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Got yelled at for sending an email to a client. FML.

Two weeks ago, a nerdy litigation partner asked me to work o...
aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth
  05/04/13
Sorry brehlet / time to lateral
Pearly Lascivious Nursing Home
  05/07/13
You're one of the worst posters in XO history. I hope you ne...
aggressive skinny woman
  05/04/13
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laughsome chestnut rehab weed whacker
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Why?
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vivacious costumed brunch circlehead
  05/04/13
lol wtf haterade sipping mofucka, leave icy blowdude ALONE
pink beady-eyed idiot
  05/07/13
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Trip Ungodly Mediation Stage
  05/07/13
shoulda brought your Roscoe
Spectacular pungent old irish cottage
  05/04/13
lol this thread is delivering for me
Trip Ungodly Mediation Stage
  05/07/13
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Big mad cow disease stead
  05/04/13
check your blackberry. not only are you a loose canon, but ...
floppy house mad-dog skullcap
  05/04/13
Damn brother. I do the exact same thing as you. I'm not that...
Learning Disabled Flirting Psychic
  05/04/13
Debt is around $150K. Right now I think my exit strategy is ...
Odious magenta rigpig church
  05/04/13
Um... Is Icy Blowlude your nighttime Tyler Durden persona or...
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  05/04/13
fresh prince
Yapping Persian
  05/04/13
wtf, how do you include someone else's name in the From line...
Violent Degenerate
  05/04/13
titcq
mustard mexican newt
  05/04/13
i think NLP wanted the shit sent to him, so that he could se...
Ruby Cocky School Cafeteria
  05/04/13
Cq
cracking insane garrison
  05/04/13
i was just thinking it was something i've never tried before...
massive sanctuary
  05/04/13
Yeah I don't get this either. Is OP trying to say the part...
Yellow Overrated Resort
  05/04/13
this was my question when reading this.
fighting kitchen
  05/04/13
I can see this spiraling massively out of control. You ha...
Aqua razzmatazz stage
  05/07/13
Genuine LOL. I imagine a crowd of lawyers gathering around a...
bossy gaping
  05/07/13
i think this is some classic howard stern reverse pwn#d big ...
arousing menage
  05/07/13
cq
sooty incel trailer park
  06/04/13
Good post.
french claret theatre hominid
  05/04/13
If he hadn't asked you to put him in the "To" line...
Judgmental institution people who are hurt
  05/04/13
Ya, if not flame you needed to man up b/c that is just not c...
jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe
  05/04/13
weird flame. how can you send shit "from" the part...
Balding deranged volcanic crater
  05/04/13
No they can make it appear as if they sent it, too. I don't...
jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe
  05/04/13
Depends on if you have "SendAs" or "Sendonbeh...
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  05/04/13
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avocado heady fat ankles keepsake machete
  05/04/13
Ya... Fuckup = not sending directly to an unknown partner...
jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe
  05/04/13
sounds like he was a boss in hs tho amirite
autistic titillating public bath french chef
  05/04/13
You don't have to rub it in :-/
Odious magenta rigpig church
  05/04/13
This is such a fixable issue though if you (1) first talk to...
jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe
  05/04/13
I already feel like such a beta. Can't stomach the thought o...
aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth
  05/04/13
lol not true at all. some aprtners you have to stand up to, ...
Trip Ungodly Mediation Stage
  05/07/13
lol
histrionic hospital
  05/04/13
Any thought to whether or not I should pay for my new 51 inc...
soul-stirring brass legend
  05/04/13
Get points bro. 51? Sounds like a samsung size. I hope yo...
jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe
  05/04/13
I think the best response to make to this sort of abusive be...
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Odious magenta rigpig church
  05/04/13
I'd just go in and talk to him and apologize and tell him yo...
Magical pontificating death wish dopamine
  05/04/13
Man. If you make partner can you run your mouth at him a...
Bat shit crazy lemon marketing idea national
  05/04/13
Sounds like your job sucks if you can't email at will, breh.
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aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth
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you still smoking that K2?
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  06/03/13
Nah man. I finally found a good source for the real thing.
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  06/04/13
Those don't sound like clients we would like to have.
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  06/04/13
That flame can only be done in 2 threads a year, Bro.
180 Mahogany Step-uncle's House Elastic Band
  06/04/13
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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:08 AM
Author: aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth

