idea: we set up youthanize.org as an anonymous blog and
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:47 AM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
we'll get a poster or two to act as admins. people here can submit articles (run it on wordpress and you can just create a user for everyone who wants to contribute), articles get approved by the admins and published.
anonymous emails to political blogs and news sites. we got some smart, well-written motherfuckers on here that could contribute very high quality content. dollars to donuts it gets picked up, especially if it has strong rhetoric like i'm sure it will. and there's a way to make it all anonymous (short of a subpoena).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210257) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 2:48 AM Author: lavender impressive abode
honestly bro?
this is a good idea
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210265) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:03 AM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
these guys do offshore hosting too:
http://www.katzglobal.com/hosting/hosting.html
look legit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210310) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:04 AM Author: lavender impressive abode
fuck, man. I don't know anything about the domain hosting. Plus I gotta sleep now.
But I want in on this like a motherfucker.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210312) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:05 AM Author: Coiffed swashbuckling parlour
would this be like a new hope or xoxo strikes back?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210317)
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:16 AM Author: Glittery potus headpube
ibanks, the fed, corporate corruption, state/local corruption, garbage job market, mortgage/FC shit, student loan debt, garbage schools, tuition bubble, iraq vets getting pwn3d by the va. the rot is culture-wide.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210353) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:24 AM Author: Coiffed swashbuckling parlour
"i don't know anything about economics"
outed as a tenured prof at u chicago
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210387) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:22 AM Author: Coiffed swashbuckling parlour
brother, you need to think bigger.
we will rage against the dying of the light. we will shift the paradigm. we will shape the zeitgeist. we will be the voice of a generation. we will nourish the mind and the soul. we will imagine a future with dignity. we will end fads and start trends. we will revive the artistic spirit. we will be the canary in the coal mine. we will be condemned as fools before we are hailed as prophets. we will be the cynics who emerge from our internet chrysalis to become the visionaries of a new world.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210372) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:15 AM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
ok, internet sleuths: research Katz Global and make sure they're legit.
someone else go find a Wordpress theme on http://www.themeforest.com or http://www.woothemes.com or somewhere else. ya'll decide on a good looking theme. keep it very simple - we're only going to have posts on there. nothing fancy.
we'll have this shit up and running by Sunday.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210350) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:22 AM Author: spectacular azn principal's office
first things first, register youthanize.org as a domain site
I'm guessing we can create a site capital pool of about ~$10 to start the site. Just donate 50 cents through a paypal account created by a poster...
edit: or w/e, we can just do sales.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210371) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:49 AM Author: spectacular azn principal's office
YouthExplosion
YouthRevolt
lol nvm sounds pretty terrorist how about
YOUNGMONEY
BOOMERRANGUTANS
YOUTHFUSION
QUANTUMYOUTH
brb gotta go wack off to some weird p0rn
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210564) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:50 AM Author: Walnut Electric Organic Girlfriend Generalized Bond
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:49 AM
Author: Binary Fusion @(\'_\')@
YouthExplosion
YouthRevolt
lol nvm sounds pretty terrorist how about
YOUNGMONEY
BOOMERRANGUTANS
YOUTHFUSION
QUANTUMYOUTH
brb gotta go wack off to some weird p0rn
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210567)
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:34 AM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
yup. this:
http://disqus.com
very full featured comment system.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210481) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 3:45 AM Author: Shimmering greedy boltzmann
sounds like a good idea.
i worry about focusing too narrowly on the youth in revolt theme (would we just abandon Earl?), but there's certainly a lot to talk about in that space.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210543) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 4:23 AM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship Subject: marketing ideas
- just by being birthed on xoxo, i'm 90% sure we could get Elie to give it a mention on AboveTheLaw.
- if we start attacking political candidates, we could get coverage from all kinds of political blogs. need to really attack them though, with the kind of rhetoric an anonymous blog allows.
- you wait a couple weeks, then figure out what blogs have mentioned that BusinessWeek article by checking its backlinks. email them / comment on their post. you do this for any article about how boomers are bad or how the youth are fucked.
- create a Facebook page, give away a "Fuck Boomers" bumper sticker or something to anyone who clicks "Like". run Facebook ads targeting college kids.
