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Date: May 16th, 2012 4:50 PM Author: Electric buff senate I don't think it's an accident that the middle class destroyed itself following the sexual revolution. Female propriety was always the highest bourgeois value, and for good reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704744) |
Date: May 16th, 2012 5:02 PM Author: Electric buff senate True story. Buddy of mine is very well-read; his apartment looks like the Library of Congress--shelves and shelves of books. A decent half-hour conversation would tell you he's smart, even though he's not a show-off about it.
But he's a construction worker. Girls still ding him for not being college-educated. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:03 PM Author: appetizing territorial azn public bath I also know this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704876) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:04 PM Author: Electric buff senate There are plenty of guys like this. But we have a stupid assumption that men who work with their hands are less intelligent. Women are the biggest proponents of that stereotype, and it's one reason why the middle class is destroying itself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704885) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:07 PM Author: appetizing territorial azn public bath I was raised by a very intelligent mechanic/musician so I totally get where you're coming from and college education isn't one of my auto-dings.
I don't understand how women (who are educated) wanting to date and mate with men who are educated as well is killing the middle class, though. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:11 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian What it IS doing is helping everyone waste a ton of money on schooling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704928) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: appetizing territorial azn public bath Women wanting to marry and mate with educated dudes is a part of it, but it's not fair to say that parents send their kids to college (or that kids send themselves) because they don't want to miss out on educated women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705059) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:30 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian I think it's more applicable with respect to grad degrees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705070) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: appetizing territorial azn public bath I just find this interesting because I feel like there are the women who are always going to look for rich men with extensive degrees and status then there will be the other 90% of women who marry on a completely different scale due to education, family history, etc.
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:18 PM Author: Electric buff senate College degrees have become a prerequisite for the job/mating market. That's inflated their price far beyond their value. It means a lot of guys who might have done better with a blue collar job, learning real skills, are instead camping out for four years. We're starting to see that bubble burst, as employers are now asking recent grads for work experience AND degrees. The idiots take out more loans for grad school, but the average college kid might have been better off using those four years to get a solid employment record.
College also isolates the middle class from the working class. When the middle and working classes are at each other's throats, it's easy for the rich to pick them both off. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:20 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian Your first paragraph is spot-on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704985) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:33 PM Author: Electric buff senate My second point probably sounds like standard Marxist crap. The best example I can think of is OWS. Your average OWS protester isn't opposed to economic inequality; he's simply disappointed that his $250 K college degree hasn't gotten him a sweet job supervising the plebs. Your average blue-collar worker knows this and resents it. I went to college, but most of my friends are blue-collar. It's amazing the sheer contempt they have for their bumblefuck college-educated supervisors.
Middle-class SWPLs wonder why the working class consistently "votes against its economic interest." I think it's because they know neither party really gives a shit about their economic interests. A lot of opposition to the progressive agenda is driven by personal loathing for progressives. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:37 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian FWIW, I wasn't saying your second point was wrong, just more commenting on how much I agreed with your first point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705116) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:38 PM Author: Electric buff senate Oh yeah, I just thought I should explain the second point more, because it's often mistaken for a false consciousness Marxist argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705131) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:29 PM Author: appetizing territorial azn public bath Still, and although I agree it's crap, I don't think it's realistic to say that an 18 year old is thinking about their mating prospects -- or that their parents are -- when helping select next steps in life. I think it's 95% about the J.O.B. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705064) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: pea-brained center hunting ground mating prospects are always a subconscious motivator. and mating motivations are the ultimate source of our drive for status and resources (beyond subsistence). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705087) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: Electric buff senate cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705098) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: appetizing territorial azn public bath I'd settle for the argument that going to college means you are "normal" and just a more marketable human being in general.
EDIT: I can't argue the biology behind mating and considering prospects, though. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:04 PM Author: wine coldplay fan rehab girls don't ding him for not being college-educated. they ding him for being a construction worker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704882) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:06 PM Author: Electric buff senate Same difference. They ding him for his job, because they assume only stupid people would do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704895) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:09 PM Author: wine coldplay fan rehab it's not the same thing. do you think those girls wd ding a college dropout if he were filmmaker? or in a band? or a successful soda entrepreneur? likewise, do you think they wd ding this construction worker if he had a phd? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704916) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:11 PM Author: Violet Soul-stirring Hell Gay Wizard "do you think they wd ding this construction worker if he had a phd? "
are you saying they would not? if so, you are contradicting yourself. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:11 PM Author: Chestnut very tactful yarmulke temple A rational woman (like their unicorn ilk) would want someone who was intelligent and that she got a long with, regardless of his occupation. After all, some faggot filmmaker or "artist" would hardly make a better mate or better offspring than a smart alpha bro with a normal professions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704930) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:06 PM Author: Chestnut very tactful yarmulke temple I know a professor at a top school who married a carpenter. Son got 1600 and goes to Yale, daughter a little lower and goes to Princeton. You mad? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704897) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:07 PM Author: Electric buff senate That professor would never encourage any of her children to go into carpentry, hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704904) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:08 PM Author: Chestnut very tactful yarmulke temple Relevance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704910) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:10 PM Author: wine coldplay fan rehab i'm not mad at all. i wdn't reject someone for not being college educated (i dated someone who wasn't and he was still smarter than me). nor wd i reject someone for being a construction worker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704921) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:13 PM Author: Chestnut very tactful yarmulke temple You insinuated as much above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704937) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:05 PM Author: Red big sound barrier I have a cousin, WONG, who's an investment plumber and also very well read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704890) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:23 PM Author: Laughsome Up-to-no-good Tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705006) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:23 PM Author: Talented parlor girls don't "get" substance, which is why they only care about signaling mechanisms, jewelry, logos, etc. A woman would never buy an equus because it wouldnt mean anything to her friends.
