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Zimmerman is FUCKED: Trayvon texts barred from trial

Trayvon Martin information barred The judge at the George Z...
lascivious cumskin rigpig
  05/28/13
Thankfully the prosecution doesn't have any evidence that ca...
pale home
  05/28/13
Actually its barred pending the prosecutions case and she wi...
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
...
wine trailer park knife
  05/28/13
what would marijuana use have to do with anything anyway? ar...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
180 kitchen liquid oxygen
  05/28/13
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trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
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Flushed Razzle-dazzle Theatre
  05/28/13
OH THE MAJESTY OF TEH LAW
copper painfully honest senate
  05/28/13
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Tan drunken base weed whacker
  05/28/13
judge also has yet to rule on the defense's motion to bar th...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
the "voice expert" stuff is incredible bullshit
avocado twinkling uncleanness stag film
  05/28/13
(obvious reptile who wants Zim to walk)
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
young trayvon
titillating cobalt marketing idea really tough guy
  05/28/13
saint baby trayvon
Mahogany odious patrolman
  05/28/13
in heaven, on a bed of clouds rests are sweet prince baby tr...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-mar...
Mahogany odious patrolman
  05/28/13
is this one of those pictures where they digitally age the s...
180 kitchen liquid oxygen
  05/28/13
your boy killed a teenage high school student. u mad?
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
are there any known voice samples to compare?
Spectacular market juggernaut
  05/28/13
The good news is that Trayvon is still dead.
Electric rambunctious spot kitty
  05/28/13
PSA: the jurors have access to the internets
Rose mental disorder ratface
  05/28/13
If Zim could go back in time, do you think he would not get ...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
Of course.
Turquoise university
  05/28/13
Oh what a straw man!
pale home
  05/28/13
what?
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
straw man fallacy is when you mischaracterize your opponent'...
titillating cobalt marketing idea really tough guy
  05/28/13
question: who the fuck cares?
Mustard talented boltzmann yarmulke
  05/28/13
(sub-90 IQ shtick)
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
Hopefully this case will make future "neighborhood watc...
Mentally Impaired Library
  05/28/13
what good is a neighborhood watch if it's not harrassing th...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
yeah we can't have neighborhood watch people looking into br...
sooty nursing home digit ratio
  05/28/13
HOW WOULD THE TEXTS HAVE HELPED ZIMMERMAN?
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
*is old white lady listening to voicemails that go "yo ...
chrome excitant alpha office
  05/28/13
what was the content of the texts in question?
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
hood rat gangsta shit, asking about guns, pictures with guns...
chrome excitant alpha office
  05/28/13
link to texts?
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
just google bro
chrome excitant alpha office
  05/28/13
None of which is relevant
Supple Internal Respiration
  05/29/13
This would be a good entry in the ongoing xoxo game: retard ...
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
...
hairless ape locus
  05/28/13
The previous fights should have gotten in. Zimmerman's argum...
Turquoise university
  05/28/13
many kids get in fights in their teens. it's not an indicati...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
Link to half the male posters here being part of a fight clu...
pale home
  05/28/13
what kind of reasoning is this? Of course getting into fight...
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  05/28/13
is playing football as a youth also an indication for propen...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
First, you need to clean up your reasoning. Nobody has said ...
thirsty appetizing box office doctorate
  05/28/13
Motion DENIED
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
you are fucking stupid.
Heady den
  05/28/13
JFC, You are dumb
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
Should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimmerman's pr...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&fo...
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
You apply the same logic: Does it suggest something about th...
thirsty appetizing box office doctorate
  05/28/13
no shit: your football "argument" is one of the du...
180 kitchen liquid oxygen
  05/28/13
...
Turquoise university
  05/28/13
explain
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
I agree, the above poasters football 'argument' is profoundl...
blue vengeful fat ankles gaping
  05/28/13
splain
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
football is a sport alfa highschool bros play to solcial-net...
blue vengeful fat ankles gaping
  05/28/13
did u ever get in a fight when u were a teenager?
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
were you ever selling drugs, breaking and entering, stealing...
180 kitchen liquid oxygen
  05/28/13
I did some of that. Anyway, the question had to do with the ...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
they would if he were black
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
right.. and this is what his lawyer would argue... excluding...
Curious point wrinkle
  05/28/13
Attention retards: Propensity evidence is only relevant i...
Pearl son of senegal
  05/28/13
yes because appeals courts apply an exacting standard of rev...
Razzmatazz startled private investor
  05/28/13
YOU SHITLIBS ARE FUCKING RETARDED. GAS YOURSELF.
Flushed Razzle-dazzle Theatre
  05/28/13
Only if Zimmerman knew about them. Did Zimmerman know about ...
Supple Internal Respiration
  05/29/13
His mental state is not the only basis for relevancy. They ...
canary newt
  05/29/13
it's admissible character evidence
cocky insane french chef
  05/29/13
This probably one of of those rare cases where it isnt a hor...
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
Cant do self-defense defense and NOT testify. He has to.