- gather comprehensive jobs data. like the best, bar none, collection of data on youth employment rates (from the bureau of labor, census.gov, etc.). create a resource center page on the site for journalists. email it to every journalist who has ever written about generational issues.
other ideas?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210694) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 4:33 AM Author: Coiffed swashbuckling parlour
not that the site should be based on pointless attention whoring.
the content is what matters but it would be a nice way to jump-start the word of the mouth
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210731) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 4:26 AM Author: Glittery potus headpube
"- if we start attacking political candidates, we could get coverage from all kinds of political blogs. need to really attack them though, with the kind of rhetoric an anonymous blog allows"
YES.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210706) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 4:36 AM Author: spectacular azn principal's office
like FUCK THIS CUNT
i like it!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210739) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 4:43 AM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
the point of the fuck boomers was to generation controversy. it's gotta be offensive.
this one is similar, but we don't want anyone to apply - what we want is a reporter to write about a shady method students are using in the face of unemployment.
but whatever, i'm just throwing shit out there.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210751) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 9:25 AM Author: Beady-eyed double fault
From experience, I've hawked shit to ATL, it's easy as hell to get them to reprint, as long as you have something coherent. They're lazy fat-asses who just take whatever's thrown at them. Basic link gets you about 3K in hits over 24 hours and you'll get a slight uptick in readership/RSS.
Additionally, from a marketing angle, Youthanize.org is a shitty name. It's as shitty as XOXOHTH. You need something that resonates and is catchy, but isn't offensive or gross to most people.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210920) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 11:16 AM Author: Bipolar office doctorate
doomed generation
yooth
youinyouth
piratepension
youthconvention
youthvsolds
no idea, i can't come up with names
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17211383) |
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Date: February 4th, 2011 9:48 AM Author: lake massive senate boistinker
its a 'snow day' in Houston. he's probably out frolickings on a trashcan lid in Memorial Park.
that being said, i've been here since PR days and im on board with this idea. There really isnt a cogent political philsophy on this board, hell, the only thing that most poasters have in common is an interest in football, but this board wields a wicked keyboard when it comes to putting blame where blame is due on the fucknuts that wrecked the economy and much else.
i also like the 'dead on the vine' title.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210985) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 9:53 AM Author: Beady-eyed double fault
Okay, a few concepts I kind of like--question is whether they're Googleable (i.e., we want something unique that if someone Googles it, it's the first hit; not something too common).
I like something along the lines of "Rake" or "Raked" or "Rent," all from a similar family.
A "rake" (or "rakehell") is a person of style but loose morals, as youth are undone in contemporary society; also, youth have been "raked" over the coals by the elderly.
"Rent" is something torn in two, as youth have been torn from opportunity; additionally, "rent" is symbolic of a non-ownership society for youth, who lack the resources to purchase.
Another couple of concepts: ambulate, or wander, or moil--some concept of wandering about restlessly with no particular destination (both for youth, and for the multifarious subjects of the blog); "moil" includes some definitions like "wallow in the mire," "work hard," and "harass."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17210995) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:17 AM Author: submissive trip pit immigrant
what about something like dieboomers.com?
I'd be happy to write an article about the scourge of Niggerism in the black community.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17211073) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:22 AM Author: histrionic hyperventilating sandwich
WE'RE HERE, WE'RE QUEER, GET USED TO IT!!!!
oh sorry, wrong thread... I'll be going now *whistles quietly while slinking off*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17211100) |
Date: February 4th, 2011 10:28 AM Author: Pearl forum factory reset button
unfocusedrage.com? I volunteer to set up the website and shit.
EDIT: Taken. Fuck.
EDIT: thewaywardyouth?
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Date: February 4th, 2011 10:38 AM Author: Beady-eyed double fault
"Google" is too smart, too.
I like "Raked." It even sounds like "raped." The image of hot coals searing the site is cool. And there should be an off-topic page in which the "ked" is inverted like "rEVOLution."
http://www.pauljensen.net/ronpaul/inverse_ron_paul_revolution_500px.jpg
Then it would be "raDEK" and could be a place for solzy attidood etc. bullshitting
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Date: February 4th, 2011 10:40 AM Author: lavender impressive abode
Ok,i slept on this and I'm still down. Count me in as a contributor.
Here's what I think. I really like the "dead on the vine" name, it's a solid image of the idea we're trying to convey.
Also, I'm opposed to the idea of bumper stickers or other things with slogans like "fuck boomers" I think it just comes off as raging against the machine, and the goal should be to garner support and understanding for exactly how fucked this generation is. Let the other side pound the rhetoric. we've got facts.
