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Working with two boomer "programmers" who are retarded
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman They don’t understand slack, Jira or git. Just terrible style. I’m constantly rewriting their shit. Always asking questions and need to have their hands held through everything. They’re pathetic compared to the gen x and millennials I’ve worked with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35348757) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 7:46 AM Author: supple talking french chef heaven Git is fine and programmers should know how to use it, and Slack is just a chat app. Jira is terrible and its existence shows how low programmers have fallen. It used to be an R&D job and now it's ticket work. Fuck everything about that.
Jira is a machine that takes in keystrokes and spits out politics. Boomer programmers avoid it because they're smart. |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 5:11 AM Author: White native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35630039) |
Date: February 7th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Exciting organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35348778) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: misanthropic orange school cafeteria lolwut. you lost me on the last two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349139) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: swashbuckling garrison you mean git is like svn? that's the closest acronym i can think of. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349210) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:28 PM Author: Thriller Nighttime Orchestra Pit Genital Piercing No he's talking about CVS which is the father of SVN. OP lost me on the JIRA = Salesforce thing. They are two completely different things (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349408) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Aromatic out-of-control house associate git is terrible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35348781) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: Exciting organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35348793) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: misanthropic orange school cafeteria it is definitely over-engineering. most people don't need git. subversion is good enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349143) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:56 PM Author: pearl senate What is this flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349173) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: White native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349212) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: misanthropic orange school cafeteria let me guess, you prefer vi? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349233) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:06 PM Author: pearl senate Has nothing to do with vi. Any serious dev project is going to need git. Git is integrated with all version control platforms (Gitlab, Bitbucket, etc) and is default on Unix-like systems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349250) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: White native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349268) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:35 PM Author: Thriller Nighttime Orchestra Pit Genital Piercing Stop you fanboy fuck. "Any serious dev project is going to need git" - FALSE. Google doesn't use Git on their main codebase. I've worked at more companies that use SVN over Git. I've found that Git fanboys hate on subversion because they cannot figure out how to properly branch/merge in SVN. I actually prefer branching / merging in SVN even though it took me a few years to actually get comfortable merging in large production environments. If I was working on an open source project with 50+ developers all around the world I obviously choose Git, but in most corportate settings you have teams of at most 10 working on a particular codebase at a given time (you may have many teams working on many codebases) but SVN is just fine in that regard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349448) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:52 PM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman The one time I worked on a 50+ dev team we used SVN. got every other time lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35350044) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 10:04 PM Author: Sadistic talented sneaky criminal tank google doesn't use git because they have literally billions of lines of code in the same place and created their own version control system specifically to handle it
I cannot think of a single thing subversion does better than git |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 10:12 PM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman Yeah a friend at IBM says they use an iN-house vc called RTC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35359627) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:30 PM Author: Thriller Nighttime Orchestra Pit Genital Piercing Vi is a text editor you fraud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349417) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: misanthropic orange school cafeteria yeah. the pretentious douches that prefer git also prefer vi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349420) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: Exciting organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35350120) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 1:02 AM Author: White native If you frequently touch your mouse while editing text you are a homosexual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35353100) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Exciting organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35586885) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35586897) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 5:13 AM Author: White native It's a comfort thing, not about saving time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35630041) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 3:28 AM Author: Aromatic out-of-control house associate serious programmers use a proper IDE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35353460) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: White native this, but with vim bindings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35354964) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Razzle effete hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349202) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: aquamarine preventive strike casino honestly every time i meet a boomer who can touch type, i'm genuinely impressed
any boomer who can operate a computer at a basic level is easily top 1% in their demographic for understanding technology |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: spruce nibblets Boomer programmer? How fucking old are they? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35348792) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: Exciting organic girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349105) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: spruce nibblets I just assume they cut and ran with their boomer pensions by now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349216) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 5:32 AM Author: balding karate crackhouse Faggot boomers never leave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35353535) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 7:18 AM Author: mustard chapel Thomas Harris (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35353611) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 4:58 PM Author: bateful newt have you considered they might be "chill" letting some little bitch do all that stuff for them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349192) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman Whoa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35350048) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: Thriller Nighttime Orchestra Pit Genital Piercing Subject: srsly I have two boomer programmers that work under me. They work on an ancient mainframe we are in the process of phasing out. Without generalizing, they are no where near the level of the millenial's. It's not the case of a different toolset either. I had a junior developer write a restful service client in RPG (their language) because they couldn't comprehend JSON / REST. He never touched the language before and wrote a very well designed client. Their code constantly violates all SOLID principles.
