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Nation's College Guides Unanimous: Princeton is #1 they say
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Date: February 10th, 2010 12:43 AM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: Those in the business of evaluating schools pick Princeton Those taking a position primarily point to P'ton as the best !
A review of those making declarations:
1. "Untangling the Ivy League" (2008)- Gives Princeton its highest academic rating. One full notch above Yale and Harvard and certainly above all others in the Ivy League.
2. The Princeton Review (unaffiliated with Princeton University) - In its "College Campus Visit Guide" (7th edition) it refers to Princeton as, "truly gorgeous, offering the best undergraduate education in the country".
3. "Insider's Guide to the Colleges" (2008) - (An annual college guide publication written by Yale's Daily News Staff Editors). The publication lists Princeton as the top school for undergraduate attention/focus. Left out of the running was Yale itself.
http://www.amazon.com/Insiders-Guide-Colleges-2008-34th/dp/0312366892
4. "All American Colleges" (2008) - In ranking "Top Schools for Conservatives, Old-Fashioned Liberals, and People of Faith" the college guide book named Princeton as its choice school among the Ivies as well as other schools.
http://www.isi.org/books/bookdetail.aspx?id=f265b43c-5b48-4a57-b740-2fd310414b27
5. College Prowler (2008) - College Powler publishes individual college guides for each of the country's more well known schools. College Prowler gives Princeton the highest academic rating in the Ivy League and nation, Both Harvard and Yale are ranked below. The ranking is based largely on the opinions of those attending the schools being ranked.
http://www.collegeprowler.com/find/guides-by-ranking.aspx?section=Academics
6. "Choosing the Right College" 2008 - 2009 edition (an ISI Guide)
Subtitle: The Whole Truth about America's Top Schools
This newest college guide, touted as the nation' most comprehensive, promotes Princeton as the nation's best undergraduate university and "most exclusive club" among universities. Further referring to Princeton as "the undergraduate's Ivy" being "almost always rated the number one school in America".
Princeton is described as being "as close to the intellectual ideal for undergraduates as one can find in a top research university".
http://www.amazon.com/Choosing-Right-College-Americas-Schools/dp/0802845371
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Date: February 26th, 2010 1:12 AM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: perhaps those about to make a college choice perhaps those who want to know how others, including experts view the schools. Or, perhaps how employers view the schools.
Best Ivy League Schools By Starting Salary Potential
Princeton University $65,000
Dartmouth College $58,200
Harvard University $60,000
Yale University $56,000
University of Pennsylvania $60,400
Brown University $52,300
Cornell University $58,000
Columbia University $57,300
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Date: February 26th, 2010 6:23 AM Author: Sickened deep casino idea he suggested WHO FUCKING CARES |
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Date: February 26th, 2010 7:58 AM Author: Laughsome base Subject: It doesn't matter what the guide says. About 8 out of 10 students who get into both schools will pick Harvard over Princeton. Ditto for Yale, though the numbers are probably not as lopsided. The fact that you keep citing guides means you know nothing about any of the these schools.
Havard>>Yale>>>Princeton. Not a single guidebook will ever change that, espcially not one cited by you. This is how it's always been, and will probably continue to be. |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 7:07 AM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: LOL> That's why Yale protects itself with an early admit program Yes, yes. I forgot. According to you, we should forget what those in the business of evaluating colleges say and instead listen to your BS and lies. According to you:
We should forget why there is not a single, national ranking publication which, academically, places either Yale or Harvard ahead of Princeton. Not a single one!!
We should also forget that there is not a single national College Guide that places either ahead of Princeton.
We should also forget that the nation's College Administrators agree that, academically, Yale is one notch below both Princeton and Harvard.
We should forget that Yale's Student Editors have picked Princeton as the superior undergrad experience.
We should forget that Yale's own students rank their school, academically, below that of Princeton.
We should forget that the nation's employers value a Princeton undergrad degree substantially more than a Yale degree and slightly more than a Harvard degree.
We should forget that Princeton is the school cited for integrity by the Templeton Foundation, not Yale.
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1234603&mc=2&forum_id=1
PS. As far as your yield comment is concerned, we all know Yale lacks the intestinal fortitude to go head to head with Princeton and Harvard in attracting students. YALE CONTINUES TO RELY ON AN EARLY ACTION PROGRAM TO ATTRACT 50% OF ITS STUDENTS.
College Administrators are aware of this (hence Yale's lower peer assessment score) and newspapers, such as the Boston Globe, are catching on as well! See below:
excerpts from "The College Admissions Scam" (Boston Globe, Jan. 2010)
"But while these are overt ways to provide advantages for the wealthy, there are far more insidious and subtle methods of skewing the admissions process. Take early admissions. Early admissions account for 35 percent of the incoming class at Duke this year, 20 percent at Brown, 50 percent at Yale and 40 percent at Stanford. Under most programs, early admittees are obligated to attend that school should they be granted admission. But early admissions favor the wealthy - in part because they are able to forgo weighing options for financial aid."
