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GTO: A proposed course of action re: LSD [174]

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thriller roast beef
  01/10/07
Someone should at least start posting rumors of an XO takeov...
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/10/07
I will start this, but it has to be gradual, don't flood it ...
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
i will flood it.
slimy free-loading base
  01/10/07
you're a shitty troll
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
credited, but i get the job done. hth.
slimy free-loading base
  01/10/07
Have you done it yet?
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80...
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
now, one of you needs to go over and confirm the rumor
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
I did. [fwerp] Look what the idiot with the dog icon just...
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
i confirmed it
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
I have no idea how to value a website...how much would LSD g...
Soggy immigrant
  01/10/07
luckily, we won't be needing your valuation skills, :D.
slimy free-loading base
  01/10/07
Faggot.
Soggy immigrant
  01/10/07
Like kicking a retarded dog, eh?
appetizing station
  01/10/07
i guess someone got a fat tip yesterday at the GoldenWok, co...
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
as evidence, note that http://lsd.xoxohth.com/ has already b...
At-the-ready friendly grandma senate
  01/10/07
We should adduce this on LSD!
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
Damn, I really want someone to take the bait!
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80...
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
Damn it, LSD won't load for me anymore. Did I get IPBANNE...
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
me too :(
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
are you guys really banned for that?
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
no it loaded for me after i posted here
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
the admin was on top of you us :-(
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
I'm a moderator, not an admin. hth.
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
Argh, FOILED.
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
Next time, try building up a more believable schtick by actu...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
I don't know how unbelievable the schtick was. Surely, long...
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
I'll give you a hint: If they don't care enough to post in t...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
did you know my thread on crapping on your SO during sex has...
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
i like you
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
maybe he wants to come to our side and become a powerful sit...
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
Yeah, seriously groundhog. You could be a powerful ally.
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07
Never. I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
It's only a matter of time.
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
dude, why not? i am mean srsly do you think those douches wh...
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
lol at craigslist
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
This overlooks the high number of users on LSD that are atte...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
Of course there are top LSD posters. The point is that ther...
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
lol, i can't believe you fags are actually having a conversa...
orchid excitant property
  01/10/07
stfu strom
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
fuck you faggot.
orchid excitant property
  01/10/07
Extremely exaggerated. Most people on LSD, while optimists, ...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
well, yes, but they won't tell a person that it's not really...
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
It depends. If you want to be in biglaw, you may be right. B...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/10/07
meh, maybe, sure are a lot of personal anecdotes over there
multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate
  01/10/07
Yes. Some people like LSD because it is more personal.
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/10/07
LOL, my sig on LSD is 2.1 GPA/141 LSAT Chances at Chapman?
Harsh naked orchestra pit background story
  01/10/07
And xo doesn't have its fair share of idiots?
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
You can't talk to 174 like that on this board, bitch.
swollen fragrant police squad hunting ground
  01/11/07
lol
Arrogant Crotch
  01/11/07
Apparently xo has more compassion than LSDers usually give t...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
The difference is that XOXO has its share of idiots...but on...
Massive galvanic indirect expression
  01/11/07
I think you are underestimating LSD's realism, especially th...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/11/07
I am waiting to hear back from schools. My LSN is linked on ...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/11/07
Like I said, my LSN is pretty obvious, especially to someone...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/11/07
Nice edit.
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/11/07
yo u r so coollll
Arrogant Crotch
  01/11/07
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx...
thriller roast beef
  01/11/07
Well that was unwarranted. Anyway, I don't think biglaw is e...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
...
thriller roast beef
  01/12/07
LOL
orchid excitant property
  01/11/07
Date: January 10th, 2007 5:33 PM Author: Groundhog I'm a...
heady salmon stead
  01/11/07
like rach? big changes, hth.
orchid excitant property
  01/11/07
Being a mod doesn't require too much work. There is the occa...
comical boiling water gaping
  01/11/07
Nope, I'm able to access the page now.
histrionic parlour
  01/10/07