Naked mood messiness
  05/28/13
Then wont his testimony and cross pretty much be the whole c...
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
Yes, for lawyers. For jurors, who knows what smoke and mirro...
Naked mood messiness
  05/28/13
end of the day, zimmerfaggot killed an innocent young man. t...
Mustard talented boltzmann yarmulke
  05/28/13
Yeah basically they were both violent minorities.
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
...
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  05/28/13
seems like cr
violent tattoo
  05/29/13
...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
I wonder if the defense will be allowed to enter into eviden...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
that stuff should definitely be allowed. it shows intent on ...
Mustard talented boltzmann yarmulke
  05/28/13
Today, an enterprising young poaster in another thread resea...
lavender stimulating sanctuary persian
  05/28/13
tiNtcr. You cited only mere rules and precedents which the ...
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
it makes no sense that the defendant would also have to know...
metal mischievous place of business
  05/28/13
LOL
Razzmatazz startled private investor
  05/28/13
Date: May 28th, 2013 7:10 PM Author: ,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,...
Razzmatazz startled private investor
  05/28/13
I suppose it makes sense in the broader scheme of our crimin...
blathering half-breed hospital
  05/28/13
gas yourself idiot
Supple Internal Respiration
  05/29/13
ITT: Reptiles shocked to discover the judicial system is no ...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
Lol...no. Generally pwning defendants is a pretty reptile m...
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
True, but even the democrats are racist there. More than 10%...
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
Tbf, did they actually split or did they sit out the senate ...
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
Looks like both. http://www.voteseminole.org/links/ESR_Offic...
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
Result: They MAF, oh they so so MAD.
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
Reptiles, should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimm...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
Only if: 1) It was a felony conviction 2) He takes the...
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
I think in flo rida only if it was a crime of dishonesty and...
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
He has to testify if theyre using self-defense. And it would...
Naked mood messiness
  05/28/13
Sure. Put the dirty spic away.
Galvanic corner
  05/28/13
(guy who doesn't realize the defendant gets advantages that ...
Curious point wrinkle
  05/28/13
(guy who doesn't realize that isn't relevant here)
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
No idea legally. But logically, it comes down to whether tha...
thirsty appetizing box office doctorate
  05/28/13
Every post you make should come with the subtitle: I have no...
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
lol. I specifically eschew that which could be lifted from w...
thirsty appetizing box office doctorate
  05/28/13
Just give up and leave. You're a joke.
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
CGM catches shit but he's more logical and coherent than 99%...
At-the-ready field haunted graveyard
  05/28/13
No, he's a plodding pedantic pissant.
exhilarant talking black woman forum
  05/28/13
180
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
...
free-loading party of the first part telephone
  05/28/13
thank you. this was the reptile response I was looking for.
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
Not a reptile brah. If it helps, I also don't think Martin's...
thirsty appetizing box office doctorate
  05/28/13
but not Zimmerman's assault charges? I find it interesting t...
boyish organic girlfriend piazza
  05/28/13
The accounts have I read of Zimmerman's charge were explicit...
thirsty appetizing box office doctorate
  05/28/13
Trayvon is not on trial here, Zimmerman is. We give defendan...
Bateful Tanning Salon Lettuce
  05/28/13
LOL HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
free-loading party of the first part telephone
  05/28/13
...
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
If you step back and think about it, it is surreal how much ...
contagious nibblets
  05/28/13
how's that any good for the prosecution? everyone on that ju...
histrionic aquamarine wagecucks
  05/28/13
tbh, i wouldnt have heard about these texts if not for xoxoh...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
you don't think people on the jury are going to go online an...
histrionic aquamarine wagecucks
  05/28/13
i doubt that most of the jury pool knows how to use google e...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
You over estimate the technological prowess of your average ...
trip autistic space partner
  05/28/13
Pro tip, no lawyer ever thought that any of those were getti...
nubile henna sound barrier
  05/28/13
have any media besides FOX picked this up?
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
Its been heavily covered by florida news outlets
nubile henna sound barrier
  05/28/13
funny, i live in florida and havent heard anything about thi...
aqua travel guidebook
  05/28/13
Are you serious? ALl the related stories have been on CNN...
french vigorous gas station
  05/28/13
False- http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263915&...
hairless ape locus
  05/28/13
No lawyer thought....
nubile henna sound barrier
  05/28/13
It does tend to make it more likely, under relevance princip...
embarrassed to the bone high-end address
  05/28/13
?
french vigorous gas station
  05/29/13
I agree that it's relevant, but I think this was not exclude...
canary newt
  05/29/13
Under rule 405, you can prove character on direct only by op...
harsh national security agency
  05/29/13
yea, its admissible character evidence
cocky insane french chef
  05/29/13
OH WHAT A TRIAL FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WGWAG 4E
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  07/13/13
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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:35 AM
Author: lascivious cumskin rigpig

