The most prestigious law school admissions discussion board in the world.
|
 |
 
|
Employers: entry-level workers "useless"
Poast new message in this thread
Date: June 19th, 2013 7:00 PM Author: umber point gaming laptop Employers: Entry-Level Applicants Are Just About Useless Written by: Brian O'Connell 06/18/13 - 9:00 AM EDT NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- At perhaps a bad time in U.S. employment, it seems there's a "perception gap" between what workers think they're worth on the job and how employers see them.
Analysis by Bryant & Stratton College with help from Wakefield Research from a survey among U.S. adults age 18 to 34 found that 80% of workers believe they are "job ready and possess all the skills, experience and education needed to advance in their desired career path or obtain their next job."
Yet 40% of U.S. employers say most entry-level job candidates lack even the basic skills needed to fill job openings.
Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" job skills such as critical thinking and sophisticated problem-solving. Only 16% of the 18- to 34-year-olds surveyed see such skills as necessary for career advancement.
But that's a huge swing-and-miss by employees, the college says. In fact, 93% of U.S. employers say soft skills are "weighed more heavily" when vetting job candidates -- much more so than a candidate's college academic credentials.
"Being employable today is all about knowing how to communicate to employers that you have intelligence quotient as well as educational quotient," says Scott Traylor, associate campus director for online education at the online college.
Bryant & Stratton offers a video called Job Ready Or Not? explaining what employers look for in job candidates these days. Find it at here.
"Job-seekers need to start marketing themselves based on the skills, competencies and traits employers need and value most," says Beth Tarquino, chief academic officer at Bryant & Stratton. "Too often the background experience and soft-skills attributes needed to successfully look for a job are underestimated, especially by college students and new graduates. Searching for a job can become a full-time job, but putting in the extra work to understand hiring trends and needs of employers is worth it."
http://business-news.thestreet.com/philly/story/employers-entry-level-applicants-are-just-about-useless |
 |
Date: June 19th, 2013 9:28 PM Author: thriller misanthropic institution They need to tell themselves that they hire based on 'soft skills', because they cannot bring themselves to admit that they get 500 equally well qualified applicants for each position and hence are fucking 499 of those applicants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23432965) |
|
Date: June 19th, 2013 9:34 PM Author: tripping stage Hr also has to justify their choices as the product of a RIGOROUS analysis of skills and suitability or they'd lose their own job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433011) |
|
Date: June 19th, 2013 9:40 PM Author: Burgundy self-absorbed native marketing idea Also they throw in the networking bullshit which really serves to excuse their colossal laziness and nepotism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433043) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 8:48 AM Author: heady principal's office juggernaut cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435452) |
|
Date: June 19th, 2013 9:54 PM Author: Passionate Dark Faggotry Nowag I have barrels of those soft skills.
It's the hard skills I lack. |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 8:55 AM Author: alcoholic sooty depressive box office and then they'll bitch about how they can't find any qualified people with 5+ years exp and it will never dawn on them that the two are related. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435468) |
Date: June 19th, 2013 9:25 PM Author: thriller misanthropic institution boomer propaganda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23432955) |
|
Date: June 19th, 2013 9:55 PM Author: Lemon hunting ground Entry-level seems like an unnecessary modifier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433168) |
|
Date: June 19th, 2013 10:18 PM Author: Mahogany rough-skinned love of her life garrison 'soft skills' being weighed more heavily than academic credentials is obviously ludicrous bullshit but i want to see the poll that got 84% of respondents to say that problem-solving isn't necessary for a career
|
|
Date: June 19th, 2013 10:25 PM Author: thriller misanthropic institution seems like a lot of the time they just make this shit up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23433410) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 8:56 AM Author: Charismatic Irate School Cafeteria Toilet Seat its funny, i have hard skills and few soft skills. didnt have a problem getting an entry level gig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435471) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 9:14 AM Author: Unholy Floppy Associate Church Building Even Albert Einstein was "entry-level" at some point. Can't expect people to be experts right out of the gate. This bashing of younger workers is just boomer bullshit to justify their own oversized compensation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435515) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 9:50 AM Author: Awkward Mustard Keepsake Machete Pozpig "Yet 40% of U.S. employers say most entry-level job candidates lack even the basic skills needed to fill job openings.
Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" job skills such as critical thinking and sophisticated problem-solving. Only 16% of the 18- to 34-year-olds surveyed see such skills as necessary for career advancement. "
First, they used to train noobs.