Two weeks ago, a nerdy litigation partner asked me to work on a private equity investment for one of his clients. Simple enough, right? I’m a fifth-year associate and regarded as a competent transactional attorney. I’m not the class rock star, but I’ve been told I’m “very much in the hunt for partnership.”

Sounds exciting, but being in the hunt actually makes your life worse because you have to care what partners think of you. In other words, you have to make partners like you. And if they don’t? Well, you have to obsess over the fact they don’t like you and then do everything in your power to change their minds. Even when they’re dicks. Even when they scream at you for “CC-ing” them on an email rather than including them in the “From” line. That’s right, Nerdy Litigation partner yelled at me like I was his prison bitch because I didn’t include his name in the goddamn “From” line.

“This is reckless and thoughtless behavior!” he said, his tiny jaw twitching with petulance.

Here are the facts: Last Wednesday, I sent a draft term sheet to the client and CC-ed Nerdy Litigation Partner. It’s the kind of thing I do twenty times a day. I didn’t even think twice about it. Call me crazy, but that’s how I roll. Ten minutes later, NLP was in my office yelling.

“You don’t CC me. Understand?!”

“I’m sorry,” I said. I know, I’m a pussy. But I’m in the hunt. What am I supposed to do, ruin my career? But NLP didn’t give a rat’s ass about my apology.

“Every single piece of correspondence that goes to this client comes from me. Got it?! ”

I just looked at him. My heart was thumping. If we were in high school, I would have already thrown my first punch.

“I’m not sure I understand,” I said, with an deferential faux confusion associates in the hunt employ when asshole partners are screaming at them for no reason.

“The client needs to know that I’m integrally involved in this transaction and not just overseeing some junior associate’s work product. Understand now, or was that too abstract for you?! ”

I didn’t respond. I just stared at him, until he walked out.

Here’s the worst part: NLP is actually kind of important and now he hates me. He told an associate friend of mine the next day that I was a “loose cannon.”

A loose fucking cannon?! Really?! Because of a stupid CC! Really?! Just thinking about this makes me insane! I’ve worked my ass off for five years, and this petty son of a bitch is going to compromise—or flat out ruin—my chance at partner over this!?

If I didn’t have a fat student loan tab, I would have kicked his chubby ass right then and there. (Yes, I’m exaggerating. A little. And yes, I’m angry as hell and completely irrational. You would be too, if you were in the hunt and some d-bag called you out for something so petty.)

It’s times like these that I’m really glad I went to a top-five school, made law review and billed 2100 hours a year for the past five years. Now I suppose that the only good news about no longer being in the hunt is that I don’t have to care what assholes like NLP think of me anymore. So in a way, this whole Cc debacle was a victory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131737)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: Pearly Lascivious Nursing Home

Sorry brehlet / time to lateral

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150466)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:11 AM
Author: aggressive skinny woman

You're one of the worst posters in XO history. I hope you never discover a truly painless suicide method.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131744)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:11 AM
Author: laughsome chestnut rehab weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131745)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 5:12 AM
Author: aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth

Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131746)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:15 AM
Author: vivacious costumed brunch circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132259)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:48 AM
Author: pink beady-eyed idiot

lol wtf haterade sipping mofucka, leave icy blowdude ALONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150470)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:51 AM
Author: Trip Ungodly Mediation Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150497)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 8:58 AM
Author: Spectacular pungent old irish cottage

shoulda brought your Roscoe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131938)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:52 AM
Author: Trip Ungodly Mediation Stage

lol this thread is delivering for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150499)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:10 AM
Author: Big mad cow disease stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131960)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:10 AM
Author: floppy house mad-dog skullcap

check your blackberry. not only are you a loose canon, but you have a misplaced comma in this email you sent me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131961)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:11 AM
Author: Learning Disabled Flirting Psychic

Damn brother. I do the exact same thing as you. I'm not that familiar with Outlook, but if the client responds, will the partner get the response from the client? So in other words, will the CC-ed people get the response?