Trayvon Martin information barred

The judge at the George Zimmerman murder trial ruled the defense cannot bring up Martin's text messages, his familiarity with guns, marijuana use or previous fights.

LOL reptile dorks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283896)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:40 AM
Author: pale home

Thankfully the prosecution doesn't have any evidence that can be barred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283906)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:21 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

Actually its barred pending the prosecutions case and she will rule on it again depending on what the prosecution presents. Presumably they will have to put on some evidence of Z being the aggressor and that brings all if this in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284078)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:51 PM
Author: wine trailer park knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286937)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:41 AM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

what would marijuana use have to do with anything anyway? are reptiles really this unhinged?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283910)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:47 PM
Author: 180 kitchen liquid oxygen

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284194)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:11 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284288)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 9:17 PM
Author: Flushed Razzle-dazzle Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23287512)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:42 AM
Author: copper painfully honest senate

OH THE MAJESTY OF TEH LAW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283912)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:04 PM
Author: Tan drunken base weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284011)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:43 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

judge also has yet to rule on the defense's motion to bar the prosecution's voice expert, who will testify that the screams on the 911 tape were those of young Trayvon.

The basis for their motion is that there's only 8 seconds of tape and the industry guidelines recommend a minimum of 10 seconds to analyze an audio sample such as this. i expect that their motion will be denied, but you never know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283917)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: avocado twinkling uncleanness stag film

the "voice expert" stuff is incredible bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283980)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

(obvious reptile who wants Zim to walk)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283993)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:02 PM
Author: titillating cobalt marketing idea really tough guy

young trayvon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284002)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:25 PM
Author: Mahogany odious patrolman

saint baby trayvon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284098)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:28 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

in heaven, on a bed of clouds rests are sweet prince baby trayvon, blanketed by a host of angels

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284110)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:46 PM
Author: Mahogany odious patrolman

http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/trayvon-martin-grad.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284192)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:48 PM
Author: 180 kitchen liquid oxygen

is this one of those pictures where they digitally age the subjects to see what they would look like now? i'm pretty sure he was much younger than this when he was stalked and brutally murdered just for being black by george zimmerman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284199)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:04 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

your boy killed a teenage high school student. u mad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284257)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:12 PM
Author: Spectacular market juggernaut

are there any known voice samples to compare?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284298)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:44 AM
Author: Electric rambunctious spot kitty

The good news is that Trayvon is still dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283921)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:44 AM
Author: Rose mental disorder ratface

PSA: the jurors have access to the internets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283923)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:45 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

If Zim could go back in time, do you think he would not get out of the car, or perhaps not followed the young man in the first place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283928)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: Turquoise university

Of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283933)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: pale home

