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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068369) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: cerebral irate candlestick maker i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: vengeful striped hyena Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM Author: vivacious hunting ground just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM Author: maize house
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM Author: laughsome garnet electric furnace abode Very important. What was the fuck up?
If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.
But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.
Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.
I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.
Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT. |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068428) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM Author: Mind-boggling trailer park mexican lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM Author: laughsome garnet electric furnace abode 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472) |
Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: arrogant stead is he coming on after graduation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068390) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM Author: Glassy insane step-uncle's house toaster "....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."
You sound like a fucking boomer. |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM Author: primrose racy telephone point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068407) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068408) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM Author: vengeful striped hyena How much does he get paid? How large is the firm? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM Author: irradiated patrolman principal's office only credited question in the entire thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM Author: hairraiser ocher nursing home I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM Author: Talented umber pisswyrm national security agency this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM Author: infuriating pit titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068870) |
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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM Author: Purple theater 180, especially this part:
"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now" |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM Author: Sienna stag film queen of the night i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM Author: primrose racy telephone point are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.
the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it. |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM Author: provocative corn cake If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM Author: Chestnut passionate shrine How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM Author: sable filthy theater stage If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.
Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.
I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.
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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM Author: primrose racy telephone point protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285) |
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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM Author: Chestnut passionate shrine I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327) |
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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM Author: Crusty box office yarmulke if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867) |
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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM Author: wonderful codepig lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM Author: Shimmering Institution Did he have a good reputation before this?
It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you. |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM Author: irradiated patrolman principal's office what type of firm are you at?
no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever. |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM Author: irradiated patrolman principal's office gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM Author: irradiated patrolman principal's office so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM Author: Talking liquid oxygen How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM Author: Crawly bisexual senate scourge upon the earth if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM Author: maize house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424614) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM Author: Crawly bisexual senate scourge upon the earth the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM Author: Bright Bespoke Parlor How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM Author: Slimy casino Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748) |
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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM Author: hot excitant selfie School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825) |