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Date: May 8th, 2008 4:44 PM Author: aqua diverse cruise ship partner Defying pessimistic predictions, admissions yield holds strong at 69 percent.
Yale College will make first round of waitlist offers to about 45 students this week, Brenzel says
Caitlin Roman Staff Reporter Published Thursday, May 8, 2008
The number of students who have accepted their offers of admission to Yale for fall 2008 has remained at a level consistent with past years, despite dire predictions reflecting the uncertainty in the Ivy League admissions playing field this year.
So far, the University’s yield — the percentage of accepted students matriculating — stands at 68.9 percent, compared to 69.4 percent at a similar point in the admissions cycle last year, Dean of Admissions Jeff Brenzel said in an interview Thursday. Out of the 1,892 offers of admission made in the early action and regular admissions rounds, 1,286 students have committed to attending Yale in the fall, while an additional 25 students have postponed matriculation to fall 2009.
The admissions office will begin making waitlist offers this week, Brenzel said. In the first round, the office plans to make about 45 offers, with further rounds contingent on how many waitlisted students accept the offer, and on how other schools' wait list offers affect students who have already committed to attending Yale.
All waitlist activity should be complete by mid-June, Brenzel said.
Last year, the final yield was 70.6 percent after Yale made an additional 50 offers to waitlisted students. Yields for the past four years have hovered around 70 percent.
Yield is calculated by dividing the number of students who accept offers of admission for the coming academic year by the total number of offers, less the students who ask to postpone matriculation.
Earlier this year, high school guidance counselors and college admissions officers alike speculated that the elimination of early admissions programs at Harvard and Princeton universities, effective this admissions cycle, might encourage more students than usual to file applications at all three schools. The three schools might subsequently cross-admit more of the same students, they hypothesized, thereby depressing yield at some or all of the schools.
Additionally, sweeping reforms in the financial-aid programs at every Ivy League school except Princeton, as well as at Stanford University, have left experts in the dark about how applicants might react.
Yale's applications did skyrocket to a total of 22,813, an 18 percent increase over last year's total. Early applications this year rose a staggering 36 percent from last year.
But so far, yield has not fallen demonstrably. And the admissions and financial changes may not actually be responsible for any change in the yield, Brenzel suggested.
"I think the small decrease in this year's yield could be as much due to our increased competition for minority, low-income and science-oriented students as it is to early admissions and financial changes," he wrote in an e-mail.
This year, Yale posted an all-time-low acceptance rate of 8.3 percent, a figure that does not take into account any waitlist offers. Harvard accepted an Ivy League record 7.1 percent of its 27,462 applicants.
Brenzel said the admissions office will not release any detailed breakdowns on matriculating students — such as ethnicity, geographical distribution or income — until the full class is enrolled in the fall.
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Date: May 8th, 2008 4:51 PM Author: aqua diverse cruise ship partner If 50 waitlist offers are extended, this would mean a preliminary yield rate of something over 67%, prior to summer melt, etc. The yield rate was 69.2% for the Class of 2011. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=810958&forum_id=1#9756029) |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 5:45 PM Author: cerebral domesticated trailer park old irish cottage Subject: bad math the waitlist will only increase the yield by a point or so, just like last year. Also you cant call the yield 69.1 for 11 when yale calls it 70.6%. Thats silly.
It seems as though Yale made out very well, as there will be a record number of cross admits, and even I was predicting a reduction in yield of 2-3 points, not 0.5% as turned out to be the case. I think the Yale Princeton yield gap will widen and the Harvard Yale yield gap is going to narrow substantially. |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 6:13 PM Author: aqua diverse cruise ship partner Subject: Sorry to bust your bubble, but .... The 2007 YALE CDS form reports as follows:
19,323 applicants (including "phantom" apps) 1,911 admits 1,320 matriculants
Making the claimed admit rate 10% ... and the claimed yield rate 69.2%
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Your original prediction of a 2-3% drop in yield should be close to the mark. I think about 67% should be a good guess when all is said and done. The original 1892 admits projected a 69.7% yield.
And this despite a record 885 high-yield early admits ... enough to fill a staggering 67% of the class if they had all enrolled!
No wonder Levin was afraid to do away with SCEA! |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 10:02 PM Author: Fantasy-prone stock car the 50 from the waitlist will INCREASE the yield and DECREASE the admission rate. you have it backwards, yale will go over 70% yield. All of those 50 will be 100% yield so it has to go up, you're in reverse on this one.
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Date: May 8th, 2008 6:40 PM Author: Duck-like saffron scourge upon the earth associate The larger point is that Harvard's and Princeton's decisions to end their early application process had virtually no effect Yale's yield. The slight drop from 69.4% to 68.9% is not significant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=810958&forum_id=1#9756387) |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 7:00 PM Author: aqua diverse cruise ship partner Subject: I don't agree. That is not yet clear. Yale's decline in yield to a projected 67% or so when all is said and done might have been greater if it had not aped Harvard in raising financial aid. An indeterminate number were doubtless lured away from "lower" schools not offering such cushy aid packages.
At this point I'd hazard a guess that Yale's cross admit losses to Harvard were not much different from last year, despite Yale's record number of 885 early admits compared to a then-record 724 last year.
President Levin had craftily calculated that he could "steal" a few cross-applicants from Harvard and Princeton by "counter-programming" and hanging onto early admissions. Looks like it didn't prove the bonanza he counted on.
885 early admits would fill a staggering 67% of Yale's freshman class if they had all accepted. |