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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:43 PM Author: Light razzle piazza I met a disgruntled MD the other day talking about how he might just work for McKinsey instead of continuing on med path. Not sure if he's flaming me IRL or what. Vast majority of MDs could not get McKinsey and med school is much easier to get than McKinsey. Should I have loled in his face or what? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664800) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:07 PM Author: dun blathering theater people who are hurt Yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664964) |
Date: September 26th, 2012 5:44 PM Author: Sticky pearly nowag LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664805) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:15 PM Author: stubborn beady-eyed pocket flask parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665004) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:44 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams I hate delusional faggots like this.
Although he may not be as delusional as you think. I was talking to an MBB bro who said a ~top 50 med school would be prestigious enough to get you an interview, at least. |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Getting an interview means jack shit. You still have to go through 6 degrees of rigor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664825) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams "Getting an interview means jack shit."
Where did I say otherwise? |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: Light razzle piazza By implying that he wasn't delusional because top 50 med school students can get interviews. McKinsey will interview almost anyone who isn't from a TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664845) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams An interview is still important. Probably <1% of all college grads in the country would even qualify for one.
Sorry about your tiny pink case skills, bro. |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:51 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Seriously? I'm dat prestigious? I passed part 1 but ended up choosing lawlwork over continuing with interviews. Highly doubt I could have made it to the finals though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664864) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:53 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams They only recruit at certain undergrads and there's a minimum GPA and SAT (I've heard 3.6-3.7 and 1400+). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664879) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:55 PM Author: Light razzle piazza I didn't know that. I knew a ton of people with interviews so I thought it was common. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664893) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:57 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams (prestigious bro who's all non-chalant about it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664902) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:01 PM Author: iridescent school elastic band There's three rounds of in-person interviews right? How many people who make it past the first round ultimately get an offer? Some faggot I know keeps subtly bragging about how he made it past round one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664924) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:33 PM Author: Light razzle piazza I don't know how many of those who get an initial interview get an offer, but only one percent of those who apply get an offer. Getting past round one is relatively easy if you know basic math and business.
I think there's 4 rounds of case interviews. |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:44 PM Author: Vermilion Brunch Dopamine lolno. What are his creds? pedigree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664808) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Crappy med school. 30 or 31 mcat, graduated from a tier 2 undergrad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664817) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:46 PM Author: Vermilion Brunch Dopamine yeah no, better odds of being named Dean of HMS than working at MBB. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664824) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:57 PM Author: Racy Incel i don't think whok wants to do MBB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664903) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy My good friend is an MD and his hospital paid for him to go to HBS and he was offered a job at McKinsey which he will probably turn down/defer for a year to run a hospital in Africa. Yes he pwns my life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664813) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams What school range, brother? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664818) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy what do you mean school range? He goes to HBS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664830) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams Range of med school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664838) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy Stanford. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664861) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:54 PM Author: soul-stirring doobsian range laser beams *whistles* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664886) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:54 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Big difference is that Stanford has a good medical school. The guy I talked to goes to a TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664887) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:45 PM Author: Chartreuse razzmatazz hall factory reset button how did he like hbs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664819) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy not particularly. He thought it was fun but mostly a waste of time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664833) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: Chartreuse razzmatazz hall factory reset button waste of time? did he not try to network or actually take advantage of all the resources? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664841) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy he's a fucking doctor. he went to HBS for free. McKinsey threw a job at him. He does not need their resources. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664851) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:55 PM Author: Zombie-like striped hyena box office Is he cute? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664894) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:28 PM Author: flushed weed whacker church (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665111) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:46 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Yeah but your friend is actually smart. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664823) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: Disturbing Patrolman Preventive Strike why would a hospital pay for a harvard mba? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664840) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: Vermilion Brunch Dopamine cq. Wouldn't they send him to one of the myriad healthcare management programs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664849) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy they want him to learn more about admin? I dont know. He would be doing hospital consulting for McKinsey. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664856) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: Vermilion Brunch Dopamine Sniff test fail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664862) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:51 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy well it happens to be true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664867) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: Vermilion Brunch Dopamine Why would a hospital send him to a 2 year MBA program when there are many programs in healthcare management that cater to hospital administrators? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664872) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: Disturbing Patrolman Preventive Strike so they just said heres 200k for an mba so you can learn businessy skills and not be a practicing doctor for a couple of years? can you go back to medicine after that? what's the point of delaying finishing your residency for two years? i mean i understand why a person would leave medicine for two years if they really hate it, but it seems ridiculous that anyone else would pay for it. he's probably just lying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664874) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:54 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy he was practing 3 days a week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664883) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:56 PM Author: Light razzle piazza what specialty? anesthesiology or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664898) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 5:59 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy no he is internal medicine.
He started his own clinics in africa before and during med school and continues to run one, so his experience is a little broader than your average med school grad. He finished his residency.
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:12 PM Author: topaz misunderstood national yarmulke heres 200k for an MBA Oh and feel free to go to Mckinsey later if that sounds better. no reason to come back to us! LOL at this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664984) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:13 PM Author: Magenta beta native therapy it was part of a fellowship the hospital had. no strings attached. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664995) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:16 PM Author: topaz misunderstood national yarmulke so i pay for outrageous health care expenses and that money goes into a pool to pay doctors to leave the medical profession and go to biz school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665016) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:19 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Obamacare is sorting this shit out breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665036) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:52 PM Author: aphrodisiac onyx newt Never heard of this before. Your friend is flaming you if he said his hospital offered 100% free HBS with no work requirement post MBA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665272) |
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Date: September 27th, 2012 2:12 PM Author: Light razzle piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21670763) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:00 PM Author: Maize Self-centered Genital Piercing I don't get McKinsey.
