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Friend got tenure track professorship at state school (Salary?)
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:34 PM Author: Soul-stirring hell In a social science (Think Psych, Pol Sci, IR, etc). Went to a T20 program, very little debt. How much is he making? Its a blue state but not a state flagship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986575) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:39 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field oh sweet, this thread again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986598) |
Date: June 29th, 2012 8:35 PM Author: Soul-stirring hell hes an associate professor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986576) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:37 PM Author: Ultramarine stage internal respiration 80k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986583) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:39 PM Author: slippery vivacious queen of the night jap what will he max out at brother? Hes a pretty alpha bro, good looking, charming as fruack, will break down the walls of the coldest chick at the bar like it was NBD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986592) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:14 PM Author: adventurous mint double fault space No.
Too high. |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:38 PM Author: Electric Feces first job? assistant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986591) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:39 PM Author: slippery vivacious queen of the night jap The titles listed on the website are Associate Professor Professor Emeritus Professor Instructor Visiting Professor
Hes an Associate Professor |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:40 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field he's an assistant professor, also you already made this thread a month ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986605) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: slippery vivacious queen of the night jap yeah I know, I'm kinda jelly of this bro, seems to be living the credited life. How much is he banking, also I think I wrote humanities in the previous one to conceal identity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986611) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: Electric Feces if so that is extremely rare. can he do consulting on the side/during summer? my guess is 70K for a 9 month contract. |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:39 PM Author: vengeful senate 45 to 55k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986594) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:40 PM Author: slippery vivacious queen of the night jap seems way too fucking low (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986601) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:50 PM Author: vengeful senate That's academia brah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986640) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:39 PM Author: Ocher old irish cottage station State schools have to disclose salary lists, don't they? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986599) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:40 PM Author: Orchid stead Yes, it's public info. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986602) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:40 PM Author: slippery vivacious queen of the night jap He hasn't started yet so his salary info isn't posted. Its a big state school system research uni. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986606) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: Ocher old irish cottage station Find the name of another assistant professor in the dept, compare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986612) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:48 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field Earnings for college faculty vary according to rank and type of institution, geographic area, and field. According to a 2006-07 survey by the American Association of University Professors, salaries for full-time faculty averaged $73,207. By rank, the average was $98,974 for professors, $69,911 for associate professors, $58,662 for assistant professors, $42,609 for instructors, and $48,289 for lecturers. Faculty in 4-year institutions earn higher salaries, on average, than do those in 2-year schools. In 2006-07, faculty salaries averaged $84,249 in private independent institutions, $71,362 in public institutions, and $66,118 in religiously affiliated private colleges and universities. In fields with high-paying nonacademic alternatives—medicine, law, engineering, and business, among others—earnings exceed these averages. In others fields, such as the humanities and education, earnings are lower. Earnings for postsecondary career and technical education teachers vary widely by subject, academic credentials, experience, and region of the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986632) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 8:52 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field If he's in econ it will be slightly higher. unless the dude is a legit superstar he's making 55-65K. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#20986656) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:03 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk UT:
biz profs make like 150-200k as an assistant. i assume because they a) can easily get a high paying job and b) relatively fewer biz phds get the degree for academia in the first place (unlike econ, where I'd bet % gunning for academia is higher even if they could still get good jobs)
humanities seems to be around 65-70
engineering 90k
geo/physics 85k
econ 110k
cs 95k
https://sp.austin.utexas.edu/sites/ut/rpt/Documents/IMA_FS_AvgFacSalColRankEXP_2010_AY.pdf
obviously UT is a very good school so you can probably whack 10-15k off these figures for wherever he's teaching. more if it's a really shitty (directional) school |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:05 PM Author: multi-colored saffron locale marketing idea what kind of degree do biz prof get? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004201) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:05 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk a phd in business usually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004203) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:11 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field Earnings for college faculty vary according to rank and type of institution, geographic area, and field. According to a 2006-07 survey by the American Association of University Professors, salaries for full-time faculty averaged $73,207. By rank, the average was $98,974 for professors, $69,911 for associate professors, $58,662 for assistant professors, $42,609 for instructors, and $48,289 for lecturers. Faculty in 4-year institutions earn higher salaries, on average, than do those in 2-year schools. In 2006-07, faculty salaries averaged $84,249 in private independent institutions, $71,362 in public institutions, and $66,118 in religiously affiliated private colleges and universities. In fields with high-paying nonacademic alternatives—medicine, law, engineering, and business, among others—earnings exceed these averages. In others fields, such as the humanities and education, earnings are lower. Earnings for postsecondary career and technical education teachers vary widely by subject, academic credentials, experience, and region of the country.
