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Employers: entry-level workers "useless"

Employers: Entry-Level Applicants Are Just About Useless Wr...
Coral goal in life hominid
  06/19/13
They need to tell themselves that they hire based on 'soft s...
tan skinny woman
  06/19/13
Hr also has to justify their choices as the product of a RIG...
multi-colored violet depressive candlestick maker
  06/19/13
Also they throw in the networking bullshit which really serv...
Primrose Lascivious Mad Cow Disease
  06/19/13
cr
Chocolate Marvelous Theater Reading Party
  06/20/13
I have barrels of those soft skills. It's the hard skills...
insecure pistol macaca
  06/19/13
and then they'll bitch about how they can't find any qualifi...
Amethyst charismatic jew
  06/20/13
boomer propaganda.
tan skinny woman
  06/19/13
Entry-level seems like an unnecessary modifier
Exhilarant magical church filthpig
  06/19/13
'soft skills' being weighed more heavily than academic crede...
arousing mediation
  06/19/13
seems like a lot of the time they just make this shit up.
tan skinny woman
  06/19/13
its funny, i have hard skills and few soft skills. didnt hav...
Citrine Range Internal Respiration
  06/20/13
Even Albert Einstein was "entry-level" at some poi...
learning disabled piazza partner
  06/20/13
"Yet 40% of U.S. employers say most entry-level job can...
cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier
  06/20/13
STEM>>>>history/phil/law for critical thinking
learning disabled piazza partner
  06/20/13
LOL
cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier
  06/20/13
(guy who became a lawyer because he "can't do math"...
Citrine Range Internal Respiration
  06/20/13
philosophy scores top 3-5 on gre, lsat etc. only behind math...
cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier
  06/20/13
but they know at least 5 equations that you don't and as lon...
jade soul-stirring azn
  06/20/13
*memorizes solutions to old test* *spits it out mechanically...
cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier
  06/20/13
*Applies 5-6 equations to solve real world problem* *make...
fragrant mexican
  06/20/13
Other than maybe biology and other bullshitty soft sciences,...
odious forum
  06/20/13
"Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" j...
exciting dark tank
  06/20/13
since the only people getting jobs are "engineers"...
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  06/20/13
it's enraging and paralyzing to be on the receiving end of a...
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wonderful bronze rehab
  06/20/13
stop and read this quote again: "Being employable to...
Drab locale nowag
  06/20/13
This quote is so fucked up on so many levels. 1. What is...
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  06/20/13
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Drab locale nowag
  06/20/13
IQ and EQ are defined concepts...
shimmering anal knife queen of the night
  06/20/13
"A person's EQ is generally found by dividing the resul...
greedy state telephone
  06/20/13
http://www.brianoc.com/ Author is a confirmed boomer, obviou...
shimmering anal knife queen of the night
  06/20/13
*demands college degree for jobs consisting of menial labor*...
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Date: June 19th, 2013 7:00 PM
Author: Coral goal in life hominid

Employers: Entry-Level Applicants Are Just About Useless

Written by: Brian O'Connell 06/18/13 - 9:00 AM EDT

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- At perhaps a bad time in U.S. employment, it seems there's a "perception gap" between what workers think they're worth on the job and how employers see them.

Analysis by Bryant & Stratton College with help from Wakefield Research from a survey among U.S. adults age 18 to 34 found that 80% of workers believe they are "job ready and possess all the skills, experience and education needed to advance in their desired career path or obtain their next job."

Yet 40% of U.S. employers say most entry-level job candidates lack even the basic skills needed to fill job openings.

Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" job skills such as critical thinking and sophisticated problem-solving. Only 16% of the 18- to 34-year-olds surveyed see such skills as necessary for career advancement.

But that's a huge swing-and-miss by employees, the college says. In fact, 93% of U.S. employers say soft skills are "weighed more heavily" when vetting job candidates -- much more so than a candidate's college academic credentials.

"Being employable today is all about knowing how to communicate to employers that you have intelligence quotient as well as educational quotient," says Scott Traylor, associate campus director for online education at the online college.

Bryant & Stratton offers a video called Job Ready Or Not? explaining what employers look for in job candidates these days. Find it at here.

"Job-seekers need to start marketing themselves based on the skills, competencies and traits employers need and value most," says Beth Tarquino, chief academic officer at Bryant & Stratton. "Too often the background experience and soft-skills attributes needed to successfully look for a job are underestimated, especially by college students and new graduates. Searching for a job can become a full-time job, but putting in the extra work to understand hiring trends and needs of employers is worth it."

http://business-news.thestreet.com/philly/story/employers-entry-level-applicants-are-just-about-useless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23432131)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 9:28 PM
Author: tan skinny woman

They need to tell themselves that they hire based on 'soft skills', because they cannot bring themselves to admit that they get 500 equally well qualified applicants for each position and hence are fucking 499 of those applicants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23432965)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 9:34 PM
Author: multi-colored violet depressive candlestick maker

Hr also has to justify their choices as the product of a RIGOROUS analysis of skills and suitability or they'd lose their own job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433011)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 9:40 PM
Author: Primrose Lascivious Mad Cow Disease

Also they throw in the networking bullshit which really serves to excuse their colossal laziness and nepotism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433043)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 8:48 AM
Author: Chocolate Marvelous Theater Reading Party

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435452)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 9:54 PM
Author: insecure pistol macaca

I have barrels of those soft skills.