Second, they are bitching about an poor "critical thinking" when by not wanting to train anyone on the job they made history/phil/law degrees worthless.
Third, the reason your garden variety STEM dude doesn't have any "critical thinking skills" is because all they do is memorize solutions. So you got one group of people with no hard skills, and another group with no soft skills. Neither group being given the opportunity to train in what they lack. GJ America! |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:22 AM Author: Unholy Floppy Associate Church Building STEM>>>>history/phil/law for critical thinking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435718) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:23 AM Author: Awkward Mustard Keepsake Machete Pozpig LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435722) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:25 AM Author: Charismatic Irate School Cafeteria Toilet Seat (guy who became a lawyer because he "can't do math") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435735) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:27 AM Author: Awkward Mustard Keepsake Machete Pozpig philosophy scores top 3-5 on gre, lsat etc. only behind math and physics which isn't the "garden variety stem" dude. You have failed at critical reasoning already. That's the appalling thing about STEM turds, you are below even business people in terms of reasoning - because at least they master lying. Interacting socratically with a stem dude is like playing checkers with someone who has downs syndrome. I have sat in organic chemistry and biochemistry with chem.E dudes. they are often the dimmest bulbs in the group. At least biology people have verbal fluidity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435741) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:30 AM Author: mewling gold hell dragon but they know at least 5 equations that you don't and as long as you restrict conversation to their very narrow field they can bring these up and look smart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435756) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:31 AM Author: Awkward Mustard Keepsake Machete Pozpig *memorizes solutions to old test* *spits it out mechanically* *is smart* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23435758) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:08 PM Author: insecure opaque electric furnace *Applies 5-6 equations to solve real world problem*
*makes $60k/year straight out of college with 2.2 gpa*
You: Poast on XO, ponder meaning of life professionally while making coffee just for a little while til someone can see your brilliance |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:37 PM Author: Chestnut aromatic mental disorder Other than maybe biology and other bullshitty soft sciences, STEM is pure application. There is a reason engineers do well on the LSAT despite doing virtually no significant reading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438558) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:35 AM Author: Hot pocket flask "Then there's the issue of so-called "soft" job skills such as critical thinking and sophisticated problem-solving. Only 16% of the 18- to 34-year-olds surveyed see such skills as necessary for career advancement."
In what entry level job praytell is critical thinking requried????? |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:38 AM Author: Awkward Mustard Keepsake Machete Pozpig since the only people getting jobs are "engineers" a critical thinking situation would happen in everyday interactions.
"Pandeesh! Please install windows on Mr. Johnsons computer!"
*Pandeesh installs windows 7*
"Pandeesh! We are installing windows 8 now!" |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 10:36 AM Author: Up-to-no-good therapy stock car it's enraging and paralyzing to be on the receiving end of a media distortion campaign like this.
every day brings fresh lies like this, from the boomer media. every day the truth is more hopelessly obscured, by thickets of phony Facts & Figures, and the latest manufactured Conventional Wisdom. |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 5:50 PM Author: Spectacular Pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438299) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 5:54 PM Author: Dashing heaven famous landscape painting stop and read this quote again:
"Being employable today is all about knowing how to communicate to employers that you have intelligence quotient as well as educational quotient," says Scott Traylor, associate campus director for online education at the online college [that conducted the survey]. |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:18 PM Author: doobsian yarmulke library This quote is so fucked up on so many levels.
1. What is the intelligence quotient? 2. What is the educational quotient? 3. You mean the two are different? 4. Why is this coming from an online college? 5. How the fuck did this guy get employed? |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:33 PM Author: Dashing heaven famous landscape painting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438528) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:41 PM Author: Fighting Business Firm Kitty Cat IQ and EQ are defined concepts... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438594) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:47 PM Author: Primrose site "A person's EQ is generally found by dividing the results of their Wide Range Achievement Test by their IQ and multiplying by 100,[2][3] or by dividing their Education Age by their Chronological Age and multiplying by 100.[4][5]"
LolWHAT |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:36 PM Author: Fighting Business Firm Kitty Cat http://www.brianoc.com/ Author is a confirmed boomer, obviously. "Free lance writer" Pretty much as useless as you can get btw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2286770&forum_id=2#23438554) |
|
Date: June 20th, 2013 6:48 PM Author: bull headed histrionic market *demands college degree for jobs consisting of menial labor*
*claims that most applicants are unqualified to justify requirement of college degree for jobs consisting of menial labor*
*uses the fact that job consists of menial labor to pay college graduates 27k a year* |