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Rankings of Hotel Management Schools
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Date: November 28th, 2007 11:22 PM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple Subject: Rankings of Hotel Management Schools These are the hotel school rankings:
1. Cornell
2. Conrad N. Hilton College of Hotel & Restaurant Managemenet at University of Houston
3. UNLV
4. Penn State
5. Purdue
6. NYU
7. Boston University
8. FIU
9. Jonhson and Whales (I dont think its worth the money)
Hotel schools are amazing, it really helps you. I think value for money and if you live in Texas go to UH, Hilton just donated another 8 million to get renovation so its going to be amazing. Cornell is at a different level, it will always be at the top because its an IVY and its rep but who wants to live in the super cold!!! come on. One great thing about Hilton is that they use the city as a labotory, like NYU and BU you do!
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Date: November 29th, 2007 1:29 PM Author: fragrant maroon pozpig crackhouse Subject: go to houston.... fastest growing city in the US and its still dirt cheap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8951872) |
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Date: November 29th, 2007 7:44 PM Author: vivacious magical state halford I room with a hotel manager who went to UH. Doesn't really seem like an ideal job (pay wise). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8953455) |
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Date: November 29th, 2007 8:53 PM Author: Comical Startled Orchestra Pit Of course not, but its an easy and brainless job where you get to feel important every so often bc you will meet some high powered people (but never become one of them). Did Conrad Hilton or Donald Trump or any of those guys have a Hotel Management degree? OF COURSE NOT. Its for middle management types. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8953811) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 2:17 AM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple At the time of donald and conrad they barely had hotel schools! The reason Conrad started this school is so that people can come and become succesfull in the industry and not just have a luck on there side and a good idea! It gives them the fundamental education pertaining to hotels. Think about it! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8955508) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 2:21 AM Author: White Sanctuary Jew How is Hotel School even higher education? Do you learn any math or science or any real academic subjects? Or just mindless bullshit like managing someone else's hotels? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8955526) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 11:30 AM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple Yoyu are required to take 2 maths, 2 sciences plus economics and stats. PLus Liberal arts classes. So yeah its a combination in any program be with Cornell, NYU or UH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8956235) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 12:32 PM Author: White Sanctuary Jew So you can take something like "Applied Chemistry" as a sci class?
God that program sounds so fucking dumb. Hotel school: for retards who think that working for rich hotel chains somehow makes them rich. Reality: No one who is someone in the hotel biz has a degree in Hotel Management. They are businesspeople who have real educations and possibly an MBA. |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 2:25 PM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple how you define a real education one may ask? Hotel degrees are just like business degrees but they are just more specialized in the hospitality field. Its the same thing as business. At the end of the day a hotel is a business. CEO of Lowes Hotel has a hotel degrees. The President of MGM Grand Hotel and Bellagio have hotels degrees from UNLV, The Guy who started HVS consulting (which is huge) as a hotel degree. Many people become succesfull in the hotel industry. You need to take 2 sciences, that can be Bio, Chem, Physics, whatever you wish! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8956924) |
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Date: November 29th, 2007 11:51 PM Author: house-broken impertinent point knife Most Cornell Hotel Kids inherit their parents hotels, restaurants, nightclubs or work in banking or consulting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8954845) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 1:25 PM Author: Aquamarine striped hyena Yes, banking or consulting. They end up with a very good in-depth education on a specific business sector. Grads are very employable.
A old guy who went to Cornell during the depression said the only kids getting jobs at graduation then were the Hotel School grads. |
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Date: December 1st, 2007 1:04 PM Author: exhilarant duck-like dog poop dilemma Source?
8 MM ain't nothing, son: http://publicaffairs.unlv.edu/news-PublicAffairs.html?id=502
The most credited answer is:
1. Cornell 2. UNLV 3. Penn State 4. Purdue 5. Everyone else (UH, TTU, NYU, USM, etc.)
(In full disclosure, I have the MS from the hotel college at UNLV)
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Date: December 1st, 2007 7:33 PM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple I dont agree, Hilton is much better than Penn and Purdue. Dont tell me you rather go to UNLV than NYU! NYU is so much harder to get into and its alumni is amazing! You need to look at a school as a whole. I think UNLV is good but so is the Hilton College. Nothing will top Cornell though its an ivy and its alumni is too strong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8961908) |
Date: November 29th, 2007 5:10 PM Author: White Sanctuary Jew LOL Hotel Schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8952819) |
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Date: November 29th, 2007 9:10 PM Author: stirring piazza why the hell did you put Ivy in all caps, you stupid faggot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8953897) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 2:18 AM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple have a dilemma and thought I would ask you for your insight. I am currently a Junior at the Conrad N. Hilton College of Hotel and Restaurant Management at the University of Houston. (www.hrm.uh.edu)I think my college is great but overall I think UH has a lot to work on. I
applied for transfer admission to New York University and Boston University and I was accepted into Boston and still waiting on NYU. Currently I spend about $10,000 a year at the University of Houston. Boston or New
York because they are private and highly ranked will cost me about $35,000++ each year. Do you think it is worth spending the extra money
on Boston or New York? My major is going to be the same at both schools. The average salary from my major is about $42K it doesnt matter if u went to BU or UH, because thats how much the "management programs" pay at like Starwood, Hilton, Marriott. Some even less, MGM Mirage is like $30K for there MAP management program.
