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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?

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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unles...
Glittery Shrine
  04/24/13
Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?
bearded out-of-control clown
  04/24/13
just sit down with him and run through all the problems with...
khaki heady sex offender locus
  04/24/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
Very important. What was the fuck up? If it was something...
cheese-eating institution trump supporter
  04/24/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks
henna idiotic newt
  04/24/13
180
cheese-eating institution trump supporter
  04/24/13
is he coming on after graduation?
Puce bateful black woman travel guidebook
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity.&quo...
soul-stirring hideous stage
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Curious Nighttime Brunch Nibblets
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?
bearded out-of-control clown
  04/24/13
only credited question in the entire thread
poppy party of the first part temple
  06/18/13
I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for h...
bright comical pistol useless brakes
  04/24/13
this
Bearded garrison
  04/24/13
titcr
anal forum
  04/24/13
180, especially this part: "Make sure he knows that ...
adulterous pea-brained brethren factory reset button
  04/25/13
i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?
metal seedy tanning salon
  06/18/13
are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. ...
Curious Nighttime Brunch Nibblets
  04/24/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shi...
olive thriller cumskin
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip e...
Azure Spot
  04/24/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  04/24/13
If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it i...
Clear Dopamine
  04/24/13
protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- ...
Curious Nighttime Brunch Nibblets
  04/25/13
I don't believe that you're a professional employment consul...
Azure Spot
  04/25/13
if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to...
cowardly pervert
  04/24/13
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sooty giraffe office
  04/25/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  06/18/13
Did he have a good reputation before this? It's hard to ...
Abusive Impertinent Indirect Expression Selfie
  06/18/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  06/18/13
what type of firm are you at? no doobs but it's kind of ...
poppy party of the first part temple
  06/18/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  06/18/13
gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?
poppy party of the first part temple
  06/18/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  06/18/13
so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potent...
poppy party of the first part temple
  06/18/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  06/18/13
How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath wo...
costumed frum piazza
  06/18/13
if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him ...
hairraiser feces point
  06/18/13
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iridescent cruise ship boistinker
  06/18/13
the way you described it made it seem like you told him exac...
hairraiser feces point
  06/18/13
How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish p...
Mildly autistic carnelian site
  06/18/13
Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?
transparent self-centered community account personal credit line
  06/18/13
School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn'...
histrionic idiot
  06/18/13


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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068369)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: Glittery Shrine

i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: bearded out-of-control clown

Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: khaki heady sex offender locus

just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068400)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: cheese-eating institution trump supporter

Very important. What was the fuck up?

If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.

But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.

Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.

I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.

Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068412)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: henna idiotic newt

lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: cheese-eating institution trump supporter

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: Puce bateful black woman travel guidebook

is he coming on after graduation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068390)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: soul-stirring hideous stage

"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."

You sound like a fucking boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068395)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: Curious Nighttime Brunch Nibblets



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068407)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: bearded out-of-control clown

How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM
Author: poppy party of the first part temple

only credited question in the entire thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: bright comical pistol useless brakes

I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: Bearded garrison

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM
Author: anal forum

titcr

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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: adulterous pea-brained brethren factory reset button

180, especially this part:

"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074226)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM
Author: metal seedy tanning salon

i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: Curious Nighttime Brunch Nibblets

are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.

the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068419)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: olive thriller cumskin

If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: Azure Spot

How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Clear Dopamine

If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.

Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.

I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068850)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Curious Nighttime Brunch Nibblets

protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: Azure Spot

I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM
Author: cowardly pervert

if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: sooty giraffe office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: Abusive Impertinent Indirect Expression Selfie

Did he have a good reputation before this?

It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424546)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: poppy party of the first part temple

what type of firm are you at?

no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424550)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: poppy party of the first part temple

gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: poppy party of the first part temple

so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: costumed frum piazza

How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: hairraiser feces point

if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM
Author: iridescent cruise ship boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424614)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: hairraiser feces point

the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424637)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: Mildly autistic carnelian site

How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: transparent self-centered community account personal credit line

Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: histrionic idiot

School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825)