It's not just them either. Same company I worked under a software engineering manager who was supposedly a genius developer. He is a smart/clever/witty guy but his software engineering prowess was way overstated. He constantly had these insane architectural ideas that involved enterprise message buses / services / etc that completely misused these integration's. He architected an enterprise message bus that was suppose to sit between our systems and our fax/sms/smtp servers as well as system to system communication. Except our archaic mainframe didnt support AMQP (the protocol the queues are based on). So he had them write to a mysql table, then wrote a program that polled that table for new entries, then placed messages on a queue which then is consumed and calls a web service - which is so much worse than simply calling the service without all the bullshit in between.
The issue with boomers is that they are still stuck in the "its just logic" mindset. They always state that they don't know X (insert new platform/language/framework/pattern) but in the end it's all just 0's and 1's which they know "very well". Except this not really true anymore. Programming has become so abstracted that it rarely requires clever little logic hacks / low level computer sciency concepts / etc. Programming now is much more like traditional engineering/architecting where you have these various components / sets of components and you need to piece them together using best practices (SOLID/GRASP/DRY/SoC/etc). It's all about taking a complex business problem, frame it in a system's "lens", abstracting all the moving parts, piecing them together with the aforementioned principles, etc. Equally as important is the toolset around your project (build automation, containerization, deployment automation, regression / systems / unit / security testing, etc), your PMO and SDLC, the maturity of your release cycles, etc. |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 5:37 PM Author: bateful newt hmm sounds 180 to be a highly paid boomer programmer who says stuff in meetings like "in the end it's all just zeros and ones". wonder if a millenial could get away with this shtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35349459) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Razzle effete hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35350062) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35350064) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman Wish I worked with you. Agree with all of this. They don’t learn frameworks or anything new at all really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35350036) |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: pungent mischievous twinkling uncleanness tbh every single person in this story sounds like a shitty programmer
edit: i will at least give the millennials credit over the boomers for managing to get the job done without a ton of unnecessary bullshit, but i had to wince at the "couldn't comprehend JSON / REST" |
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Date: February 7th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: Massive principal's office really elaborate well executed flame to convince XO lolyers that programming == engineering
As a real EE engineer I have to say LOL NO
OMG boomers dont know how to set up the fax API to work with the mainframe subsystems. GTFO here with this code monkey bullshit
sorry about your tiny pink CS degree |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 7:06 AM Author: Violent comical pit soooo CR
last paragraph is very true, explains why people coming out of bootcamps can be very successful |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 4:08 AM Author: stubborn space what the fuck are all you vocational computer geeks doing on a lolyer bort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35353509) |
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Date: February 8th, 2018 10:26 AM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman You do realize there’s a sub forum for programmers, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35354530) |
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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: pungent mischievous twinkling uncleanness the thread still get cross-posted to the main bort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35364733) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman Last day of the contract and they managed to break the build at midnight. I’m not fixing it. Fuck them all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35586871) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:18 AM Author: buff startling partner locus They can't understand simple tools? Wtf? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35586903) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Useless vengeful patrolman they are incompetent and retarded. Thinking about how much they've managed to earn over their 20+ year careers without being able to do basic shit on their own is baffling. Luckily, this is my last day and I'm going somewhere I'll be building this department from scratch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35586908) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: buff startling partner locus Nice. Good luck, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3886222&forum_id=1024#35586916) |