Oh what a straw man!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283937)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283948)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: titillating cobalt marketing idea really tough guy

straw man fallacy is when you mischaracterize your opponent's position and then attack that, the straw man, instead of his actual position. you're assuming that the dude did those things in the first place, but i dont think that was really a straw man, and its not really a false dichotomy either. what kind of fallacy do you think you used?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284016)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:20 PM
Author: Mustard talented boltzmann yarmulke

question: who the fuck cares?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284073)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:23 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

(sub-90 IQ shtick)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284084)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: Mentally Impaired Library

Hopefully this case will make future "neighborhood watchmen" think twice before approaching random strangers (win or lose for Zimm)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283966)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:31 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

what good is a neighborhood watch if it's not harrassing the local niggers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284408)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:18 PM
Author: sooty nursing home digit ratio

yeah we can't have neighborhood watch people looking into bros who are high as fuck and trying to steal shit in a neighborhood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286773)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:46 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

HOW WOULD THE TEXTS HAVE HELPED ZIMMERMAN?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283930)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: chrome excitant alpha office

*is old white lady listening to voicemails that go "yo n****a, I just got my gat and beat on some punkass bitch fo scuffing ma shoes woot woot"*

*def doesn't change her mind about anything*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283939)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:51 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

what was the content of the texts in question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283950)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:52 AM
Author: chrome excitant alpha office

hood rat gangsta shit, asking about guns, pictures with guns, bragging about being a mini gangsta

he may have been completely full of shit about it, but he does not present a sympathetic image

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283958)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

link to texts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283964)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:55 AM
Author: chrome excitant alpha office

just google bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283969)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:37 AM
Author: Supple Internal Respiration

None of which is relevant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289186)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

This would be a good entry in the ongoing xoxo game: retard or aspie?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283960)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:35 PM
Author: hairless ape locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284424)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: Turquoise university

The previous fights should have gotten in. Zimmerman's argument is essentially that Trayvon started a fight with him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283945)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

many kids get in fights in their teens. it's not an indication of propensity for violence. just a normal part of growing up.

over half the male poasters here likely got in several fights in their teens. doesn't mean anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283961)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: pale home

Link to half the male posters here being part of a fight club?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283981)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:00 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

what kind of reasoning is this? Of course getting into fights is an indication of propensity for violence. Even if it is "normal" for certain groups, that is not an argument against it being an indication of propensity but rather suggests that those groups for whom fights are normal as a group have a propensity aswell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23283990)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:03 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

is playing football as a youth also an indication for propensity for violence since football is a violent sport? if you were ever accused of assault, would it be fair for a jury to consider that you played football in your youth and infer from that that you are a violent person? I would say that's far more prejudicial than probative. same goes for getting into a schoolyard fight or two. apparently the judge feels the same way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284006)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:07 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

First, you need to clean up your reasoning. Nobody has said that showing that you are involved in an activity definitively proves you are a violent person. You seemed to have dropped the key word "propensity".

Second, yes showing you played football, for example, does have bearing on your propensity to engage in physical violence. The HS football player is alot more likely to jump someone for looking at them the wrong way or following them vs. the nerd in the library.

Third, based on what I have seen, we are not talking about some weak indicators such as participation in football where you can certainly argue it is more likely to prejudice without actually being a good link to propensity. Bragging about guns and violence, being a part of filmed fist-fights, etc, are pretty fucking indicative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284021)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

Motion DENIED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284033)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: Heady den

you are fucking stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284107)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:13 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner

JFC,

You are dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284302)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:16 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

Should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimmerman's prior felony assault charge against a police officer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284321)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:17 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284320

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284323)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:25 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

You apply the same logic: Does it suggest something about the propensity of the individual towards initiating violent confrontations?

I'm no expert on Zimmerman's past, but from what I have read, the charge came about because he was assaulted by an undercover officer (not knowing they were an officer) and defended himself. The only relevance therefore to this case would be to suggest that Zimmerman is willing to defend himself when someone else attacks him. Certainly not something that can be used against him. However, if the events surrounding the charge were different, say Zimmerman initiated violence against the undercover cop for whatever reason, then yes it should be allowed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284369)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:51 PM
Author: 180 kitchen liquid oxygen

no shit: your football "argument" is one of the dumbest things i've seen on this site. just sit back and think about all the things that are dumb about what you're saying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284208)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:00 PM
Author: Turquoise university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284238)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:13 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284303)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:15 PM
Author: blue vengeful fat ankles gaping

I agree, the above poasters football 'argument' is profoundly stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284310)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:17 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

splain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284329)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:22 PM
Author: blue vengeful fat ankles gaping

football is a sport alfa highschool bros play to solcial-network and put on their college applications, NOT because they have some propensity for violence.

