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Just got my Oct score. Assess my chances.

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violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
I think you're in a pretty unique situation here. Just look...
Maize codepig
  10/22/04
hm..yes, English is my second language. But I am an Asian, s...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
Is there any sort of TOEFL requirement for ESL LS applicants...
Maize codepig
  10/22/04
apply early to GW. Probably the best reputation in the coun...
Cracking Juggernaut Dysfunction
  10/22/04
I would be more than happy with GW since their IP program to...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
i bet you'll do just fine. you're a smart guy; they'll figu...
soul-stirring clear hairy legs
  10/22/04
thanks dude :-)
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
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Cracking Juggernaut Dysfunction
  10/22/04
thanks again! Are you in GW now?
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
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Cracking Juggernaut Dysfunction
  10/22/04
sweet
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
when you have a split like that, its going to be a hit and m...
Narrow-minded Comical Internal Respiration
  10/22/04
yes, in fact, I am thinking about applying to almost all sch...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
i'd say applying to the top 6 is a waste of cash but if that...
Narrow-minded Comical Internal Respiration
  10/22/04
I think I still have around 1-3% chance for top 10. Worth th...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
i edited because i really am not sure how school deal with i...
Narrow-minded Comical Internal Respiration
  10/22/04
I'd apply to as many of the top 30 as you can afford to appl...
dashing rehab candlestick maker
  10/22/04
thanks, this is helpful.
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
I think Northwestern is the only top ranked school where you...
dashing rehab candlestick maker
  10/22/04
maybe you should have spent less time doing math and more ti...
Cerebral Electric Furnace Ceo
  10/22/04
I don't think getting a 161 with 6 years of english educatio...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
With his/her intelligence level it's pretty tragic. All this...
Cerebral Electric Furnace Ceo
  10/22/04
I don't think it is that simple. As least, not when I compar...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
MAKE SURE YOU APPLY TO GEORGETOWN PT. Good luck.
Passionate navy stage cuckold
  10/22/04
they give full time credit, but not a F-1 Visa. so, unless I...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
your situation is what's wrong with the application process
smoky cowardly whorehouse nowag
  10/22/04
this made me feel better :) But I still don't want to go to...
violet senate national security agency
  10/22/04
Don't get sucked into this board's thinking that anything no...
Maize codepig
  10/22/04
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plum fighting range
  12/19/04


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Date: October 22nd, 2004 7:10 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533299)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 7:30 PM
Author: Maize codepig

I think you're in a pretty unique situation here. Just looking at straight numbers, that LSAT is a huge disadvantage. However, you've obviously proven yourself in some pretty taxing programs.

Also, I'm inferring from "As a foreign student..." that you're a URM? Or at least that English is your 2nd language? If that's the case, I'd find some way to weave that into my PS. I mean, make it the centerpiece of your PS. Don't be afraid to hit the admissions staff over the head with it.

Just on straight numbers, you're probably looking Top 20-30. However, I'd bet that you're going to find at least a few T14's that will look past the LSAT. I know Berkeley is notorious for favoring high GPA/lowish LSAT splits

good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533422)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 7:33 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

hm..yes, English is my second language. But I am an Asian, so I don't know whether they will forgive me for that..



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533450)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 7:41 PM
Author: Maize codepig

Is there any sort of TOEFL requirement for ESL LS applicants? Regardless, I think that basing your PS on the challenges you've overcome learning the language and doing well (er... great) in school already demonstrates that you're going to do the same in LS is the route to go

Otherwise, 161 doesn't look so hot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533487)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:12 PM
Author: Cracking Juggernaut Dysfunction

apply early to GW. Probably the best reputation in the country for patent law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533885)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:13 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

I would be more than happy with GW since their IP program tops. But my 161.... :(



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533888)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:15 PM
Author: soul-stirring clear hairy legs

i bet you'll do just fine. you're a smart guy; they'll figure that out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533893)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:18 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

thanks dude :-)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533907)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:20 PM
Author: Cracking Juggernaut Dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533914)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:21 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

thanks again! Are you in GW now?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533916)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:23 PM
Author: Cracking Juggernaut Dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533931)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:27 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

sweet



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533952)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:15 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Comical Internal Respiration

when you have a split like that, its going to be a hit and miss application process. I'd apply to a lot of places. I think you'll definitely get into a top 20, and maybe a few, but I couldn't really say which ones. I'd throw in apps to ever school you like in the 15-35 range.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533892)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:17 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

yes, in fact, I am thinking about applying to almost all schools in top 30 :)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533902)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:18 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Comical Internal Respiration

i'd say applying to the top 6 is a waste of cash but if that's not a concern for you, go for it. But other than that, go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533909)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:19 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

I think I still have around 1-3% chance for top 10. Worth the money

EDIT : I see that you have edited from top 10 to top 6. I agree with that, but I will just waste my $$$ :)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533910)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:22 PM
Author: Narrow-minded Comical Internal Respiration

i edited because i really am not sure how school deal with international students. If you weren't international, you would have no shot at the top 10. But in your case, you may.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533921)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:30 PM
Author: dashing rehab candlestick maker

I'd apply to as many of the top 30 as you can afford to apply to. The fact that you're foreign should make you a diversity candidate, make sure you make it perfectly clear on the application that you're from Asia, not Asian-American.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533964)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:42 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

thanks, this is helpful.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1534048)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:52 PM
Author: dashing rehab candlestick maker

I think Northwestern is the only top ranked school where you have a fighting chance, b/c of your background- NU loves professionals. But you should apply to all the top schools except maybe HYS. You wouldn't be the first person to get in with your numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1534110)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:14 PM
Author: Cerebral Electric Furnace Ceo

maybe you should have spent less time doing math and more time learning fucking english!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533891)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:16 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

I don't think getting a 161 with 6 years of english education is too bad.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533896)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:22 PM
Author: Cerebral Electric Furnace Ceo

With his/her intelligence level it's pretty tragic. All this person had to do was learn to read properly, definitely something that could be done within the first year of schooling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533919)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:23 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

I don't think it is that simple. As least, not when I compare with my fellow foreigners. But I agree that my LSAT score is a TTT.

EDIT : "I" posted the previous reply.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533928)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:24 PM
Author: Passionate navy stage cuckold

MAKE SURE YOU APPLY TO GEORGETOWN PT.

Good luck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533935)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:25 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

they give full time credit, but not a F-1 Visa. so, unless I work, I can't apply there.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533943)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:29 PM
Author: smoky cowardly whorehouse nowag
Subject: your situation is what's wrong with the application process

I cannot fathom how the adcomms can look at someone who has logged as many years as you have with proven fantastic numbers - come on, a 3.89 ANYWHERE in almost ANY subject is impressive - but the fact that they could shrug that off and instantly put an application like that in a 25%-or-less-admitted category for a dumbass three-hour exam blows my mind.

Tell anyone on the street - or academia - that GPA and one if not both eyebrows raise: "Hey, you must be DAMNED smart." Then tell an adcomm member the same: "Oh, but a 161? Good luck at Cooley."

Just venting. Apply to all the top schools anyway. It still shocks me that this exam counts so heavily. They should have a GPA cutoff above which applicants need not take the asshole LSAT (except for bogus majors).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533962)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:34 PM
Author: violet senate national security agency

this made me feel better :)

But I still don't want to go to a TTT!!!! :(



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1533993)





Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:39 PM
Author: Maize codepig

Don't get sucked into this board's thinking that anything non-HYSCCN is TTT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1534036)





Date: December 19th, 2004 8:41 PM
Author: plum fighting range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97852&forum_id=2#1816768)