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Do Italians know Mexico invented the tomato?

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irate parlor
  09/03/25
I thought it was from Peru or Colombia
Big national
  09/03/25
Potatoes are from Peru. Colombia had no pre-columbian civili...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
Colonial era European physicians were probably correct about...
Big national
  09/03/25
the leaves *are* poisonous
Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
Eggplant as well for this matter
Big national
  09/03/25
cr
Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
Eating too many tomatoes in one sitting has some kind of ver...
Big national
  09/03/25
Aztecs strictly limited how much pulque you could drink. I t...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
That tracks as pulque is highly fermented and probiotic and ...
Big national
  09/03/25
Lines up with my experiences. First glass was refreshing. Se...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
You're really not supposed to drink more than one a day iirc...
Big national
  09/03/25
Maybe it was one per day. I read it on a plaque at the NMA s...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
Chewing a garlic clove in honey a couple times a day helps w...
Big national
  09/03/25
its funny how almost all food today isnt actually that old, ...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
euros literally ate gruel every day for thousands of years
Fiercely-loyal rough-skinned menage
  09/03/25
Roman feasts were 180, the upper class ones were
plum lay
  09/03/25
he said euros, romans were sand ppl
aromatic range
  09/03/25
Not only were Romans not sand people but the territories the...
Big national
  09/03/25
its hilarous how sensitive birdshits are to saying ancient r...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
They didn't look like blonde nordics and this is well docume...
Big national
  09/03/25
Grain porridges are 180 ime
Big national
  09/03/25
birdhsits dont even understand their own history, they liter...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
Charlemagne would like a word with you
Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
Too bad he's illiterate
irate parlor
  09/03/25
the nigga with the radio show?
aromatic range
  09/03/25
Modern day Greeks are only as olive skinned as they are from...
Big national
  09/03/25
they were in the sun all day, its pretty unlikely they wld b...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
If you look at pretty much any piece of Byzantine era art yo...
Big national
  09/03/25
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Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
Yes, dark-skinned figures appear in ancient Roman paintings,...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
and its geography, if birdshits are so great why didnt ancie...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
Yeah I'm sure slavery had no effect on their demographics, S...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
where can i eat gruel today?
crawly copper tanning salon filthpig
  09/03/25
Your home kitchen I use pearled barley cooked into a porrid...
Big national
  09/03/25
*THE* archetypal Thai dish, pad thai, was invented in the 19...
Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
butter chicken and chicken tikka masala all new in last like...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
a written recipe for pad krapow (the Thai thing made of frie...
Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
The only thing I eat in Asia is the fried rice. You can't fu...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
there's some great food in that part of the world that you'r...
Insecure spectacular resort
  09/03/25
ljl i cld understand fried rice in indo cause some of the re...
aromatic range
  09/03/25
Indonesia has rawon and rendang and there's nothing even rem...
irate parlor
  09/03/25
"invented the tomato"
plum lay
  09/03/25
Eureka! Behold my latest invention
Pale meetinghouse multi-billionaire
  09/03/25
Emperor Montezuma II created the first tomato through parthe...
Big national
  09/03/25
Avocado means testicle in Nahuatl
irate parlor
  09/04/25
The ancient Greek referred to nightshade plants.
arousing flushed son of senegal incel
  09/03/25
If Greece had tomatoes everyone would have gotten them from ...
irate parlor
  09/04/25
Tomatoes existed for millions of years potatoes evolved f...
Lascivious mauve sound barrier
  09/03/25
Tomatoes were domesticated in America; however, the original...
irate parlor
  09/04/25
I guess that's why their names are similar.
aqua unhinged preventive strike principal's office
  09/04/25
i think a lot of people imagine china having hot spicy food ...
Sticky Fragrant Stage
  09/03/25
Yeah. They had black pepper but that's as spicy as it got
irate parlor
  09/04/25


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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: irate parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233627)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Big national

I thought it was from Peru or Colombia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233637)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: irate parlor

Potatoes are from Peru. Colombia had no pre-columbian civilization, it was all jungle tribes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233650)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Big national

Colonial era European physicians were probably correct about the Tomato being poisonous for whites in many different preparations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233658)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort

the leaves *are* poisonous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233665)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: Big national

Eggplant as well for this matter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233674)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233678)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Big national

Eating too many tomatoes in one sitting has some kind of very slight but unpleasant psychoactive effect on the system ime. They also don't digest all that well if eaten without a fibrous grain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233684)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: irate parlor

Aztecs strictly limited how much pulque you could drink. I think it was was two servings per day with stiff consequences if you drank more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233690)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Big national

That tracks as pulque is highly fermented and probiotic and would probably severely throw the GI biome off of calibration if had in excess, like kombucha. Would probably be a serious long term issue in an era without modern medical science too

I think pulque in particular was also supposed to be a ritual drink and not an everyday beverage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233700)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: irate parlor

Lines up with my experiences. First glass was refreshing. Second glass was my last of the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233713)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Big national

You're really not supposed to drink more than one a day iirc but it is very "moreish" as a beverage. I have maybe one or two a week now and mostly went back to tea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233746)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: irate parlor

Maybe it was one per day. I read it on a plaque at the NMA so I don't have a reference in front of me. I'd have to be pretty depressed to drink it daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233754)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Big national

Chewing a garlic clove in honey a couple times a day helps with biome imbalance from kombucha overindulgence (and also keeps the dentist away by killing the bacteria responsible for dental caries)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233776)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: aromatic range

its funny how almost all food today isnt actually that old, idiots just assume the french, indians, japs were eating same shit 1000 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233704)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal rough-skinned menage

euros literally ate gruel every day for thousands of years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233735)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: plum lay