Being a thug nigger who gets into fights at school and sells dope and poses for thug pics with guns DOES indicate a propensity for violence.

I don't understand how someone would even need this explained to them. What sort of delusional fantasyland do you shitlibs live in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284351)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:23 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

did u ever get in a fight when u were a teenager?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284358)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:35 PM
Author: 180 kitchen liquid oxygen

were you ever selling drugs, breaking and entering, stealing jewelry, involved in an organized fight club, constantly kicked out of school, banned from your mother's home, and attempting to buy multiple pistols when you were a teenager?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284426)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:41 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

I did some of that. Anyway, the question had to do with the victim's schoolyard fights. My question to the other poster was whether he ever got into fights as a teen. I'm assuming his silence means he has. My follow up question is, what does his schoolyard fights say about him and his propensity to commit violence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284462)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:44 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

they would if he were black

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284481)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:22 PM
Author: Curious point wrinkle

right.. and this is what his lawyer would argue... excluding evidence of propensity to violence in a self defense case is bullshit and creates a solid appeal argument i would think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284350)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 4:00 PM
Author: Pearl son of senegal

Attention retards:

Propensity evidence is only relevant if the defendant knows about the propensity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23285517)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 6:55 PM
Author: Razzmatazz startled private investor

yes because appeals courts apply an exacting standard of review when that's the error raised on appeal

(idiot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286619)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 9:18 PM
Author: Flushed Razzle-dazzle Theatre

YOU SHITLIBS ARE FUCKING RETARDED. GAS YOURSELF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23287517)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:37 AM
Author: Supple Internal Respiration

Only if Zimmerman knew about them. Did Zimmerman know about them? No? Then how the fuck can they have contributed to Zimmerman's mental state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289191)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:42 AM
Author: canary newt

His mental state is not the only basis for relevancy. They tend to corroborate his story that Trayvon started shit.

That makes them relevant, although that doesn't necessarily make them admissible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289211)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: cocky insane french chef

it's admissible character evidence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289345)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

This probably one of of those rare cases where it isnt a horrible idea for him to testify.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284047)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:38 PM
Author: Naked mood messiness

Cant do self-defense defense and NOT testify. He has to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284149)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:40 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

Then wont his testimony and cross pretty much be the whole case? The rest of this seems kind of extraneous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284158)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:42 PM
Author: Naked mood messiness

Yes, for lawyers. For jurors, who knows what smoke and mirrors shit they fixate on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284166)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:21 PM
Author: Mustard talented boltzmann yarmulke

end of the day, zimmerfaggot killed an innocent young man. trayhero was a thug-in-training and likely would have eventually killed someone and gone to prison for murder if zimmerfaggot hadn't killed him. however, he still didn't deserve to die like that, and his death was zimmerfaggot's fault. zimmerfaggot must pay bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284080)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:23 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

Yeah basically they were both violent minorities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284087)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:31 PM
Author: Sienna legal warrant house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284117)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 2:43 AM
Author: violent tattoo

seems like cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289835)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:24 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284088)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

I wonder if the defense will be allowed to enter into evidence his dreams of one day becoming an airline pilot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284106)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:49 PM
Author: Mustard talented boltzmann yarmulke

that stuff should definitely be allowed. it shows intent on trayvon's part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284203)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:48 PM
Author: lavender stimulating sanctuary persian

Today, an enterprising young poaster in another thread researched the Florida rules of evidence and found that such character evidence is admissible only where the defendant is claiming self-defense AND knew of the victim's propensity for violence. Since Zimmerman did not know Trayvon before the incident the character evidence does not meet the exception. The same poaster could not think of another doctrine or exception by which the texts/pics would be admissible. So, all-in-all this was a proper ruling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284200)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 12:56 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

tiNtcr. You cited only mere rules and precedents which the chatboard is not bound by. Please add some references to shitlibs, reptiles and heros in the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284223)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:10 PM
Author: metal mischievous place of business

it makes no sense that the defendant would also have to know of the victim's propensity for violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286721)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:13 PM
Author: Razzmatazz startled private investor

