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Does anyone else hate client contact?

I fucking hate clients and dealing with opposing counsel. I...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
aspie
Ocher exciting skinny woman
  05/23/13
So do transactional law...
histrionic stage
  05/23/13
Corp guys are often the ones who actually have clients.
Blue Range Cuckold
  05/23/13
I got this dipshit client who wants to micromanage everythin...
out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs
  05/23/13
I either work on fucking shit cases where I'm just trying to...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
I'm more selective at the front end but sometimes you can't.
out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs
  05/23/13
Are you in biglaw? How do you know a case is shit when the ...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
shitlaw
out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs
  05/23/13
Well I've been in biglaw so I have no ability to go out and ...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
your fears are overrated
out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs
  05/23/13
I'm sure there's something I could find on google, but fuck ...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
the key is weeding out shitty cases (I'm on contingency). I ...
out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs
  05/23/13
Sounds sweet. How soon till you float a settlement offer? ...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
Court-sponsored ADR is early in the process YNY
out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs
  05/23/13
for the most part i absolutely hate client contact. there ar...
Twinkling jap
  05/23/13
When the case sucks, it's rough. They don't want to admit t...
Comical well-lubricated telephone
  05/23/13
Dealing with pushy, aggressive customers in my current job h...
Mind-boggling striped hyena
  05/23/13
lol, just lol
Blue Range Cuckold
  05/23/13
why would anyone enjoy client contact?
chestnut toaster
  05/23/13
These people are lining up to put money in your pocket. They...
Mind-boggling striped hyena
  05/23/13
i understand that, but why would anyone enjoy actual client ...
chestnut toaster
  05/23/13
And that's why you'll never, ever make partner.
Mind-boggling striped hyena
  05/23/13
i have no desire to become partner at a law firm. haven...
chestnut toaster
  05/23/13
and another LJL
Blue Range Cuckold
  05/23/13
They are just sitting out there waiting to give you their m...
Ocher exciting skinny woman
  05/23/13
it was sad to see my shitlaw partner basically suck client's...
buck-toothed provocative tanning salon hissy fit
  05/23/13
client contact sucks as a first year (can you PLEASE sign th...
Geriatric topaz therapy
  05/23/13
It all depends on the situation. I HATED it at my last firm ...
Purple Center Halford
  05/23/13
(future doc review temp)
Blue Range Cuckold
  05/23/13
WTF? Client contact is the best - you bill as a client talk...
Poppy base
  05/23/13
Yeah, client contact is usually fun. Networking events, on ...
Orange abode community account
  05/23/13


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Date: May 23rd, 2013 12:53 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

I fucking hate clients and dealing with opposing counsel. I get sick when 2Ls come to interviews and talk about how they want client contact and court appearances and early experience writing and working a case. I wish I could just research minute points of law and then go home without thinking about the shitty case all night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253310)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 11:38 PM
Author: Ocher exciting skinny woman

aspie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23258858)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 12:54 AM
Author: histrionic stage

So do transactional law...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253317)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 10:29 AM
Author: Blue Range Cuckold

Corp guys are often the ones who actually have clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23254457)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 12:55 AM
Author: out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs

I got this dipshit client who wants to micromanage everything and won't give me the info I need

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253321)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 12:58 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

I either work on fucking shit cases where I'm just trying to hold my own until the other side floats a settlement offer, or I work on good cases and the client cuts all my fucking bills and asks why it costs so much to win such an easy case. Lit is fucking terrible. Transactional is also terrible though, because everyone has some banal fucking input or changes and some minutia can take forever to resolve because there's no filing deadline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253339)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 12:59 AM
Author: out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs

I'm more selective at the front end but sometimes you can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253349)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

Are you in biglaw? How do you know a case is shit when the partner walks in your office and asks "do you have some time to work on a case?" Also, I've been on pretty much the same "trial team" of 3-8 attorneys for the last few years, so the partner on the team knows when one of my cases has just ended.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253361)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:02 AM
Author: out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs

shitlaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253363)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:06 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

