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Date: April 30th, 2008 6:22 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim Subject: Forbes Magazine enters the fray with a new formula How to Choose a College Richard Vedder 05.19.08, 12:00 AM ET
The most popular rankings use the wrong measures.
This time of year, as they make the momentous decision of where to go to college, high school seniors are turning to popular rankings compiled by magazines like U.S. News & World Report. There are competing scorecards from the Princeton Review and Kiplinger's, but U.S. News' product is way out in front in visibility; in addition to its usual circulation of 2 million, it sells 9,000 newsstand copies and some 20,000 of its college guide book.
U.S. News evaluates educational quality by looking inside colleges at measures like faculty-student ratios, admissions selectivity, financial resources and alumni giving.
I think the U.S. News rankings ought to get a D. They're roughly equivalent to evaluating a chef based on the ingredients he or she uses. At the Center for College Affordability & Productivity, a two-year-old research organization in Washington, D.C. with a free-market bent, we evaluate colleges on results. Do students like their courses? How successful are they once they graduate? In short, we review the meal.
Our measures begin with student evaluations posted on Ratemyprofessors.com, a nine-year-old site with 6.8 million student-generated evaluations. We look at college graduation rates (as does U.S. News). We also calculate the percent of students winning awards like Rhodes Scholarships and undergraduate Fulbright travel grants. For vocational success we turn to Who's Who in America. Though imperfect, it is the only comprehensive listing of professional achievement that includes undergraduate affiliations. (Our complete listing of more than 200 schools can be viewed at Forbes.com.)
The top CCAP schools rank near the top of the U.S. News list, as the accompanying table shows. But just below the top there are some surprises. Duke, MIT and the University of Pennsylvania make the top 10 list at U.S. News but not at CCAP. Duke students don't rate their professors high enough. At the University of Pennsylvania not enough grads made it into Who's Who. Brown and Northwestern, both ranked 14 by U.S. News, and Dartmouth College, ranked 11 by U.S. News, all make it onto our top 10. The University of Alabama, which got great reviews from students, came in a number 7 on our national public university ranking; it's at position 42 on U.S. News' list.
The biggest surprises come in our list of liberal arts colleges. Wabash doesn't make the top 50 on U.S. News' list but ranks tenth with CCAP because of the awards its students won and its showing in Who's Who. Several other schools not high on the U.S. News list, including Whitman, Washington & Lee, Barnard and the U.S. Military Academy (a.k.a. West Point), are in our top 10. A number of excellent smaller liberal arts colleges do poorly on the U.S. News list but fare very well on the CCAP list, including Reed (twelfth) and Knox (sixteenth). Like other consumers, students want satisfaction and results, which is what CCAP measures.
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0519/030.html |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 6:27 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim Subject: The Top 10 rankings: National Universities, Publics and LACs: http://images.forbes.com/media/magazines/forbes/2008/0519/forbes_0519_p030_f1.gif (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9712910) |
Date: April 30th, 2008 6:54 PM Author: ungodly curious stain everyone knows that anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713035) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 6:56 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim Wow! And the owner of Forbes is a PRINCETON guy! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713043) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 9:46 PM Author: Shimmering tanning salon Subject: He knows how to make money He can thank his excellent education (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713847) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 3:29 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim "thanks, dad!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9722688) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 8:24 PM Author: Narrow-minded Theater Stage Harvard aside, those rankings suck just as much as the rest of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713403) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 8:27 PM Author: ungodly curious stain that's what I'm saying. Number one is never in dispute. The rest is just rabble. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713422) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 8:34 PM Author: Narrow-minded Theater Stage Actually, I'd prefer to DO THE WUSTL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713448) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:25 PM Author: ungodly curious stain not surprised (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719580) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 9:01 PM Author: Submissive drab antidepressant drug trust fund lol, brown over stanford.
real legit. |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 9:40 PM Author: Aromatic Hyperventilating Double Fault The info they are using is based on such a trashy source. How can you value a professor based on such unreliable data. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713793) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 9:45 PM Author: Shimmering tanning salon Subject: LOL The inmates get to rate the asylum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713836) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 10:01 PM Author: Flatulent Temple They base thier rank off of WHos who? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713934) |
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Date: April 30th, 2008 10:03 PM Author: Shimmering tanning salon Subject: desperate times leads to clinging to straws (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9713953) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:21 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim Subject: The complete 2008 Forbes ranking of National Universities: http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0519/030_2.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719568) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:45 PM Author: salmon sanctuary Boston College sure beats 2 Ivies, MIT, and Duke.
Oh and I wonder what #13 Southern Methodist University's cross-admit yield is with # 17 MIT. I'm gonna guess that in the entire history of admissions with SMU and MIT, that about 5 people applied to both schools and that if any of these 5 got into MIT (perhaps 1 or 2), that the cross-yield would be 100% of those 1 or 2 kids going to MIT and then killing off their parents for making them apply to such a shitty safety as Southern Methodist University. |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:51 PM Author: ungodly curious stain unless you like chicks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719695) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:56 PM Author: wonderful claret theatre you underestimate southern yokels who get into MIT and SMU and choose the latter because they don't want to be that far from home and figure they can get a decent job in houston with that SMU pedigree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719721) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:24 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim Subject: Complete 2008 Forbes ranking of Liberal Arts colleges: http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0519/030_3.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719576) |
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Date: May 1st, 2008 10:26 PM Author: Yellow Heady Goyim Subject: Complete 2008 Forbes rankings of Public Universities: http://www.forbes.com/opinions/forbes/2008/0519/030_4.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9719584) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 1:33 AM Author: Underhanded parlor HAH DMD, there ya go.. a report with Harvard in First place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9720738) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 11:53 AM Author: nighttime voyeur pisswyrm Interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9721757) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 12:32 PM Author: Mint Senate Subject: oh no! I should've went to SMU! Get outta here! BC over Penn? SMU? Yeah its big in Texas but c'mon, over Rice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9721913) |
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Date: May 2nd, 2008 7:22 PM Author: deep menage you;re a goddamn idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=806885&forum_id=1#9723837) |