I feel our generation is fixated on
college rankings, it becomes apart of who you are. Although my college is ranked high in the hospitality realm, the
overall picture still remains that the University of Houston is still a fourth tier school. Boston University is a highly ranked and prestigious school however, their hospitality program still lags
behind the Hilton College. This is quite the conundrum! I would appreciate any light you can shed on this situation.
- Hilton Confused!
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Date: November 30th, 2007 2:39 AM Author: vivacious magical state halford 42k? yikes, how many years does this last? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8955599) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 11:28 AM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple 2 years! But for the rest of ur life you can say u went to a prestigious school like Boston! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8956231) |
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Date: November 30th, 2007 1:30 PM Author: Aquamarine striped hyena No one cares where you went to school after your first job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8956682) |
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Date: December 1st, 2007 1:05 PM Author: anal vibrant lay associate What a waste of an education. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8960248) |
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Date: December 1st, 2007 7:31 PM Author: Smoky Gaming Laptop Temple how is it a waste. Whats the point graduating from UNLV or UH there is no respect that goes with it. At the end of the day US news gives it no respect (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#8961898) |
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Date: December 1st, 2007 8:13 PM Author: Pale provocative plaza learning about hotels is a waste for anyone with a good intellect.
your IQ is probably below 110, so its sufficiently challenging for you. HTH. |
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Date: December 10th, 2007 8:54 PM Author: vivacious magical state halford Wow.
Just found out my roommate makes $9.80 an hour now, and is getting a substantial raise to $12.25 this February LOL. I imagine they get bonuses of some sort, but thats still pretty fucking ridiculous, huh? Keep in mind that this guy works for Marriott.! |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 1:33 AM Author: tan area People don't seem to realize that a degree in hospitality administration is really just a business degree that uses the service industry as a focus. You learn the same accounting, finance, marketing, etc. as you would in a business program. It really doesn't restrict you to working only in hotels. I have a degree in hospitality, immediately went to work for a consulting firm doing finance because that was my specialty within the hotel area. I decided to branch out a bit and my degree didn't hinder me at all. Sure, those who stay behind the front desk or stick with rooms operations will keep the low paying jobs. You just need to use your degree smartly. I chose finance because I know that I can be very successful in it, even if I leave hotels for good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9715145) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 12:31 PM Author: Spectacular Pocket Flask Old thread bump ftw.
Anyway, I agree with you about it being a business degree essentially, just with a focus. I got a hotel degree from Cornell and went to work immediately at a business that had absolutely nothing to do with hotels (and I'm making more than most of my classmates are/will be because of this). |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 12:45 PM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den There's the jealousy/denial factor involved here. people who are under the impression that either going to law school or majoring in econ are the only two paths to lucrative careers just hate it when they're reminded that other people can make it there, too, and often just as easily as the econ/law people can. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9716670) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 12:54 PM Author: tan area Exactly. They assume that they are on some intellectual high ground with their purely academic degrees, and then they assume that us business or hospitality majors don't know a thing of academics or intellect. Couldn't be more false. I did a philosophy minor, took many high level "academic" electives in areas such as english, poli sci and history, and did just as well in those courses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9716721) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 1:30 PM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den I wouldn't even call econ at the undergraduate level "purely academic." most of the econ majors I knew in undergrad (which comprised about 60% of the overall student body--no joke) were preprofessional hacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9716888) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 11:06 PM Author: at-the-ready principal's office therapy my roommate graduated with a cornell hotel degree. He's one of the top bellhops at the Four Seasons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9719765) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 11:21 PM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den never underestimate the power of BIGBELLHOPPING (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9719854) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:06 AM Author: tan area Its a shame he didn't use that degree to its potential. Its all about the contacts you make. My finance professor knew every hotel controller and every consulting company CFO in Boston. He gave me some great contacts and I immediately found a solid job. Like I said, the only people who have trouble are those who stay only in hotel rooms operations, in positions such as bellhops or front desk. It really takes alot of work to move up in that area. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720539) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:14 AM Author: at-the-ready principal's office therapy dude, top bellhop at the Four Seasons is pretty prestigious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720576) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:18 AM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den great tips, but i buy into the notion that you can do a hell of a lot more than that with a Cornell hospitality degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720602) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:20 AM Author: at-the-ready principal's office therapy he also made my bed once and it was PERFECT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720618) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:22 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor Did he make your pink towels into a Elephant? That'd be nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720633) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:25 AM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den nice. you're growing on me, Bestwestern. Are you seriously not Ltorivia? if you are, no hard feelings. I just really want to know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720661) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:29 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor nope, i'm not her. she stopped posting some time ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720690) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:33 AM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den Oh...well if that's the truth, then I really apologize for my behavior toward you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720729) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:38 AM Author: beady-eyed parlor IF you really went to NU, which is closer to the water, Hinman or Allison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720765) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:40 AM Author: Primrose wonderful clown den Hinman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9720775) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 3:13 AM Author: soul-stirring deranged national this once again proves the ascendancy of the ivy league. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=723295&forum_id=1#9721137) |