Well I've been in biglaw so I have no ability to go out and start my own firm. I was thinking the other day of not using my secretary for a month and just ask her how to do things. That way I'll know how to file shit and serve shit if/when I open my own firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253383)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:07 AM
Author: out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs

your fears are overrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253388)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:22 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

I'm sure there's something I could find on google, but fuck I assume I could do it on my own for a month and be fine. My billables would be up, to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253462)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:24 AM
Author: out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs

the key is weeding out shitty cases (I'm on contingency). I spend a lot of time early on looking ALL the relevant documents. If I've got a winner, that's almost money in the bank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253469)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:26 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

Sounds sweet. How soon till you float a settlement offer? I imagine you wouldn't want to do it too soon, but once I had one in the hopper, I'd be chomping at the bit to let loose an offer, because then I make my money. In biglaw it's the opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253480)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:29 AM
Author: out-of-control magenta box office hairy legs

Court-sponsored ADR is early in the process YNY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253488)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:01 AM
Author: Twinkling jap

for the most part i absolutely hate client contact. there are a few exceptions of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253357)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:05 AM
Author: Comical well-lubricated telephone

When the case sucks, it's rough. They don't want to admit they fucked up. This is especially true when the client doesn't have a general counsel, so you deal directly with a CEO/President, because they have huge egos and no one tells them no.

It's nice when your case is an easy winner. But clients are hard then, too.

The worst is opposing counsel. There's like one decent opposing counsel I've ever one with. The rest want to challenge fucking everything. It's unreal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253378)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:33 AM
Author: Mind-boggling striped hyena

Dealing with pushy, aggressive customers in my current job has prepared me well. If I ever become an attorney, this part will be a piece of cake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253497)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 10:30 AM
Author: Blue Range Cuckold

lol, just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23254460)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:36 AM
Author: chestnut toaster

why would anyone enjoy client contact?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253509)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:39 AM
Author: Mind-boggling striped hyena

These people are lining up to put money in your pocket. They should be treated like gold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253518)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:39 AM
Author: chestnut toaster

i understand that, but why would anyone enjoy actual client contact aside from the fact that they are lining your pockets?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253521)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:40 AM
Author: Mind-boggling striped hyena

And that's why you'll never, ever make partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253524)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 1:41 AM
Author: chestnut toaster

i have no desire to become partner at a law firm.

haven't you seen any of my other postings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253528)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 10:30 AM
Author: Blue Range Cuckold

and another LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23254463)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 11:40 PM
Author: Ocher exciting skinny woman

They are just sitting out there waiting to give you their money! Are you gonna take it? Are you man enough to take it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23258872)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 2:37 AM
Author: buck-toothed provocative tanning salon hissy fit

it was sad to see my shitlaw partner basically suck client's dick and overpromise a bunch of shit that i knew would result in me doing a lot more work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253683)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 2:45 AM
Author: Geriatric topaz therapy

client contact sucks as a first year (can you PLEASE sign this, asshole. We're going to blow the renewal of the license/default on your term loan/miss a milestone notice in a P&S if you don't - STOP FUCKING IGNORING ME - ok now you're going to answer and be a dick?)

It gets better with time and new tasks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23253704)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 10:26 AM
Author: Purple Center Halford

It all depends on the situation. I HATED it at my last firm where the client relationships with the firm were about as deep as a puddle and the partners were ultra sensitive to any possible thing that could go wrong with the client relationship.

But I really enjoy it at my new firm (well, not really new now, been here for 3+ years) where most of our clients have been clients for a long ass time and we have complete control over them. Whatever my partner says goes with them. He is like God in their eyes - can do no wrong. And I could totally fuck something up and my partner is like "no big deal I got your back". When you have that kind of freedom and security it becomes a lot more fun to talk with clients.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23254438)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 10:28 AM
Author: Blue Range Cuckold

(future doc review temp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23254452)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: Poppy base

WTF? Client contact is the best - you bill as a client talks about the weather and shit.

The best is when its the client + a bunch of others in a conference call. Take the call from your office and just fuck around online for half the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23258725)



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Date: May 23rd, 2013 11:53 PM
Author: Orange abode community account

Yeah, client contact is usually fun. Networking events, on the other hand, are horrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2263647&forum_id=2#23258970)