Your partner sounds like some douche I used to work for. He would get irritated over the smallest fucking things. Whenever I had put a section symbol, I always needed to put a non-breaking space. I once forgot to put a non-breaking space, and he flipped out as if I completely botched the job. These guys are insufferable, and likely projecting their inner frustration or insecurities onto you.

What is your exit strategy? How much debt?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131963)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:07 AM
Author: Odious magenta rigpig church

Debt is around $150K. Right now I think my exit strategy is to buy a food truck or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132222)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 3:56 PM
Author: Alcoholic parlour milk

Um... Is Icy Blowlude your nighttime Tyler Durden persona or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133692)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:18 AM
Author: Yapping Persian

fresh prince

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23131980)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:45 AM
Author: Violent Degenerate

wtf, how do you include someone else's name in the From line? flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132041)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:51 AM
Author: mustard mexican newt

titcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132057)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:10 AM
Author: Ruby Cocky School Cafeteria

i think NLP wanted the shit sent to him, so that he could send it to the client

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132238)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: cracking insane garrison

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132459)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: massive sanctuary

i was just thinking it was something i've never tried before and it was possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132690)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:01 PM
Author: Yellow Overrated Resort

Yeah I don't get this either.

Is OP trying to say the partner was MAF that he didn't send it to the partner for review before it goes to the client?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132806)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:04 PM
Author: fighting kitchen

this was my question when reading this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132827)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:57 AM
Author: Aqua razzmatazz stage

I can see this spiraling massively out of control.

You have received an e-mail from 33 people. Would you like to reply?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150535)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:17 PM
Author: bossy gaping

Genuine LOL. I imagine a crowd of lawyers gathering around a desktop comp all contributing to an email.

"Dear Frank, we all decided to write this...."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150870)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: arousing menage

i think this is some classic howard stern reverse pwn#d big willie style or however it went

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150902)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 6:20 PM
Author: sooty incel trailer park

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23330472)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 9:55 AM
Author: french claret theatre hominid

Good post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132067)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:00 AM
Author: Judgmental institution people who are hurt

If he hadn't asked you to put him in the "To" line instead of the "CC" line beforehand, that's a shitty move on his part and you should call him out. Just tell him next time you do something wrong, he should tell you so you can correct it going forward instead of yelling at you for not being able to predict what will rile him up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132078)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:24 AM
Author: jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe

Ya, if not flame you needed to man up b/c that is just not common practice.

I woulda sent the TS to him first though for a review before send to client and if he wanted to fwd and pass it off on his own fine enough.

At my firm like only secretarys had access to the partners inbox and can send emails "From" them --- associates don't. I know a few partners who have them do that but its always routine shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132116)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:29 AM
Author: Balding deranged volcanic crater

weird flame. how can you send shit "from" the partner? when secretaries do that, doesn' it say like "from X, on behalf of Y"? I didn't even know it was possible to send shit "from" other people. how can that be? obviously partners dont want you to be able to send shit from their account. makes no fucking sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132123)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:31 AM
Author: jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe

No they can make it appear as if they sent it, too. I don't know how. But ya its fucked up yo. The best part is they also can see the inbox, and I've cozied up to a few secys and got some neat email gossip.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132125)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:17 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring frum space pistol

Depends on if you have "SendAs" or "Sendonbehalfof" permissions

i'm in IT and it seems to me like giving associates SendAs permissions to partners' mailboxes would be a massive compliance no-no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132266)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:43 AM
Author: avocado heady fat ankles keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132144)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:55 AM
Author: jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe

Ya...

