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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Light School Dopamine
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Amber stimulating potus
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Amber stimulating potus
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Thriller office
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
sexy french chef lay
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Hairraiser Base Puppy
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Abusive Turdskin Menage
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Abusive Turdskin Menage
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Abusive Turdskin Menage
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Copper marketing idea
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
cowardly range
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
vigorous business firm psychic
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Light School Dopamine
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Aquamarine toaster
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Electric bipolar den
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Sickened galvanic quadroon private investor
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Light School Dopamine
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
razzle-dazzle sticky old irish cottage
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/26/25
...
Sooty Dog Poop
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Dead razzle background story plaza
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
aphrodisiac tan temple
  06/26/25
...
beta underhanded jap
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Submissive Ape
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
talented ruddy philosopher-king
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Confused Clown
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
talented ruddy philosopher-king
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Hairraiser Base Puppy
  06/27/25
...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Marvelous milky messiness
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
talented ruddy philosopher-king
  06/27/25
...
blathering boltzmann
  06/27/25
...
Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Confused Clown
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Hairraiser Base Puppy
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
dull casino coldplay fan
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Dead razzle background story plaza
  06/27/25
...
Odious brass dysfunction house
  06/27/25
...
zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Light School Dopamine

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Amber stimulating potus

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Amber stimulating potus

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Thriller office

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: sexy french chef lay

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Hairraiser Base Puppy

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Abusive Turdskin Menage

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Abusive Turdskin Menage

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Abusive Turdskin Menage

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Copper marketing idea

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: cowardly range

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: vigorous business firm psychic

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Light School Dopamine

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Aquamarine toaster

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Electric bipolar den

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Sickened galvanic quadroon private investor

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Light School Dopamine

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle sticky old irish cottage

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Sooty Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Dead razzle background story plaza

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: aphrodisiac tan temple

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: beta underhanded jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Submissive Ape

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: talented ruddy philosopher-king

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Confused Clown

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: talented ruddy philosopher-king

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Hairraiser Base Puppy

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Marvelous milky messiness

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: talented ruddy philosopher-king

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: blathering boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Hyperactive ungodly striped hyena



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Confused Clown

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Hairraiser Base Puppy

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: dull casino coldplay fan

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Dead razzle background story plaza

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: Odious brass dysfunction house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: zippy factory reset button faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2],#49053817)