so it doesnt matter how smart he is since she cant explain it to anyone |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:37 PM Author: pea-brained center hunting ground cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705113) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: comical brunch I dated this guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705241) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 6:12 PM Author: Unholy bat-shit-crazy native he should just lie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705470) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:39 PM Author: Electric buff senate Occasionally he pretends to be an office manager. The results are sad, but hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706175) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 8:20 PM Author: Unholy bat-shit-crazy native describe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706530) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:36 PM Author: lascivious hall you dont understand women
they're not rejecting him for not being college-educated, they're rejecting him for having a job that they don't think is lucrative enough.
if he were a business owner who didn't have a degree they wouldn't reject him. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:37 PM Author: Electric buff senate He makes a lot more money than some fuckwad English major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706157) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:12 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704932) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:20 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian Really? You think most men want a woman as educated as they are, or with a white collar job? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704988) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:23 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705010) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:24 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian Oh I see what you're saying.
Yes, I'd agree with that, though on the whole I don't think they're as bad as women w/r/t degrees. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:33 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705094) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:37 PM Author: Electric buff senate Your second point is spot-on. The problem is that we have more and more women like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705117) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705155) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: fear-inspiring hospital persian I think you make a good point, but I also think it doesn't usually work that way in practice. In reality, how many guys are there out there today under 30 who are very financially successful but don't have college degrees? Women may be okay with the HS grad who founded his own company and is worth $30 mil, or the popular actor who never got a degree, but that's a small set of men.
I think what IS happening is that women don't like to date/marry a guy they view as below their level, so the guy needs to match or outdo them in some combination of credentials/financial success/power. I don't have hard evidence of this, but I'd be willing to bet that if you looked at married women with a PHD, JD, MD or MBA, you'd find that the vast majority of their husbands either (i) also have one of those degrees or (ii) significantly outearn their wife (who likely has a well above-average earning potential already). As more and more women are going to school, getting grad degrees, becoming professionals, this is obviously creating a situation that doesn't work out in either gender's favor. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:53 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705276) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:21 PM Author: Electric buff senate There's male snobbery, sure. But women are much worse. Most men wouldn't ding a woman for lacking a college degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20704992) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:26 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705042) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:35 PM Author: Electric buff senate Oh, I completely agree, but I still think men tend to be less credentialist than women. I've noticed this in job interviews as well. Men will typically ask about my job skills. Women will ask about degrees/awards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705107) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:40 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705142) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:46 PM Author: Fluffy Startling Lodge I have the question answered as "nice, but not necessary," but I have not encountered one female profile who cites a college degree as less than mandatory.
I also do not have the "Sun is bigger than the Earth" as mandatory. My sister scoffed at me for this. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705219) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:55 PM Author: Fluffy Startling Lodge Not mandatory, but it actually bothers me more than the Sun/Earth question. While I can understand that a woman may simply not have any interest in basic science, everything necessary to successfully answer the STALE/STEAL question is right in front of you -- it's just a matter of minimal processing.
That said, I would say that more than half of the profiles I encounter have the STALE/STEAL question wrong. It never ceases to amaze me. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:56 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705303) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:25 PM Author: Talented parlor i see doods doing reverse snobbery which is more retarded. OHHH look at this faggot sitting in biz class drinking grey goose. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:44 PM Author: Electric buff senate Reverse snobbery is perfectly fine if you realize most of the rich are parasites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706231) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: Bistre haunted graveyard "i see just as much degree (& white collar jerb) snobbery from men here as from women"
In females, traits such as intelligence, being success-oriented, and non-crazy are more highly correlated with having a degree.
Every woman I know without a degree is a dullard or is J.-esque in some fashion. |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:33 PM Author: multi-colored weed whacker party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705096) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: Bistre haunted graveyard She is awesome, but she's kinda crazy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705103) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 5:22 PM Author: mentally impaired trailer park kitty women have too much freedom. we trivialize ourselves by catering to women and their "choices." we've turned our world into an insipid "eat, pray, love" simulation. this decadence cannot endure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20705004) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 8:20 PM Author: charismatic dilemma This is the definitive answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706524) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:35 PM Author: lascivious hall this thread is stupid
are people really pointing out that women care more about job, education and credentials than men do? and that makes them snobs? why not go make a thread about men being superficial? |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:37 PM Author: Electric buff senate The difference is that female snobbery has been abetted by female "emancipation." That has had devastating social consequences. Male superficiality has not had similar impact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706145) |
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:38 PM Author: lascivious hall ...because men were always "emancipated?"
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Date: May 16th, 2012 7:40 PM Author: Electric buff senate No. Male emancipation was only possible with bourgeois morality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1950082&forum_id=2#20706199) |
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