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:15 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk you are one illiterate nignog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004276) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:24 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field you got pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004335) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:29 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk no, I said a) subtract 10-15k or a bit more for most schools, and b) your numbers are five years old. salaries have probably gone up around 10% by then as universities tend to raise more or less in line with inflation
again, you are an illiterate copy and paste pants on head george20 retard |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:11 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field right so he's making around 60K like I said (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004579) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:07 PM Author: aqua cuck personal credit line You're using a survey that includes 2 year colleges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004557) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:10 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field Faculty in 4-year institutions earn higher salaries, on average, than do those in 2-year schools. In 2006-07, faculty salaries averaged $84,249 in private independent institutions, $71,362 in public institutions, and $66,118 in religiously affiliated private colleges and universities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004575) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:12 PM Author: aqua cuck personal credit line Reread. Those are still combined numbers for 2 and 4 year schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004586) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:14 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field According to a 2006-07 survey by the American Association of University Professors, salaries for full-time faculty averaged $73,207. By rank, the average was $98,974 for professors, $69,911 for associate professors, $58,662 for assistant professors, $42,609 for instructors, and $48,289 for lecturers. Faculty in 4-year institutions earn higher salaries, on average, than do those in 2-year schools. In 2006-07, faculty salaries averaged $84,249 in private independent institutions, $71,362 in public institutions, and $66,118 in religiously affiliated private colleges and universities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004596) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:15 PM Author: aqua cuck personal credit line Right, it breaks out separate numbers for some factors that impact results like private vs. public status. It then mentions other factors that impact the results but aren't broken down into separate numbers like 2 vs. 4 year and field.
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:20 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field I guess I'm not sure what you're arguing. My estimate was 55-65K. The national average for assistants is 58K which includes a lot of different data points (different departments, X years of service, different kinds of schools, etc) but I think provides a fairly good estimate of what we can expect from a social science prof. This dude is in his first year, and the data is a bit old, so I think 55K-65K is a good guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004634) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:05 PM Author: Up-to-no-good hairy legs parlour entry level tenure track is about $40K in state schools and includes a 3-2 or 2-3 1st year teaching load in addition to getting 3 journal articles published before your 3rd year 1st major step review (the last review before you apply for tenure in yrs 4-5). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004205) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:08 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk 40k is what lecturers and shit at very crappy schools get paid, not assistants. 45-50k is a more realistic bottom floor for schools in the LSU tier (assuming english or something). MAYBE if it's humanities at a really terrible school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004224) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:09 PM Author: Up-to-no-good hairy legs parlour humanities at uga, ucf, and vmi. you are seriously underestimating the amount of graduating phds versus job openings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004233) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:12 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk of course there are far more phds. but the numbers are still off
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/University-of-South-Florida-Salaries-E33888.htm (48k at the very bottom)
UGA is the only school with a 40k bottom that I can find. LSU, which is certainly worse, is also a 48k base:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/LSU-Louisiana-State-University-Salaries-E2878.htm
even ECU (!) is 50:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/east-carolina-salary-SRCH_KE0,13.htm
southern illinois:
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/southern-illinois-salary-SRCH_KE0,17.htm |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:15 PM Author: Up-to-no-good hairy legs parlour i don't believe those numbers except uga. i happen to know a lot about this shit since my firm defends universities, well their board of trustees, from employment disc, unlawful termination, and whistleblower claims. salaries are like $38K to $45K first year, then when you become an assoc professor it's like $60-65K, then full professors get like $75-80K. then it goes up by cost of living adjustments (like auto 2.5%), running an admin committee like promotion & tenure, or becoming a dept chair or associate college dean. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004278) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:20 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk http://onlineathens.com/stories/041409/uga_428999881.shtml
i can't see UGA having a high enough engineering/science ratio to skew salaries heavily enough where the average (70k) is more than 20k higher than the average for humanities/non-econ social science |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:30 PM Author: Up-to-no-good hairy legs parlour the average is skewed by associate deans making $200k+ or provosts (250-300K) or profs paid $100K by the college and $100K by grants (ie. marky mark emeritus chair of epistemology, etc.)
factor $200K versus $45K and it's easy to see how average, rather than mean, skews numbers better than they are for tenure-track not yet tenured profs. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:31 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk huh? none of those numbers are going to affect the average for assistant profs
the only assistant profs making major bank are probably those in the bschool, and there are going to be comparatively very few of them |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:32 PM Author: Up-to-no-good hairy legs parlour do you have separate #s for assistants, associates, and fulls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004383) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:36 PM Author: fragrant sneaky criminal milk The average full professor at UGA earns $107,000 - a total pay package of $132,600, once benefits such as health insurance and retirement contributions are added.
Associate professors get $77,900 in salary, and assistant professors, the beginning level, make $71,300, according to the survey, released Monday by the AAUP. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:39 PM Author: Up-to-no-good hairy legs parlour no fucking way are assistants outside law, business, medicine, engineering making above $50K bro at state schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004418) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:16 PM Author: Mentally impaired lime degenerate field you're wrong fella. Just accept it and run along. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004609) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 7:17 PM Author: aqua cuck personal credit line Bros, this is all public info: http://www.open.georgia.gov/sta/search.aud (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004615) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:13 PM Author: adventurous mint double fault space It's probably public record. Just look it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004260) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:14 PM Author: bonkers ivory market gaming laptop I think it's 50-70k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982912&forum_id=2#21004270) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 6:40 PM Author: slimy garrison Check out this page (which was based on a recent survey):
http://chronicle.com/article/faculty-salaries-data-2012/131431
In the social sciences your friend's salary will probably be slightly lower than the average at his institution (perhaps significantly lower if the school has a large business school or engineering school or other school with higher faculty salaries). |