Fuckup = not sending directly to an unknown partner outside of practice group for review before sending to client. But no biggie because that is what you do in your world.

Failed test = cowering, esp to a litigator.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132181)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:07 AM
Author: autistic titillating public bath french chef

sounds like he was a boss in hs tho amirite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132226)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:08 AM
Author: Odious magenta rigpig church

You don't have to rub it in :-/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132231)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:13 AM
Author: jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe

This is such a fixable issue though if you (1) first talk to your group leader and explain and tell him you want to make amends with lit partner (2) go to lit partner and talk it out and apologise or whatever smooths his feathers.

(1) is important so your back is covered.

If you want to make partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132252)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth

I already feel like such a beta. Can't stomach the thought of approaching NLP with my tail between my legs. :-/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132440)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 11:55 AM
Author: Trip Ungodly Mediation Stage

lol not true at all. some aprtners you have to stand up to, some p[artners you MUST NOT stand up to. If youve worked in biglaw I'd be shocked if you've never encountered a partner of the second variety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150517)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 10:50 AM
Author: histrionic hospital

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132165)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:36 PM
Author: soul-stirring brass legend

Any thought to whether or not I should pay for my new 51 inch plasma TV on my Amex or go with debit card?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132680)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 1:39 PM
Author: jet-lagged multi-billionaire sweet tailpipe

Get points bro. 51? Sounds like a samsung size. I hope you are getting the F8500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133022)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 12:54 PM
Author: infuriating orchestra pit pisswyrm

I think the best response to make to this sort of abusive behavior is just to stay quiet and subtly make the "unimpressed" face at them: http://www.arteworks.biz/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/unimpressed.jpg

The fun is wondering if they'll catch on.

Then at the end of the tirade just say "understood" crisply and try to dart off like a busy bee with someplace to go. No admission that you've done anything wrong (you haven't), but still acting pretty blandly unobjectionable. For extra points, try to throw in something randomly obsequious, like a bow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23132762)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 2:26 AM
Author: big-titted piazza goyim

well aren't you just one funny feminist. jezebel personified. i like how you had to explain the punchline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23327726)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 3:54 PM
Author: Odious magenta rigpig church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133677)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 4:03 PM
Author: Magical pontificating death wish dopamine

I'd just go in and talk to him and apologize and tell him you'll do it his way moving forward.

There's no need to worry about this more than an apology and moving on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23133720)



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Date: May 4th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy lemon marketing idea national

Man.

If you make partner can you run your mouth at him and tell him to lick your balls when you do?

Also seems like a lot of these dudes are just power tripping cause they would have gotten their ass beat talking like that to anyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23134345)



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Date: May 7th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: pink beady-eyed idiot

Sounds like your job sucks if you can't email at will, breh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23150568)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:57 PM
Author: rusted razzle water buffalo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325735)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:56 PM
Author: aphrodisiac rose pozpig ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325719)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:58 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal opaque affirmative action

you still smoking that K2?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325744)



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Date: June 3rd, 2013 9:58 PM
Author: Odious magenta rigpig church

Nah man. I finally found a good source for the real thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23325749)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 1:17 AM
Author: Odious magenta rigpig church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23327472)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: primrose hairraiser therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23327777)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 10:34 AM
Author: Mauve Bespoke Church Building

Should've told him you aren't his wife and too watch his fucking tone.

Also, his concern about the email always coming from his is TCR. Some clients demand this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23328255)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 6:25 PM
Author: sooty incel trailer park

Those don't sound like clients we would like to have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23330484)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:16 PM
Author: 180 Mahogany Step-uncle's House Elastic Band

That flame can only be done in 2 threads a year, Bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2246963&forum_id=2#23331992)



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Date: June 4th, 2013 11:18 PM
Author: Lime theater stage main people

what kind of retarded client only accepts shit from the partner? You realize that just runs up the bill right?

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