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Anyone Play Expedition 33

Mind blowing story in that game
sticky navy market
  06/28/25
if you mean "fucking retarded" I agree. great star...
exhilarant site
  06/28/25
lol haha wtf bro that’s absolutely the opposite of the...
sticky navy market
  06/28/25
i beat the whole game. literally nothing happens. it has the...
exhilarant site
  09/25/25
The main tension is concluded with act2, but act3's arc is s...
hairraiser church building marketing idea
  06/28/25
I don’t spend more than like $10 on western games
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  06/28/25
It’s Free on Gamepass
sticky navy market
  06/28/25
Gamepass isn’t free. I don’t spend more than $24...
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  06/28/25
I forgot you are Poor
sticky navy market
  06/28/25
I have PS5. Xbox is for poor people
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  06/28/25
You don’t even have the Pro. Your Death Stranding 2 pu...
mauve death wish community account
  06/28/25
I got the 229,99 Loser Edition too. I am your better.
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  06/28/25
The best way of doing this is to have an Xbox, have Gamepass...
Comical kitchen gaping
  06/30/25
You can routinely get gamepass on sale. At ~$150/year (some...
Comical kitchen gaping
  06/30/25
Amazing game. Square acknowledged that it needs to go back t...
Cruel-hearted institution
  06/28/25
...
hairraiser church building marketing idea
  06/28/25
...
sticky navy market
  06/28/25
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multi-colored violet prole kitty
  06/30/25
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.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
The Paintress did nothing wrong.
mauve death wish community account
  06/30/25
what a triumph. the dodge/parry mechanic is a great way to m...
multi-colored violet prole kitty
  06/30/25
Nah, not including the minimap was a great idea. More games ...
Cruel-hearted institution
  06/30/25
yeah i get it and like the old school rpg vibes but i keep r...
multi-colored violet prole kitty
  06/30/25
Overall lack of mini map was good for immersion but I got tu...
concupiscible magenta lay
  06/30/25
...
multi-colored violet prole kitty
  06/30/25
lol bro you're retarded. none of the areas even have complex...
exhilarant site
  09/25/25
cowshit says “I never know where to go in western game...
mauve death wish community account
  09/25/25
imagine him trying to play some game with old school map des...
exhilarant site
  09/25/25
I just ended up going backwards a bit and wasted some time. ...
concupiscible magenta lay
  09/25/25
(guy who got lost in the Kislev sewers for hours and fell do...
exhilarant site
  09/26/25
Kislev sewers was annoying but fine. I do admit I had som...
concupiscible magenta lay
  09/26/25
Elden Ring was honestly a big letdown and one of the few gam...
Comical kitchen gaping
  06/30/25
(Doodikoff)
Cruel-hearted institution
  06/30/25
this is a great game for doodikoff. he can finally feel like...
multi-colored violet prole kitty
  06/30/25
No I'm playing through my backlog I'm in my ps vita era rn
obsidian wonderful locus
  06/30/25
Brilliant game and story telling. This is the sort of thing...
concupiscible magenta lay
  06/30/25
(Kojima sheds a tear)
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  06/30/25
I will absolutely play DS2 but not going to have time to dig...
concupiscible magenta lay
  06/30/25
It’s not that much of a beast. Seems to be Shorter tha...
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  06/30/25
I played it. It was fine and I was addicted for a little bi...
concupiscible magenta lay
  09/25/25
lmao proof that xoxo is retarded and jewish. oh wow games...
exhilarant site
  09/25/25
Yea man, all games suck except for FromSoft games and clones...
concupiscible magenta lay
  09/25/25
oh wow the dumb faggot who says "go back to reddit"...
exhilarant site
  09/26/25
It is on my to do list.
Comical kitchen gaping
  06/30/25
It's called a Backlog champ
obsidian wonderful locus
  06/30/25
...
Adventurous Chest-beating Pistol
  09/25/25
You should just play this one
sticky navy market
  07/11/25
I ended up doing that and it was 180.
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/12/25
im doing all the end game content now. i wish this stuff ope...
multi-colored violet prole kitty
  07/21/25
I just started and it seems like a potential Triumph. We'll ...
Big hominid
  09/25/25
...
Adventurous Chest-beating Pistol
  09/25/25
UE5 rock walls
Low-t seedy stage
  09/25/25
No one has and it’s Forgotten
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  09/25/25
Gtfo
mauve death wish community account
  09/25/25
It's in your Backlog ffs. you haven't played it a single fuc...
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  09/25/25
I fail to see how that’s relevant.
mauve death wish community account
  09/25/25
🙄
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  09/25/25
...
Adventurous Chest-beating Pistol
  09/25/25
...
obsidian wonderful locus
  09/25/25
first two acts nice, gets boring third act. either OP or one...
Bearded charismatic crotch
  09/25/25
No western game is "balanced"
copper weed whacker keepsake machete
  09/26/25
I thought BG3 was balanced. Even in the end, being somewhat ...
Bearded charismatic crotch
  09/26/25
Update: played through most of it (acts 1-2) over the past w...
Big hominid
  09/30/25
It is a triumph. Some cool fights in Act 3 but you might wa...
concupiscible magenta lay
  10/01/25
I finished it. The last act was definitely the weak point of...
Big hominid
  10/03/25
For story you basically do the loyalty quest and finish the ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
I thought this was the best game of the last several years. ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  11/10/25
the whole "writers" vs. "painters" expla...
Diamond Dallas Trump
  11/12/25


