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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:07 PM Author: mind-boggling poppy theater place of business anyone know anyone who has done this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893269) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:07 PM Author: exciting jet-lagged office persian women with kids they get marginalized but never fired |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:08 PM Author: mind-boggling poppy theater place of business what about male associates with health issues? same issue? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893273) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:09 PM Author: exciting jet-lagged office persian never seen a male associate go PT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893276) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:09 PM Author: mind-boggling poppy theater place of business so u think it would be looked down upon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893282) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:11 PM Author: exciting jet-lagged office persian yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893287) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:14 PM Author: mind-boggling poppy theater place of business by the firm as a whole (i.e. you could get fired more easily) or by random associates and partners who think it's weird? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893299) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:20 PM Author: exciting jet-lagged office persian I think everyone however, the associates would actually be cooler than the partners. From what I have seen of female PT associates, partners and associates generally don't want to be on the same team as them as they are not going to be able to give 110%/killself on deals or cases. this leads to them getting less than optimal assignments. That being said, people are largely sympathetic to them (with the exception of some asshats), because they are doing it for their kids. |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 1:39 PM Author: heady brethren principal's office of course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893852) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:10 PM Author: Self-absorbed state I have seen a few male senior associates/of counsel do four days a week, I think for family reasons in each case. I have no idea how that is balanced with deals. Maybe it's in reality more like four days plus one telecommuting plus a slightly lower billables expectation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893284) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:14 PM Author: mind-boggling poppy theater place of business are they looked down upon at all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893301) |
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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:15 PM Author: Self-absorbed state I think they are senior enough that it does not matter much. But I doubt any will make partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893307) |
Date: June 5th, 2012 2:33 PM Author: Dun locale Does anyone know the going salary for part-time lawyers at big firms? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830157) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:34 PM Author: Maize Appetizing Rehab Indirect Expression anyone do this in corporate, specifically m&a, securities or finance, where deals require 24/7 attention during peak times?
how is it possible? |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:00 PM Author: bronze location background story It's really tough. I know one transactional attorney who did this and she still works 24/7 when required, she just tries to take more time off between deals. But I spoke to her a couple weeks ago and it isn't working out like she hoped. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830415) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:58 PM Author: bronze location background story This never works in the long run. You end up with 80% of the pay and 100% of the hours. Also, it doesn't work for the same reason that big law is tough on everyone -- there is no set schedule. How can you commit to picking your kids up at 3 pm on certain days and having them in the afternoon if you are in trial or a deposition? What if you have a deal closing and there is a 5 pm conference call or you need to go to the printer? Biglaw is the opposite of what is needed in order to make a part-time system work. There are probably rare exceptions (some counsel come to mind), but overall it's a tough deal to work out.
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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:59 PM Author: Dun locale Exception: Trusts & Estates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830403) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:01 PM Author: bronze location background story I could see that. Though not too many big firms have that practice any more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830421) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:02 PM Author: Dun locale Not to be argumentative, but almost every large general practice firm in NYC that I can think of has a T&E group. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830435) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:15 PM Author: bronze location background story Really? Huh. I've worked at a couple west coast-based firms and there isn't anyone with that practice. My bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830530) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 4:32 PM Author: Charcoal Startling Lettuce Prole Wrong. And T&E is a marginal practice group at those big firms that do have it (WFG, Debevoise, Schulte, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830987) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 5:44 PM Author: Dun locale It may be marginal, but they offer it to be full service to clients. It's precisely because it is marginal that allows someone to easily work part time.
The people I know in T&E working full time basically work part time compared to most other biglawyers i know. |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:11 PM Author: Greedy alcoholic house Yes, I know a number of senior associates/of counsel males that do this for family reasons. Unless you let the firm bitch you around, there is no problem with this provided that you add value with your work. If you have been kept around long enough to be senior associate/of counsel, you probably add value. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830499) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:14 PM Author: Swashbuckling Very Tactful Dopamine hey earl's brother shut the fuck up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830518) |
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Date: June 5th, 2012 6:13 PM Author: stirring clear love of her life really PT or just have to be there at 4 every day to pick the kids up from school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20831621) |