter and I spent my last summer volunteering at an orphanage in Cambodia. I have also volunteered at hospitals, but not in research or anything.

As for my SAT IIs and my ACTs... applying to Yale was a very impromptu decision for me, so I registered for the tests pretty much the day before the deadline, and I knew I couldn't take the tests again in January because I was traveling around Egypt until the end of January, and I couldn't retake the ACTs in February because I'd have to catch up with school. Anyhow, the tests were pretty much at the end of my semester, so I also didn't have a lot of time to study for them. In fact, for the saturday that my ACT was to take place, I had about 5 exams, 3 essays and 2 orals due that week. In that case, I really was not able to study a lot, and admittedly, I did not receive marvelous scores. I got a 29 on my ACT, which is in the 95th percentile, but I thought it wouldn't be good enough for Yale given most score in the 30s. But I think that they took into account that I am from Canada and have never taken a standardized test in my life, and I only took it once.

My essays were pretty good, I found. Liberal Arts taught me how to write well. The key is to write with heart. My teacher recommendations were also very excellent (my teachers let me read them haha).

The point of my message is that, as you can see from my "credentials," I am not the perfect student who has saved the world twice from a dangerous disease and who has scored perfect on all my standardized tests. I also don't participate in a million extracurricular activities. So in the end, the perfect resume on paper doesn't matter all that much. What they're looking for is an interesting person who they think will truly contribute to the diversity of their class. I was told that my maturity, resilience and strength truly impressed them. Ultimately, it will be hard to evaluate whether or not you get in. I have heard of people who have applied to Yale who have won national and international science fairs, who have achieved perfect scores, etc, and yet they didn't get in, and I used to and still wonder how I was chosen over them. I even emailed my admissions officer and asked him, and what he said was that "the admissions process is not a science, it's an art, and often art doesn't have very clear explanations" and I think that's the best way to describe it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9759601)





Date: May 10th, 2008 12:41 PM
Author: Alcoholic multi-billionaire

I hear you, my friend, but nobody has ever been rejected by the elites because her scores are too high and his extracurriculars too extraordinary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=804628&forum_id=1#9763557)