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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
motley bearded chapel
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
underhanded chrome station
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
snowy vibrant hospital milk
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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  05/29/25
cq
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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  07/01/25
really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar s...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: motley bearded chapel

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: underhanded chrome station

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: underhanded chrome station

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: underhanded chrome station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49172980)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49421817)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49421862)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:57 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49421881)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49422254)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: trip canary senate death wish

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: snowy vibrant hospital milk

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: trip canary senate death wish

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: snowy vibrant hospital milk

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: trip canary senate death wish

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: curious fuchsia organic girlfriend indian lodge

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Maroon startled set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: vivacious crackhouse fanboi

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Passionate stubborn legend

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy insane telephone sex offender

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: curious fuchsia organic girlfriend indian lodge

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Topaz liquid oxygen

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: seedy floppy corn cake

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: disrespectful opaque lodge factory reset button

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49105022)



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Date: November 11th, 2025 8:49 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It worked out really well for most folks. Asia had similar systems in place for thousands of years and they were stable societies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2!#49421865)