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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:07 AM
Author: sticky navy market

Mind blowing story in that game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49055512)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:13 AM
Author: exhilarant site

if you mean "fucking retarded" I agree. great start but it goes absolutely nowhere.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49055518)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: sticky navy market

lol haha wtf bro that’s absolutely the opposite of the truth. Nobody disputes that it goes “somewhere” because the story is fully explained and realized. How far did you get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056037)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:41 PM
Author: exhilarant site

i beat the whole game. literally nothing happens. it has the plot depth and pacing of a fetch quest laden open-world MMORPG. it has one of the dumbest "twists" of all time and then the amount they flesh out the whole "painters/writers" feud is laughable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303270)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: hairraiser church building marketing idea

The main tension is concluded with act2, but act3's arc is still profound and 180. Addressing the rampant escapism prevalent in modern life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056618)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

I don’t spend more than like $10 on western games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056038)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:12 AM
Author: sticky navy market

It’s Free on Gamepass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056043)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:13 AM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

Gamepass isn’t free. I don’t spend more than $240/yr on games, therefore it costs money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056045)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: sticky navy market

I forgot you are Poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056105)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:54 AM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

I have PS5. Xbox is for poor people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056118)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 12:05 PM
Author: mauve death wish community account

You don’t even have the Pro. Your Death Stranding 2 purchase decimated your Net Worth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056136)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:27 PM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

I got the 229,99 Loser Edition too. I am your better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056573)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Comical kitchen gaping

The best way of doing this is to have an Xbox, have Gamepass and then Nvidia Geforce Now streaming. Then you stream to your 42-48" oled screen in 4k at 120hz via your laptop. Better than the PS5 Pro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060663)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:25 PM
Author: Comical kitchen gaping

You can routinely get gamepass on sale. At ~$150/year (sometimes less) that is 3ish games/year. You'll probably buy several more games anyway but you'll also play like 5-10 games on gamepass, so unless you very rarely game it is a fantastic deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060657)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted institution

Amazing game. Square acknowledged that it needs to go back to making turn based RPGs because E33 was a huge success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056599)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: hairraiser church building marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49056612)



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Date: June 28th, 2025 10:02 PM
Author: sticky navy market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49057140)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: multi-colored violet prole kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060099)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49418981)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: mauve death wish community account

The Paintress did nothing wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060064)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: multi-colored violet prole kitty

what a triumph. the dodge/parry mechanic is a great way to make turn based rpgs not purely a grind/math fest. could've used a minimap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060112)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Cruel-hearted institution

Nah, not including the minimap was a great idea. More games should copy e33 and elden ring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060167)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: multi-colored violet prole kitty

yeah i get it and like the old school rpg vibes but i keep running around like a retard and unintentionally grinding when id rather retain the difficulty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060427)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

Overall lack of mini map was good for immersion but I got turned around a lot and was hard to reorient myself. They could’ve done a better job with more in-game landmarks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060662)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: multi-colored violet prole kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49061221)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:43 PM
Author: exhilarant site

lol bro you're retarded. none of the areas even have complex layouts. u would have been fucked during the PS1/Dreamcast/PS2 era.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303273)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: mauve death wish community account

cowshit says “I never know where to go in western games” and I don’t get it at all, they all practically hold your hand the entire way through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303276)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: exhilarant site

imagine him trying to play some game with old school map design like OG Tomb Raider or Turok or Shadowman and just getting lost in a single section of a level for hours dying over and over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303278)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:50 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

I just ended up going backwards a bit and wasted some time. Had a similar issue in Rebirth which i loved too. Was never an issue in From games.

PS1 and Dreamcast games were easy. How could anyone get lost in the simple layouts in Grandia and Skies of Arcadia? Most PS1 games were just pre-rendered. The 3D stuff like Xenogears wasn’t hard to get around and was only annoying because of random battles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303758)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:22 AM
Author: exhilarant site

(guy who got lost in the Kislev sewers for hours and fell down the Tower of Babel 20 times and is now trying to play it off by blaming the encounter rate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304380)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:24 AM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

Kislev sewers was annoying but fine.