Poast new message in this thread





Date: January 10th, 2007 3:51 PM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390367)





Date: January 10th, 2007 3:54 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Someone should at least start posting rumors of an XO takeover on LSD.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390386)





Date: January 10th, 2007 3:59 PM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390413)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:01 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

I will start this, but it has to be gradual, don't flood it at first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390424)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:01 PM
Author: slimy free-loading base

i will flood it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390430)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:02 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

you're a shitty troll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390434)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:03 PM
Author: slimy free-loading base

credited, but i get the job done. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390439)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:11 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Have you done it yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390483)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:16 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80022.75.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390518)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:19 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

now, one of you needs to go over and confirm the rumor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390538)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:22 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

I did. [fwerp]

Look what the idiot with the dog icon just said:

"If LSD keeps being the same LSD I know and love, I'll use it no matter who ownes it. But, if it turns into another xoxo, I'll be the first to delete my account!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390558)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:31 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

i confirmed it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390639)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:04 PM
Author: Soggy immigrant

I have no idea how to value a website...how much would LSD go for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390448)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:06 PM
Author: slimy free-loading base

luckily, we won't be needing your valuation skills, :D.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390459)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:07 PM
Author: Soggy immigrant

Faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390469)





Date: January 10th, 2007 7:57 PM
Author: appetizing station

Like kicking a retarded dog, eh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391994)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:11 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

i guess someone got a fat tip yesterday at the GoldenWok, congrats on your extra $5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390484)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:21 PM
Author: At-the-ready friendly grandma senate

as evidence, note that http://lsd.xoxohth.com/ has already been reserved with ICANN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390556)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:23 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

We should adduce this on LSD!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390570)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:28 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Damn, I really want someone to take the bait!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390614)





Date: January 10th, 2007 4:31 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,80066.0.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390630)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:05 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Damn it, LSD won't load for me anymore.

Did I get IPBANNEDPWNED?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390909)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:16 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

me too :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7390987)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:27 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

are you guys really banned for that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391053)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:28 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

no it loaded for me after i posted here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391060)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:29 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

the admin was on top of you us :-(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391064)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:33 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

I'm a moderator, not an admin. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391102)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:35 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Argh, FOILED.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391118)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:38 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Next time, try building up a more believable schtick by actually posting a few dozen times. It's pretty obvious if you have four posts and they're all about xoxo, even to someone with TTT logical reasoning like me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391148)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:40 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

I don't know how unbelievable the schtick was. Surely, long time lurkers come out all the time when something raises their ire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391162)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:45 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

I'll give you a hint: If they don't care enough to post in the first place...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391193)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:35 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

did you know my thread on crapping on your SO during sex has gotten a lot of views. those lsders are a kinky lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391119)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:36 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

i like you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391133)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:37 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

maybe he wants to come to our side and become a powerful sith lord?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391141)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:41 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Yeah, seriously groundhog. You could be a powerful ally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391165)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:41 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Never. I'll never turn to the dark side. You've failed, your highness. I am a Jedi, like my father before me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391169)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:42 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

It's only a matter of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391177)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:43 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

dude, why not? i am mean srsly do you think those douches who got to schools like chapman will ever amount to anything?

we dont hate them we are trying to educate them so they dont get a jd from some online school based in san juan only to look for legal jobs off craigslist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391182)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:45 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

lol at craigslist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391194)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:48 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

This overlooks the high number of users on LSD that are attending T14s. A brief scan of the last 200 topics shows most of the topics are about Harvard, Michigan, or UVA.