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286737)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:14 PM
Author: Razzmatazz startled private investor

Date: May 28th, 2013 7:10 PM

Author: ,,.,,.,,.,.,.,.,..,..,..,..,

it makes no sense that the defendant would also have to know of the victim's propensity for violence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286721)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286744)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:20 PM
Author: blathering half-breed hospital

I suppose it makes sense in the broader scheme of our criminal justice system in that we prioritize violent crime by strangers over that by acquaintances, friends, family, or lovers. There is the remedy of that defense in situations of non-stranger violent crime. Whether this distinction is a worthy one is up for debate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286785)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:40 AM
Author: Supple Internal Respiration

gas yourself idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289203)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:09 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

ITT: Reptiles shocked to discover the judicial system is no longer stacked in their favor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284281)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:11 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

Lol...no. Generally pwning defendants is a pretty reptile move. And the Seminole Cty FL legal system (a county that every GOP nominee since Wilkie has won) is very good at pwning criminal doods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284293)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:14 PM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

True, but even the democrats are racist there. More than 10% split their ticket Romney and Nelson for senate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284305)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:18 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

Tbf, did they actually split or did they sit out the senate race? Connie Mack was just awful.

But probably cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284333)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

Looks like both. http://www.voteseminole.org/links/ESR_Official.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284388)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:15 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner

Result: They MAF, oh they so so MAD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284314)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:16 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

Reptiles, should the prosecution be allowed to refer to Zimmerman's prior felony assault charges (2 domestic, 1 against a police officer)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284318)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:16 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner

Only if:

1) It was a felony conviction

2) He takes the stand to testify.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284320)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:30 PM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

I think in flo rida only if it was a crime of dishonesty and they are using it to impeach his testimony -OR- if the defense introduces his character with respect to violence first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284403)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:33 PM
Author: Naked mood messiness

He has to testify if theyre using self-defense. And it would only come in that he had a felony conviction within ten years, not the nature of the conviction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284417)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:20 PM
Author: Galvanic corner

Sure. Put the dirty spic away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284339)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: Curious point wrinkle

(guy who doesn't realize the defendant gets advantages that the prosecution doesn't enjoy -- hmm wonder why that could be)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284390)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

(guy who doesn't realize that isn't relevant here)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284438)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:32 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

No idea legally. But logically, it comes down to whether that history is directly relevant. I have no idea about the domestic charges, but the police officer charge appears to be irrelevant as it does not speak to Zimmerman's propensity to initiate physical violence against others. If however, lets say, Zimmerman had a domestic abuse charge against him, then yes that should potentially be included as it might (depending on the facts of course) shed light on whether or not he initiates violence against others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284415)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

Every post you make should come with the subtitle: I have no fucking idea but here's a rough paraphrase of a Wikipedia article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284439)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:39 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

lol. I specifically eschew that which could be lifted from wiki (the actual legal question).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284448)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

Just give up and leave. You're a joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284699)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:41 PM
Author: At-the-ready field haunted graveyard

CGM catches shit but he's more logical and coherent than 99% of this boart

his posts are very clunky (like an argument robot wrote them) but they make sense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284960)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:52 PM
Author: exhilarant talking black woman forum

No, he's a plodding pedantic pissant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23285028)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:40 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284458)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:49 PM
Author: free-loading party of the first part telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284532)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

thank you. this was the reptile response I was looking for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284441)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:40 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

Not a reptile brah. If it helps, I also don't think Martin's weed use should be allowed as it, on its own, suggests very little about propensity towards initiating violence. The guns and fights however? you bet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284453)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:45 PM
Author: boyish organic girlfriend piazza

but not Zimmerman's assault charges? I find it interesting that you gave Zim the benefit of the doubt and presumed he was merely "defending himself" against the police officer he was charged with assaulting, but you make no mention of the possibility that the victim here could have been defending himself when he got into a fight in school. I also find it interesting that you don't find that interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284489)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:49 PM
Author: thirsty appetizing box office doctorate

The accounts have I read of Zimmerman's charge were explicit in that he did not initiate the physical assault but merely responded to it. This is in part probably fucking why the charges were dropped. If the accounts I read had not mentioned details about who initiated, then my opinion would have been "We need to know more, they may be permissible depending on the facts". As it stands now from everything that I have read, it is clear Zimmerman did not initiate the violence against the undercover officer.