A suggestion would be something like a link to that businessweek article, with a witty caption, an intro into the article, and as long as commentary as the article requires.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 12:04 PM Author: Bipolar office doctorate
that's a good idea, but i really think we need to generate some content before spending too much time on this
too many projects are just doods going "hey lets' be badass and have a mission statement, decide on a URL, etc" instead of focusing on generating some content first
we need 3-4 good screeds imo before worrying about 90% of what we've worried about ITT
of course i'm no better
my suggestion is that some of our good writers pen a screed about econ/pensions/youth issues/banking failures/whatever and poast ITT and we edit and see what we like
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:21 PM Author: Aromatic theatre
Yeah. Like I said below,
1) You and cleverdood recruit other posters on & off the board to create a group of initial contributors,
2) The initial contributors give an idea of what they will contribute,
3) Then the group decides on the unifying theme,
4) Then come the name and implementation details.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 12:26 PM Author: cream vibrant alpha toaster
thanatology is hysterical, bro.
me, too, btw.
:(
sad face
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Date: February 4th, 2011 12:12 PM Author: costumed pozpig
(Alpha) Preamble:
We hold these truths to be self evident: that y'all women are created equal.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 12:21 PM Author: Sepia hairraiser spot ape
I've got the perfect name.
Lostsoles.com
A generation searching for bootstaps.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 1:25 PM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
wow i'm surprised this has resonated with so many of you. awesome.
first things first, we need a name. i really think it's gotta take an irreverent tone. that's the only way we get young people to read it, and it provides a great marketing angle. look at the Law School Transparency guys - too "legit". they have a killer angle (law schools are scams, and we can prove it), but their coverage has been limited.
now, the name itself doesn't have to be offensive. just short. Dead on the Vine is good, but it might be a tad too long. maybe not though. if the name is tame like that, though, the tagline shouldn't be.
also, be careful of being too clever with the name. we want mass appeal. i think the Lost Soles - In Search of Bootstraps above is 180, but too few people will understand it. at least, that's my opinion.
the tone and theme is rage. we're fucking pissed. boomers fucked it up, here's how they've fucked it up, and here are ideas to fix things while fucking them back.
it's gotta have a strong theme like this. and, if our theme was high quality, smart content with a message but attempting to be convincing (like, say, an Atlantic article), it won't go anywhere.
ok so, theme and tagline. there are a lot of ideas above. let's try to settle on one today. also, there needs to be a .org domain available for whatever name you pick. i think we should roll with .org, because it makes us sound like a cause, a non-profit.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 1:32 PM Author: boyish stead
it needs to be lost soles you stupid piece of shit. now get on it.
people will understand "in search of bootstraps" and if not you just throw a goddam cartoon character up there with worn out shoes.
Framing it as "in search of bootstraps" automatically steers your blog in a positive direction--it makes the focus of the blog not on bashing boomers but on trying to get our generation to work in spite of them.
The second will obviously have much greater traction in the media than a blog devoted to bashing boomers.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 1:38 PM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
i don't know that it will obviously have greater traction. i think the negative angle of bashing boomers taps into how pissed off our generation is. look at that rally Stewart and Colbert had - that happened because it was a negative angle (even though he concluded it with a sappy speech). combine the negative angle with irreverence / cursing, the willingness to say shit that others won't, and i think that's the theme to go with.
look at what gets play in the media: it's all negative shit. scandals, bad things happening, how this or that person or entity is trying to screw someone over. when's the last time you saw a highly rated news show that had a positive spin?
edit: we want boomers to show up, read what has been written, and get fucking angry at us. we want those comments like "you're all lazy and don't work hard enough". if the blog is about finding jobs for young people, they're just going to read it and think "oh, that's good."
edit 2: that's not to say i'm against the name. the name is good. ya'll vote or something and decide. i'm just talking about the overall theme / tone.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:41 PM Author: boyish stead
man what the fuck is this shit
the whole point is to refocus the debate away from being lazy kids who dont want to work. the boomer bashing in that instance comes off as self-indulgent and jealous. thats how boomers want to phrase this generational divide--they work hard, we bitch and couchsurf. ihateboomers.com or wemad.com just sounds petulant and wont be taken seriously.
by setting it up as a blog devoted to exposing the truth about who wants to work but cant because we have been fuckt by the boomers, we draw sympathy and curiosity into our position. the boomers then, rather than dismissing us as lazy, will be defensive and then the flame will be on.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 1:44 PM Author: Sepia hairraiser spot ape
pretty much it's what we're pissed about and what we're looking for, and it's the perfect insult re: boomers, we just want what they had, the ability to even get our foot in the door then pull ourselves up.
I'm not really a huge boomer hate like ya'll but I think the name works, it's for sale see how much it is. Spend 50-100 bucks on the name if you actually want to devote some time, imo. I'm sure you can purchase it anonymously if you try.