Obviously not everyone can go to a T14. Besides the straw man that every other school should be closed or that only acceptance to the trinity is worth not killing self, at the very least xo posters should feel that people attending lower schools validate xo's "prestige".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391215)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:54 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

Of course there are top LSD posters. The point is that there seems to be a lack of willingness--not as bad as TLS--on their part to give straightforward information to poor applicants. Sometimes they do, but I think the real source of tension stems from LSD's extreme buddy-buddy nauseating hug-you-to-death attitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391270)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:00 PM
Author: orchid excitant property

lol, i can't believe you fags are actually having a conversation about this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391306)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:05 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

stfu strom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391330)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:11 PM
Author: orchid excitant property

fuck you faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391370)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:06 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Extremely exaggerated. Most people on LSD, while optimists, are not full of BS. If you have a 3.0 and 165 and are asking about your chances at Harvard, no one's going to sugarcoat it for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391336)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:07 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

well, yes, but they won't tell a person that it's not really a good idea to attend a non tier 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391347)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:14 PM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

It depends. If you want to be in biglaw, you may be right. But this overlooks a large proportion of people who don't care if their firm has a vault ranking, or just want to be the local PD/DA or be a JAG or something related to the law. This is why many people choose money at a "lower" school over prestige/ranking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391388)





Date: January 10th, 2007 6:31 PM
Author: multi-colored saffron indian lodge associate

meh, maybe, sure are a lot of personal anecdotes over there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391503)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:34 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Yes. Some people like LSD because it is more personal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394601)





Date: January 10th, 2007 7:56 PM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391980)





Date: January 10th, 2007 10:00 PM
Author: Harsh naked orchestra pit background story

LOL, my sig on LSD is 2.1 GPA/141 LSAT Chances at Chapman?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7392903)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:33 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

And xo doesn't have its fair share of idiots?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394596)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:45 AM
Author: swollen fragrant police squad hunting ground

You can't talk to 174 like that on this board, bitch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394636)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:51 AM
Author: Arrogant Crotch

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394652)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:53 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Apparently xo has more compassion than LSDers usually give them credit for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394656)





Date: January 11th, 2007 2:58 AM
Author: Massive galvanic indirect expression

The difference is that XOXO has its share of idiots...but only for 10 minutes each because they are promptly harassed, chided, and shamed off the board. It may not be the most humanitarian policy, but it does a good job of preventing people from making potentially disastrous decisions; no one will deny that the legal market has (and will be) oversaturated, and there really may be NO place in law for 2.5/140 applicants. It's a harsh reality, but a realty nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394666)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:00 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

I think you are underestimating LSD's realism, especially that of long-time posters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394674)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:06 AM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394692)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:35 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

I am waiting to hear back from schools. My LSN is linked on my LSD sig, though it should be obvious enough. Enjoy mocking my TTT credentials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394793)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:41 AM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394815)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:43 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Like I said, my LSN is pretty obvious, especially to someone with a superior LSAT such as yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394821)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:47 AM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394833)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:50 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Nice edit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394843)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:55 AM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394852)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:58 AM
Author: Arrogant Crotch

yo u r so coollll

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394861)





Date: January 11th, 2007 4:00 AM
Author: thriller roast beef

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394864)





Date: January 11th, 2007 5:40 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Well that was unwarranted. Anyway, I don't think biglaw is exactly out of reach for me, even if it's not guaranteed. On that note, it's not "my site," although I do moderate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394944)





Date: January 12th, 2007 12:38 AM
Author: thriller roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7401133)





Date: January 11th, 2007 4:20 AM
Author: orchid excitant property

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394907)





Date: January 11th, 2007 3:50 AM
Author: heady salmon stead

Date: January 10th, 2007 5:33 PM

Author: Groundhog

I'm a moderator, not an admin. hth.

---

How does it feel to work your ass off for free so someone else can make money off of you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394842)





Date: January 11th, 2007 4:21 AM
Author: orchid excitant property

like rach? big changes, hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394908)





Date: January 11th, 2007 7:21 AM
Author: comical boiling water gaping

Being a mod doesn't require too much work. There is the occasional reported post, but it only takes a second to clean up, and there are a handful at most per week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7394986)





Date: January 10th, 2007 5:28 PM
Author: histrionic parlour

Nope, I'm able to access the page now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=561222&forum_id=2#7391062)