It is also clear from the texts and videos that Martin was participating voluntarily in fights. I'm not sure how you can possibly form an alternative explanation that is it all plausible, but please feel free to do so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284538)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 4:41 PM
Author: Bateful Tanning Salon Lettuce

Trayvon is not on trial here, Zimmerman is. We give defendants a special latitude in our legal system because of the desire to prove that someone is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and because prosecutors tend to be far more powerful than they have any right to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23285739)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:36 PM
Author: free-loading party of the first part telephone

LOL HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284429)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:41 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284461)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:50 PM
Author: contagious nibblets

If you step back and think about it, it is surreal how much effort the same people put in day after day, after day after day, to arguing about things like Trayvon Martin on this Internet message board.

The Lisa Rowe bf thread is another good example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284545)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:48 PM
Author: histrionic aquamarine wagecucks

how's that any good for the prosecution? everyone on that jury will know about all of this already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284518)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:51 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

tbh, i wouldnt have heard about these texts if not for xoxohth and i still havnt even seen them referenced outside of this board. and i live in florida

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284551)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: histrionic aquamarine wagecucks

you don't think people on the jury are going to go online and read up on the case and all of the facts (admissible or not)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284592)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:57 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

i doubt that most of the jury pool knows how to use google effectively

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284601)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: trip autistic space partner

You over estimate the technological prowess of your average juror.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284660)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: nubile henna sound barrier

Pro tip, no lawyer ever thought that any of those were getting in unless the prosecution started delving into the saintly nature of dear departeed baby trayvon at trial, which they would be stupid to do. The defenses main goal with this was to get it out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284586)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 1:59 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

have any media besides FOX picked this up?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284623)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:01 PM
Author: nubile henna sound barrier

Its been heavily covered by florida news outlets

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284646)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: aqua travel guidebook

funny, i live in florida and havent heard anything about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284696)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 7:20 PM
Author: french vigorous gas station

Are you serious?

ALl the related stories have been on CNN's main page as the top story multiple times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23286784)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:02 PM
Author: hairless ape locus

False- http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263915&mc=164&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284654)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 2:06 PM
Author: nubile henna sound barrier

No lawyer thought....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23284685)



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Date: May 28th, 2013 9:22 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone high-end address

It does tend to make it more likely, under relevance principles, that the "victim" would respond violently, even if it wasn't known to the defendant. Doesn't that overcome the objection on relevance grounds? If so, on what basis do we exclude it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23287544)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:39 AM
Author: french vigorous gas station

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289198)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:43 AM
Author: canary newt

I agree that it's relevant, but I think this was not excluded on relevancy grounds. I'm going off third-hand reports and 0 experience with criminal evidence rules, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289221)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 12:46 AM
Author: harsh national security agency

Under rule 405, you can prove character on direct only by opinion/reputation evidence. Only on cross you can bring up specific instances.

Specific instances are only allowed to prove character on direct I believe when it's an essential element to claim or defense (e.g. a defamation claim).

Now, in this case, it seems very fucking likely that they'll get it in somehow. The state's star witness has already been caught in numerous lies, and I think the D can press her to say Martin would never start a fight or something along those lines, at which point the D can try to impeach her with specific instances.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289243)



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Date: May 29th, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: cocky insane french chef

yea, its admissible character evidence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23289360)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:35 PM
Author: Slimy public bath

OH WHAT A TRIAL FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WGWAG 4E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23612657)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:35 PM
Author: Slimy public bath

OH WHAT A TRIAL FUCK YOU FAGGOTS WGWAG 4E

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23612658)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:49 PM
Author: Slimy public bath

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23617228)



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Date: July 13th, 2013 7:49 PM
Author: Slimy public bath

NO SILENCE NO PEACE SHITLIBS SHITEIBS IAJFAIJRJOCJCOIGHGHHH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2267401&forum_id=2#23617229)