It's the hard skills I lack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433159)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 8:55 AM
Author: Amethyst charismatic jew

and then they'll bitch about how they can't find any qualified people with 5+ years exp and it will never dawn on them that the two are related.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435468)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 9:25 PM
Author: tan skinny woman

boomer propaganda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23432955)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 9:55 PM
Author: Exhilarant magical church filthpig

Entry-level seems like an unnecessary modifier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433168)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 10:18 PM
Author: arousing mediation

'soft skills' being weighed more heavily than academic credentials is obviously ludicrous bullshit but i want to see the poll that got 84% of respondents to say that problem-solving isn't necessary for a career



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433338)



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Date: June 19th, 2013 10:25 PM
Author: tan skinny woman

seems like a lot of the time they just make this shit up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433410)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 8:56 AM
Author: Citrine Range Internal Respiration

its funny, i have hard skills and few soft skills. didnt have a problem getting an entry level gig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435471)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 9:14 AM
Author: learning disabled piazza partner

Even Albert Einstein was "entry-level" at some point. Can't expect people to be experts right out of the gate. This bashing of younger workers is just boomer bullshit to justify their own oversized compensation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435515)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 9:50 AM
Author: cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier

"Yet 40% of U.S. employers say most entry-level job candidates lack even the basic skills needed to fill job openings.

Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" job skills such as critical thinking and sophisticated problem-solving. Only 16% of the 18- to 34-year-olds surveyed see such skills as necessary for career advancement. "

First, they used to train noobs.

Second, they are bitching about an poor "critical thinking" when by not wanting to train anyone on the job they made history/phil/law degrees worthless.

Third, the reason your garden variety STEM dude doesn't have any "critical thinking skills" is because all they do is memorize solutions. So you got one group of people with no hard skills, and another group with no soft skills. Neither group being given the opportunity to train in what they lack. GJ America!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435586)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:22 AM
Author: learning disabled piazza partner

STEM>>>>history/phil/law for critical thinking

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435718)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:23 AM
Author: cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435722)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:25 AM
Author: Citrine Range Internal Respiration

(guy who became a lawyer because he "can't do math")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435735)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier

philosophy scores top 3-5 on gre, lsat etc. only behind math and physics which isn't the "garden variety stem" dude. You have failed at critical reasoning already. That's the appalling thing about STEM turds, you are below even business people in terms of reasoning - because at least they master lying. Interacting socratically with a stem dude is like playing checkers with someone who has downs syndrome. I have sat in organic chemistry and biochemistry with chem.E dudes. they are often the dimmest bulbs in the group. At least biology people have verbal fluidity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435741)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:30 AM
Author: jade soul-stirring azn

but they know at least 5 equations that you don't and as long as you restrict conversation to their very narrow field they can bring these up and look smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435756)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:31 AM
Author: cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier

*memorizes solutions to old test* *spits it out mechanically* *is smart*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435758)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:08 PM
Author: fragrant mexican

*Applies 5-6 equations to solve real world problem*

*makes $60k/year straight out of college with 2.2 gpa*

You: Poast on XO, ponder meaning of life professionally while making coffee just for a little while til someone can see your brilliance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438399)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:37 PM
Author: odious forum

Other than maybe biology and other bullshitty soft sciences, STEM is pure application. There is a reason engineers do well on the LSAT despite doing virtually no significant reading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438558)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:35 AM
Author: exciting dark tank

"Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" job skills such as critical thinking and sophisticated problem-solving. Only 16% of the 18- to 34-year-olds surveyed see such skills as necessary for career advancement."

In what entry level job praytell is critical thinking requried?????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435771)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:38 AM
Author: cream cruel-hearted den sound barrier

since the only people getting jobs are "engineers" a critical thinking situation would happen in everyday interactions.

"Pandeesh! Please install windows on Mr. Johnsons computer!"

*Pandeesh installs windows 7*

"Pandeesh! We are installing windows 8 now!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435787)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 10:36 AM
Author: Startled headpube address

it's enraging and paralyzing to be on the receiving end of a media distortion campaign like this.

every day brings fresh lies like this, from the boomer media. every day the truth is more hopelessly obscured, by thickets of phony Facts & Figures, and the latest manufactured Conventional Wisdom.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435775)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 5:50 PM
Author: wonderful bronze rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438299)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 5:54 PM
Author: Drab locale nowag

stop and read this quote again:

"Being employable today is all about knowing how to communicate to employers that you have intelligence quotient as well as educational quotient," says Scott Traylor, associate campus director for online education at the online college [that conducted the survey].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438320)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:18 PM
Author: trip know-it-all idiot twinkling uncleanness

This quote is so fucked up on so many levels.

1. What is the intelligence quotient?

2. What is the educational quotient?

3. You mean the two are different?

4. Why is this coming from an online college?

5. How the fuck did this guy get employed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438434)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:33 PM
Author: Drab locale nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438528)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:41 PM
Author: shimmering anal knife queen of the night

IQ and EQ are defined concepts...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438594)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:47 PM
Author: greedy state telephone

"A person's EQ is generally found by dividing the results of their Wide Range Achievement Test by their IQ and multiplying by 100,[2][3] or by dividing their Education Age by their Chronological Age and multiplying by 100.[4][5]"

LolWHAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438647)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:36 PM
Author: shimmering anal knife queen of the night

http://www.brianoc.com/ Author is a confirmed boomer, obviously. "Free lance writer" Pretty much as useless as you can get btw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438554)



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Date: June 20th, 2013 6:48 PM
Author: Green provocative dopamine

*demands college degree for jobs consisting of menial labor*

*claims that most applicants are unqualified to justify requirement of college degree for jobs consisting of menial labor*

*uses the fact that job consists of menial labor to pay college graduates 27k a year*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438654)