PS. You should read "Untangling the Ivy League". Perhaps you will see why it is so easy to expose your BS. |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 11:07 AM Author: Awkward Pearly Persian Whorehouse The true quality of a college, at its core, is subjective. So sighting a bunch of ridiculous guides just makes you look dumb.
fyi. |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 12:29 PM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: That's usually said by those whose schools don't fare well But in truth, their opinions are worth far more than yours. They are professionals, in the business of independently evaluating colleges. Those Guides have withstood the test of time. They are among the most successful and, in total, read by many millions of students. That's why they're in successful businesses and you're here, as an older adult troll, in a teen chat room!
PS. What is impressive about these Guides is that they took a stand in declaring Princeton the best. Typically Guides try to remain neutral, but when the evidence is overwhelming they will, from time to time, commit themselves. It must have been difficult for the Yale student editors to recognize Princeton's undergraduate program in the way they did, so we must tip our cap to them for their courage. Too bad the Yale posters here lack the same intestinal fortitude. |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 1:01 PM Author: Awkward Pearly Persian Whorehouse or they just don't give a damn and are happy to be where they are. As, I think, should most kids who are fortunate enough to be in an ivy.
ps I think you mean "too bad" |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 6:50 PM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: As you may well know, Ivy applicants are incredibly competitive Few Ivy applicants don't give a dam. They are a competitive bunch by nature. Most Ivy applicants send out applications to multiple Ivies. Most such applicants dream of attending of attending one of the Big Three (with Princeton and harvard perennially picked as "Dream Schools"). But the Big 3 are not the same and neither are the lower Ivies. That is why the Guides and books like "Untangling the Ivy League" are thriving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1218066&forum_id=1#14253726) |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 8:15 PM Author: Laughsome base Interesting you bring up the concept of competition. I think you and I would both agree that those who get into HYP are in general incredibly intelligent and have done their due dilligence with respect to colleges they apply to.
Yet you consistently refuse to answer why Harvard is overwhelmingly the choice of cross admits, Yale comes in 2nd, and Princeton comes in a distant 3rd. Just admit it, Princeton is the junior partner in the big 3, |
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Date: March 4th, 2010 7:14 PM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: LOL. You are alone in that thinking As indicated above, the nation's EXPERTS disagree with you. Yale's students disagree with you. I even left out of the OP, the Fiske College Guide, which stated that Yale was in jeopardy of losing it's position in the Big 3 to Columbia. That statement appeared in Fiske prior to Yale's peer assessment downgrade by the nation's College Administrators. It seems that although operating separately, those who are in the business of running and/or evaluating schools are in sync when it comes to Yale. They continually position it WELL below Princeton as well as Harvard. It is also amazing what value the nation's employers place on the various degrees. Right out of the gate Yale students, on average, receive 16% less compensation that Princeton students.
PS. As you know, schools do not record cross admit numbers. The experts understand they are a function of marketing hype. You seem confused. Perhaps you should read "Untangling the Ivy League". It is a thorough review of the 8 Ivies. |
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Date: February 27th, 2010 8:18 PM Author: Laughsome base The early admit program doesn't address the issue of CROSS ADMITS, i.e. those who applied to and got into both schools, and thus have the freedom of choice of where to attend. They chose Harvard and Yale over Princeton. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1218066&forum_id=1#14254612) |
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Date: March 4th, 2010 7:26 PM Author: Sepia Menage Faggotry Subject: Yale is afraid to let go it the program. It is a crutch. Yale refuses to go toe to toe with Harvard and Princeton. Its significant marketing program may fool some high schoolers but not the nation's experts. I suggest you read "Untangling the Ivy League". It should help straighten you out. When the nation's experts are in total agreement that Yale is a notch behind Princeton and Harvard and falling, you should pause to wonder why you are alone! It's called "Untangling the Ivy League". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1218066&forum_id=1#14300099) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 10:21 PM Author: Glittery yarmulke Subject: From today's Daily Princetonian: http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/2010/08/16/26201/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1218066&forum_id=1#15805545) |
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Date: August 16th, 2010 11:54 PM Author: adulterous mustard address therapy Get a life... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1218066&forum_id=1#15806609) |
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Date: August 17th, 2010 12:09 AM Author: Sinister Hateful Nursing Home Subject: This is hilarious P'ton propaganda. This is called prestige whoring but at least this post concerns itself with college.
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