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a bunch of highly educated twenty and thirty somethings just wandering aimlessly looking for a way to prove themselves because they can't get an entry level job. Lost Soles brah.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1553939&forum_id=2#17212145)
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Date: February 4th, 2011 1:49 PM Author: lavender impressive abode
Just vetting ideas brother, but I don't know how hard we should push on the tone/theme being rage. Yeah, WE are pissed OFS, but I wonder if we should be more level headed in the approach.
I think a satire/ironic approach would work well, even a little schticky, coupled with a strong analysis of exactly why we are fucked. I just don't know how much traction we would get if we just say, hey boomers you fucked everything up and we know it! We should say in a mocking way, to their face, with a smile.
For example, responding to a guy's comment from the businessweek article who said, this generatino is lazy and just complains when it faces a little adversity, and doesn't know what hard work is etc etc etc. Gimme a little bit and I could FUCK THAT GUY UP without turning it into a finger-pointing bitchfest.
I guess my notion runs similar to firejoemorgan.com.
edit - imo the biggest focal point has to be an original and witty perspective that people enjoy reading and look forward to reading more of.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 1:49 PM Author: bateful smoky stage keepsake machete
Lol has :D really not posted itt yet?
Anyway this is a great idea and hope I can contribute once it's up.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:08 PM Author: Vigorous purple indian lodge
It's too ambiguous IMO.
Here are some ideas
solelessgen, solelessyouth, bootlessyouth, nobootsnofruits, boottheboomer,
It's hard to come up with something good since you have to keep it short...
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:17 PM Author: passionate jewess set
now all we need are people to commit large scale acts of vandalism and banksy-esque graffiti referencing the fuck boomers meme and this site and this will be fucking huge
not legal advice
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:17 PM Author: Racy misanthropic gaming laptop plaza
http://www.vbulletin.com/
Someone give me $285 for some content management bro.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:21 PM Author: Vigorous purple indian lodge
Alright, before this becomes dead in the water, how about we decide on a principle outline or "fact" sheet that'll be available immediately to whoever visits the site. This will list all of the grievances that the younger generations should have against the boomers and the policies, that way everyone immediately knows where we're coming from. Then maybe these things can even be partitioned so that individual blog posts will relate back to the ideas.
Something like:
-Entitlement spending and why it is screwing us
-Current state of tuition prices and non-dischargeable loans
-unemployment and underemployment
-Union practices that shit on new people entering the field
-Misdirection when it comes to education
Thoughts?
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:24 PM Author: Shimmering greedy boltzmann
for most things, the name isn't important -- but for this it definitely deserves some thought.
something like dead on the vine is too morbid -- we'll look like a bunch of emo faggots.
youthanize is bad for the reason rasqie never came in here
i agree it has to be edgy, but pushing it too far lowers your readership and credibility (who wants to get caught reading "YOUTHANIZE.COM: F#$K OLDS" or refer it to a friend / link on facebook)
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:31 PM Author: Shimmering greedy boltzmann
sounds emo
what about...
toxicboom.com
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:45 PM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
thoughts on this theme:
http://convergence.themedemo.net/
obviously the sponsor and flickr boxes on the right would be taken out, and i think a different color than blue across the top.
edit: i'm looking at others too
edit #2: here's one with a completely different look:
http://grungy.timgweb.com/
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:50 PM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
theme #3: vintage newspaper look:
http://studiomw.co.uk/demo/inki-theme/
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Date: February 4th, 2011 2:53 PM Author: exhilarant salmon parlor
in many ways i think the basic xo style is desirable in its minimalism. taking theme #1 and reducing it even further. across the top think an unordered list of links for
law bort - digest - blawg - etc - etc
digest could be something akin to tumblr, blawg for screeds, law bort is the law bort. i haven't skimmed through this thread in its whole, i'm sure there are gems of recommendations.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:15 PM Author: Sexy gold masturbator cruise ship
i don't want to "get in" on shit. i'm setting it up. have you not done something like this before?
heavy handed top-down leadership is what launched xoxo from PR in the first place. the only reason this place has thrived is because of rach's hands off attitude. i'm sorry, but your idea is dumb.
we need an editor or two to manage the content and maybe assign topics that aren't getting covered organically, we need a general direction, and that's it. then you figure shit out as you go along.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 3:48 PM Author: Sepia hairraiser spot ape
BTW a huge recurring feature of this blog should be huge anti-AARP muckraking.
Legit research into F'd up AARP positions would be pretty awesome.
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Date: February 4th, 2011 8:40 PM Author: Bipolar office doctorate
I've been away all day doing shit, but I figured I'd throw one more idea about name out before we move any further. Just can't in all good faith not say this URL idea:
http://theyabandoned.us
OK, back to your regularly scheduled program.
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