I interviewed there and none of the people seemed that bright. Half of them barely spoke English.
The whole industry is such massive flame. |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:02 PM Author: Disturbing Patrolman Preventive Strike what dont you get? how often are you really wow'd by someone's superhuman intelligence? why do you think you need to be that smart to work there? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664933) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:04 PM Author: Maize Self-centered Genital Piercing No, just the whole mystique McKinsey has among professionals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664942) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:06 PM Author: Disturbing Patrolman Preventive Strike they hired people with prestigious pedigrees back when the economy was good and prestigious pedigrees were cool and paid them a good amount of money. what's not to get? how's it any different than wachtell or goldman sachs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664959) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:15 PM Author: Light razzle piazza Because something like one percent of applicants get the job, good pay, good exit ops, no need for grad school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665007) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:08 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Headpube Twinkling Uncleanness friend of mine who was case western med school and was radiology resident at NY presbyterian deferred his fellowship to work at mckinsey for 2 years. said that basically any MD could easily get it due to MBB jizzing over MDs to do healthcare consulting (very few of them are interested). no such thing as a TTT med school anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664968) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:10 PM Author: Disturbing Patrolman Preventive Strike I don't know if there's quite that much jism involved IRL, but I imagine it's not that difficult if you are professional/down to earth and prepare properly for the interviews/demonstrate a legit reason for wanting to do consulting. Probably still easier than biglaw from a t14. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21664976) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:14 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Headpube Twinkling Uncleanness IRL there are very few MDs interested in consulting so they're not faced with the standard competition. my friend said it was the biggest mistake he made in his career and can't believe he delayed his fellowship for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665001) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:15 PM Author: Light razzle piazza MDs don't need to complete the 6 degrees of rigor interviews? I don't see how having an MD would benefit unless it allows you to bypass the case studies interviews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665014) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:17 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Headpube Twinkling Uncleanness i don't know wtf this 6 degrees thing is. i do know he did case interviews and studied for them but because he was only considered for healthcare-related consulting, it may be a different process. it's not like mickinsey is hiring MDs to do other industries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665025) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:22 PM Author: Light razzle piazza How many phases did he have to go through? Or you have no idea?
Some people can bypass the first stage (written exam stage) while others don't. But I thought everyone who made it to the finals had to go through multiple stages of interviews, some group-based and others individual.
Even when I applied after college they were asking me about my SAT scores from years ago. I don't know if SAT scores are an auto-weeder but i don't think you can be a dumbass, luck your way into med school and get a McKinsey interview, but I may be wrong.
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:25 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Headpube Twinkling Uncleanness i have no idea.
i doubt if you have an MD, they're going to ask you your SAT score.
when they recruited at law school, they didn't ask for SAT or LSAT score. they made everyone take a math test though. |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:27 PM Author: Light razzle piazza I got a McK interview during undergrad and law school and thought I had given them my SATs both times, but I may be misremembering.
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:54 PM Author: aphrodisiac onyx newt Some MDs abandon medicine altogether and become traditional consultants at MBB. It's not unheard of to have MDs in Consultant/Principal positions working on general management cases for non healthcare clients. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665297) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:24 PM Author: cordovan office MDs are autoadmits at McKinsey. LOL at our "profession"! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665077) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:35 PM Author: cracking sound barrier This is like the 1Ls who say they'll just do investment banking if they decide against law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665166) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:37 PM Author: iridescent school elastic band The JD's a versatile degree bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665182) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:40 PM Author: Supple meetinghouse turdskin I don't know specifically about McKinsey, but MD does open a ton of doors outside of medicine. It's fairly easy to get into HBS if you're a resident at one of the Harvard-affiliated hospitals, sometimes your program will even pay for it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665207) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:44 PM Author: Light razzle piazza I doubt these MDs went to TTTs though breh unless Harvard-affiliated residencies are easy to get. The guy I was talking to goes to a TTT that accepts sub 30s on the MCAT and went to a tier 2 undergrad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665235) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:47 PM Author: Supple meetinghouse turdskin Youre way too focused on what med school someone went to, people don't really care as much. It's all about your training (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665254) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:48 PM Author: Light razzle piazza For McKinsey I don't think your medical training matters. It's about how you do on case studies and your quant skills. My point is that someone who is intelligent enough to go to a good med school probably has good enough skills to cop McKinsey whereas a TTT brother doesn't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665259) |
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Date: September 26th, 2012 6:48 PM Author: cracking sound barrier For medicine, yes. For business recruiting, no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#21665261) |
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Date: September 27th, 2012 8:00 PM Author: Marvelous harsh queen of the night I can't imagine too many MDs wanting to do MBB instead of practicing medicine or academia (clinical/basic science research)
Doing non-medical shit with a MD degree sounds unprestigious to me. My impression is that most MDs that go into MBB skip residential training, they are not licensed to practice medicine. MBB compensation is attractive when compared to residency, but far inferior when compared to the income of an attending or a doctor in successful private practice. Many MDs act in consulting roles, but that's in addition to their active practice or research.
That being said, I don't think any MD can just walk into MBB and land a job. |
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Date: June 12th, 2013 12:54 PM Author: Primrose tanning salon LJL @ the idea of any Med student coming from a T25 school or better taking a McKinsey interview seriously. Unless McKinsey stops the shenanigans with case interviews no respectable MD would consider them for a gig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2062886&forum_id=2#23380537) |