Roman feasts were 180, the upper class ones were

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233743)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: aromatic range

he said euros, romans were sand ppl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233794)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: Big national

Not only were Romans not sand people but the territories they occupied on the northern coast of Africa such as Carthage or the Maghreb were also mostly fair skinned. St Augustine was supposed to be pale and he was born in Northern Africa iirc

The Mediterranean coast of Africa didn't become dark until droughts and conflicts causes population movements from the south to push Berbers and various other future Islamic tribes north to displace the Roman/Phoenician/Hellenic Egyptian populations that had settled that area for centuries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233853)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: aromatic range

its hilarous how sensitive birdshits are to saying ancient romans and greeks werent BIRDSHITS. i meant birdshit as the PHENOTYPE is viewed today. these fags were mediterrean cultures, they were in the hot sun all day. the idea they wld look like a british or norway faggot is lolzy bullshit. they were hairy as furk too. u literally wld call them pajeet if u saw them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233865)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Big national

They didn't look like blonde nordics and this is well documented in historical accounts at the time but they were also not hairy and were fairly fair skinned and of moderate height

Many European whites can be in the sun regularly and not become any darker than maybe a brass complexion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233876)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: Big national

Grain porridges are 180 ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233748)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:05 PM
Author: aromatic range

birdhsits dont even understand their own history, they literally were cavemen pre 1600ad, they had no great civs (rome and greece = SAND NIGGA)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233792)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort

Charlemagne would like a word with you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233811)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: irate parlor

Too bad he's illiterate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233824)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: aromatic range

the nigga with the radio show?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233867)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Big national

Modern day Greeks are only as olive skinned as they are from occupations

Classical Greeks and the Romans were both fair skinned. Swarthy Italians are mostly Sicilian and this comes from Arab admixture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233814)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: aromatic range

they were in the sun all day, its pretty unlikely they wld be considered birdshit by modern standards, if u see an italian today some look totally nigga skinned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233816)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:13 PM
Author: Big national

If you look at pretty much any piece of Byzantine era art you'll notice that the depictions of people are all extremely fair skinned to the point of having a porcelain or pearl colored complexion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233826)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233829)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:23 PM
Author: aromatic range

Yes, dark-skinned figures appear in ancient Roman paintings, such as the Severan Tondo, which depicts Emperor Septimius Severus with distinctly dark skin, demonstrating that the empire's diverse population was reflected in its art

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233871)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: aromatic range

and its geography, if birdshits are so great why didnt ancient rome or athens happens in london or oslo or paris?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233819)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: irate parlor

Yeah I'm sure slavery had no effect on their demographics, Shlomo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233828)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:42 PM
Author: crawly copper tanning salon filthpig

where can i eat gruel today?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233914)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Big national

Your home kitchen

I use pearled barley cooked into a porridge in chicken stock with either savory or sweet seasonings depending on the time of day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233917)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:53 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort

*THE* archetypal Thai dish, pad thai, was invented in the 1930s

one of *THE* quintessentially stereotypically Italian dishes, pasta carbonara, was invented in the late 1940s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233747)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: aromatic range

butter chicken and chicken tikka masala all new in last like 75 something years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233796)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort

a written recipe for pad krapow (the Thai thing made of fried ground meat, chilis and garlic, with Thai basil, served on white rice with a fried egg, probably my favorite of all Thai dishes, and some people say their real national dish) was supposedly first recorded in the 1980s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233809)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: irate parlor

The only thing I eat in Asia is the fried rice. You can't fuck that up. In some parts of Indonesia there's other stuff you can eat but in Thailand just do fried rice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233833)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: Insecure spectacular resort

there's some great food in that part of the world that you're missing out on imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233864)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: aromatic range

ljl i cld understand fried rice in indo cause some of the regular food is foul but thailand rofl ive been eating diff dish every day today i got khao soi whatever noodles, thai food is 180 faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233873)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: irate parlor

Indonesia has rawon and rendang and there's nothing even remotely comparable in Thailand. Indonesia also puts sugar in their soy sauce so the fried rice is too sweet. Vietnamese fried rice also sucks dick so I get noodles there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49234582)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: plum lay

"invented the tomato"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233751)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Pale meetinghouse multi-billionaire

Eureka! Behold my latest invention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233874)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Big national

Emperor Montezuma II created the first tomato through parthenogenesis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49233885)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: irate parlor

Avocado means testicle in Nahuatl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49235429)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: arousing flushed son of senegal incel

The ancient Greek referred to nightshade plants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49234453)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:07 AM
Author: irate parlor

If Greece had tomatoes everyone would have gotten them from Greece

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49235430)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Lascivious mauve sound barrier

Tomatoes existed for millions of years

potatoes evolved from tomatoes even

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/jul/31/potato-evolved-from-tomato-ancestor-researchers-find

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49234552)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:11 AM
Author: irate parlor

Tomatoes were domesticated in America; however, the original site of domestication and the early events of domestication are largely obscure (Peralta and Spooner, 2007). Two hypotheses have been advanced for the original place of tomato domestication, one Peruvian and the other Mexican. Although definite proof for the time and place of domestication is lacking, Mexico is presumed to be the most probable region of domestication, with Peru as the centre of diversity for wild relatives (Larry and Joanne, 2007).

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2759208/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49235433)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:11 AM
Author: aqua unhinged preventive strike principal's office

I guess that's why their names are similar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49235434)



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Date: September 3rd, 2025 10:40 PM
Author: Sticky Fragrant Stage

i think a lot of people imagine china having hot spicy food like sichuan for 1000s of years, but the chili pepper was new world too right? crazy to think about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49235288)



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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:45 AM
Author: irate parlor

Yeah. They had black pepper but that's as spicy as it got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5769420&forum_id=2#49235452)