I do admit I had some rough falls in the tower and might’ve yelled at my tv a few times. Isn’t that a right of passage though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304382)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:28 PM
Author: Comical kitchen gaping

Elden Ring was honestly a big letdown and one of the few games I regret buying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060668)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted institution

(Doodikoff)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49061252)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: multi-colored violet prole kitty

this is a great game for doodikoff. he can finally feel like he beat a souls type game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49061258)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: obsidian wonderful locus

No I'm playing through my backlog I'm in my ps vita era rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060207)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

Brilliant game and story telling. This is the sort of thing FF should be striving to be.

Between this and Kingdom Come 2, games are on fire this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060458)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

(Kojima sheds a tear)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060532)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

I will absolutely play DS2 but not going to have time to dig into that beast for at least a month or so. Everything I’ve heard about it is positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060567)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:15 PM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

It’s not that much of a beast. Seems to be Shorter than the first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060625)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

I played it. It was fine and I was addicted for a little bit but got bored about halfway through. Not sure I’m going to finish. Digging Silksong right now but have a feeling I’ll lose interest in this before the end too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303769)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:45 PM
Author: exhilarant site

lmao proof that xoxo is retarded and jewish.

oh wow games are "on fire" because of a Two Worlds 2 clone that lets you protect jews and fuck other men in the ass. and a slop JRPG with a cast of man-jawed lesbians and an underdeveloped plot but decent graphics. wow it's a fucking renaissance. faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303277)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

Yea man, all games suck except for FromSoft games and clones. Go make some more posts about your 5090. What an odd dude who posts all the time about his gaming PC but hates games. Go back to Reddit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303765)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:26 AM
Author: exhilarant site

oh wow the dumb faggot who says "go back to reddit" just so happens to have the exact same taste in games as the median redditor. they LOVE Kingdom Slop 2 and Troon Obscur there.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304384)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Comical kitchen gaping

It is on my to do list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060584)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: obsidian wonderful locus

It's called a Backlog champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49060595)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Adventurous Chest-beating Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304019)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: sticky navy market

You should just play this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49093156)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 1:30 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


I ended up doing that and it was 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49422407)



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Date: July 21st, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: multi-colored violet prole kitty

im doing all the end game content now. i wish this stuff opened up after the end of the main story as im sure ill one shot the final boss now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49118455)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Big hominid

I just started and it seems like a potential Triumph. We'll see what unfolds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49302644)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:54 PM
Author: Adventurous Chest-beating Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303164)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: Low-t seedy stage

UE5 rock walls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303150)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

No one has and it’s Forgotten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303171)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: mauve death wish community account

Gtfo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303205)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

It's in your Backlog ffs. you haven't played it a single fucking SECOND.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303449)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: mauve death wish community account

I fail to see how that’s relevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303681)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 10:36 PM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303894)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Adventurous Chest-beating Pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304018)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 6:50 PM
Author: obsidian wonderful locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303282)



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Date: September 25th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Bearded charismatic crotch

first two acts nice, gets boring third act. either OP or one shotted. needs more balance.

but still good game. worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49303571)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: copper weed whacker keepsake machete

No western game is "balanced"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304392)



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Date: September 26th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Bearded charismatic crotch

I thought BG3 was balanced. Even in the end, being somewhat OP, things were still a little difficult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49304843)



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Date: September 30th, 2025 5:17 PM
Author: Big hominid

Update: played through most of it (acts 1-2) over the past week+ and it is indeed a Triumph. Kind of annoying how I ended act 2 at level 48 thinking I was close to wrapping up the game but every act 3 zone seems to be 10+ levels higher though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49315584)



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Date: October 1st, 2025 2:15 PM
Author: concupiscible magenta lay

It is a triumph. Some cool fights in Act 3 but you might want to beeline and finish the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49317505)



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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Big hominid

I finished it. The last act was definitely the weak point of the game, but still overall very good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49323075)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


For story you basically do the loyalty quest and finish the game. Everything else are just challenges (the endless tower, for example).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49418987)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


I thought this was the best game of the last several years. Memorable story with characters you actually care about, mechanics were great, and the sort of game you think about after beating it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49418990)



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Date: November 12th, 2025 1:43 AM
Author: Diamond Dallas Trump

the whole "writers" vs. "painters" explanation/twist was one of the most undeveloped and retarded plotlines in a major RPG. it's on the level of FF8's "we were friends all along and just forgot about each other" twist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744013&forum_id=2#49422410)