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Date: May 5th, 2008 9:25 PM Author: Maniacal gas station legend Subject: Please post Elite Yield Data Here Have there been any reports yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9739600) |
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Date: May 5th, 2008 9:48 PM Author: comical indecent theater Subject: Too early
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=795492&mc=18&forum_id=1#9666625 |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 11:02 AM Author: comical indecent theater I hear the musical chairs waitlist action has started; next week should see the beginning of the "sharp elbows" period, when a few candidates counted in the "win" column defect as waitlist admits elsewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9748057) |
Date: May 7th, 2008 3:07 PM Author: Maniacal gas station legend Subject: Has H started admitting off its waitlist yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9749283) |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 3:14 PM Author: Arousing sanctuary im sure everyone has started moving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9749306) |
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Date: May 7th, 2008 3:28 PM Author: comical indecent theater We should get a preliminary snapshot of the yield picture either today or tomorrow. I forsee little change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9749357) |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 4:40 PM Author: Chestnut garrison yale 68.9%.
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/24776 |
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Date: May 8th, 2008 9:42 PM Author: comical indecent theater More like 67%, since they have conceded already there will be 50+ waitlist admits.
"The Yale dean of admissions, Jeffrey Brenzel, said there would be about 45 wait-list offers this week and probably another round later this month." - NY Times. May 9. |
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Date: May 9th, 2008 6:51 AM Author: effete chapel Subject: WRONG yield goes up with waitlist action, not down,
I think you are having alot of trouble, as always, with the simple math. Here's a simplification:
Let's say there are 4 apps to a school for two spots. The school accepts 2 giving a 50% admission rate, but only 1 accepts, giving a 50% yield. They deftly go to the waitlist (to assure 100% yield) and accept a third, and that person accepts. The admission rate suffers, going up from 50 to 75%, but the yield jumps as well, going from 50% to 67%(2/3).
You should also note that unlike Yale's numbers, Harvard's yield included the projected waitlist action so its actual yield is closer to 74%. The unrealistically high yield projection (85%) in the fall was a hedge bet by Fitzimmons, causing them to artificially lower the admission rate while simultaneously going to heavy waitlist use. They get the initial press for both admission rate (which is going to climb substantially) record and now an unchanged yield (by already factoring in the waitlist. How disingenuous.
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Date: May 9th, 2008 8:27 AM Author: comical indecent theater Harvard doesn't need "press" when it comes to yield rate, where it has topped all elites by a wide margin for generations.
As for the Yale numbers, you keep forgetting that the "final" yield and the preliminary "press release" yield contemplate an identical class size. Thus, when you admit more people to achieve the targeted class size, the yield rate goes DOWN... comprende?
Thus, in the end, they will be admitting 60 or so more people than currently to "yield" the same 1,320 matriculants. THAT is why the final yield will be lower than the "press release" yield rather than higher - despite the 100% yield on waitlist admits. |
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Date: May 9th, 2008 10:18 PM Author: Geriatric Misanthropic Brunch Apparently Harvard does need the press since it just became the master of spin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9761871) |
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Date: May 11th, 2008 7:55 PM Author: wonderful church nibblets Subject: any numbers like these for 2008? NYCFan once provided these numbers for 2006. Anything similar for 2008?
2006 RD yield at Ivies + Stanford Harvard: 71.3% Stanford: 61.5% Princeton: 58.7% Yale: 51.5% Brown: 48.8% Columbia: 45.2% Penn: 43% Dartmouth 42% Cornell: 39.3% |
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Date: May 11th, 2008 8:31 PM Author: comical indecent theater Too early. And those are not last year's numbers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9768458) |
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Date: May 11th, 2008 8:52 PM Author: Maniacal gas station legend Subject: your 06 numbers (or Fan's) were wrong for Y and P y has consistently had a higher rd yield than P over the last several years, unless by 06 you meant class of 2006, which was during the hargadon era when P would boost its yield by staying away from h and y caliber students (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9768566) |
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Date: May 13th, 2008 9:06 AM Author: comical indecent theater (he reversed them) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9776648) |
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Date: May 11th, 2008 9:10 PM Author: histrionic shaky genital piercing Penn's RD yield was 50.4% in 2007, and was similar to that in 2006. It was not 43%. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=809387&forum_id=1#9768661) |
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Date: May 11th, 2008 9:48 PM Author: wonderful church nibblets these numbers were from a post from NYCFan, September 12th, 2004 9:46 PM. I only cut and pasted them as an example.
I am just curious to see hard data on how HP abandoning Early Decision and all the revised financial aid packages will affect the yield picture for the entire Ivy Group. This thread is focusing on HYP.
As another point, you folks are saying Yale and Princeton have changed places in just a few years? And Penn has increased its yield from 43% to 50% in the same amount of time, and in so doing passed Brown and Columbia? Is Harvard's complete dominance the only constant in this league? |
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Date: May 12th, 2008 8:29 AM Author: comical indecent theater Subject: Here are the overall and RD yield numbers for the Class of 2011 YIELD: Harvard: 78.7%, 70% RD est; Yale; 69.1%, 59% RD est; Princeton: 67.7% est, 53.7% RD est; Columbia: 59.1% , 44.3% RD est; Dartmouth: 51.3% est, 40% RD est; Cornell: 47%, 36.4% RD est; Penn: 66.5% est, 51% RD est; Brown: 57.6%, 48.4% RD est ; Stanford: 69.8% , 57.7% RD est; Duke: 41% est, 35.7 RD est; MIT: 68.8% est |