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anyone know anyone who has done this?
buck-toothed stag film
  02/04/12
women with kids they get marginalized but never fired
Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action
  02/04/12
what about male associates with health issues? same issue?
buck-toothed stag film
  02/04/12
never seen a male associate go PT
Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action
  02/04/12
so u think it would be looked down upon?
buck-toothed stag film
  02/04/12
yes
Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action
  02/04/12
by the firm as a whole (i.e. you could get fired more easily...
buck-toothed stag film
  02/04/12
I think everyone however, the associates would actually be ...
Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action
  02/04/12
of course
Gold multi-colored indirect expression
  02/04/12
I have seen a few male senior associates/of counsel do four ...
crystalline insecure station
  02/04/12
are they looked down upon at all?
buck-toothed stag film
  02/04/12
I think they are senior enough that it does not matter much....
crystalline insecure station
  02/04/12
Does anyone know the going salary for part-time lawyers at b...
burgundy multi-billionaire state
  06/05/12
anyone do this in corporate, specifically m&a, securitie...
Impressive navy boltzmann stage
  06/05/12
It's really tough. I know one transactional attorney who did...
garnet hunting ground abode
  06/05/12
This never works in the long run. You end up with 80% of the...
garnet hunting ground abode
  06/05/12
Exception: Trusts & Estates
burgundy multi-billionaire state
  06/05/12
I could see that. Though not too many big firms have that pr...
garnet hunting ground abode
  06/05/12
Not to be argumentative, but almost every large general prac...
burgundy multi-billionaire state
  06/05/12
Really? Huh. I've worked at a couple west coast-based firms ...
garnet hunting ground abode
  06/05/12
Wrong. And T&E is a marginal practice group at those bi...
Peach Beady-eyed Library Sex Offender
  06/05/12
It may be marginal, but they offer it to be full service to ...
burgundy multi-billionaire state
  06/05/12
Yes, I know a number of senior associates/of counsel males t...
Sadistic painfully honest gunner telephone
  06/05/12
hey earl's brother shut the fuck up
Aromatic know-it-all macaca
  06/05/12
really PT or just have to be there at 4 every day to pick th...
cyan coiffed locus organic girlfriend
  06/05/12


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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:07 PM
Author: buck-toothed stag film

anyone know anyone who has done this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893269)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:07 PM
Author: Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action

women with kids

they get marginalized but never fired

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893270)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: buck-toothed stag film

what about male associates with health issues? same issue?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893273)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action

never seen a male associate go PT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893276)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:09 PM
Author: buck-toothed stag film

so u think it would be looked down upon?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893282)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893287)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:14 PM
Author: buck-toothed stag film

by the firm as a whole (i.e. you could get fired more easily) or by random associates and partners who think it's weird?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893299)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:20 PM
Author: Mahogany unholy jew affirmative action

I think everyone

however, the associates would actually be cooler than the partners.

From what I have seen of female PT associates, partners and associates generally don't want to be on the same team as them as they are not going to be able to give 110%/killself on deals or cases. this leads to them getting less than optimal assignments. That being said, people are largely sympathetic to them (with the exception of some asshats), because they are doing it for their kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893326)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 1:39 PM
Author: Gold multi-colored indirect expression

of course

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893852)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:10 PM
Author: crystalline insecure station

I have seen a few male senior associates/of counsel do four days a week, I think for family reasons in each case. I have no idea how that is balanced with deals. Maybe it's in reality more like four days plus one telecommuting plus a slightly lower billables expectation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893284)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:14 PM
Author: buck-toothed stag film

are they looked down upon at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893301)



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Date: February 4th, 2012 12:15 PM
Author: crystalline insecure station

I think they are senior enough that it does not matter much. But I doubt any will make partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#19893307)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:33 PM
Author: burgundy multi-billionaire state

Does anyone know the going salary for part-time lawyers at big firms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830157)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:34 PM
Author: Impressive navy boltzmann stage

anyone do this in corporate, specifically m&a, securities or finance, where deals require 24/7 attention during peak times?

how is it possible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830170)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:00 PM
Author: garnet hunting ground abode

It's really tough. I know one transactional attorney who did this and she still works 24/7 when required, she just tries to take more time off between deals. But I spoke to her a couple weeks ago and it isn't working out like she hoped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830415)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:58 PM
Author: garnet hunting ground abode

This never works in the long run. You end up with 80% of the pay and 100% of the hours. Also, it doesn't work for the same reason that big law is tough on everyone -- there is no set schedule. How can you commit to picking your kids up at 3 pm on certain days and having them in the afternoon if you are in trial or a deposition? What if you have a deal closing and there is a 5 pm conference call or you need to go to the printer? Biglaw is the opposite of what is needed in order to make a part-time system work. There are probably rare exceptions (some counsel come to mind), but overall it's a tough deal to work out.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830393)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 2:59 PM
Author: burgundy multi-billionaire state

Exception: Trusts & Estates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830403)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:01 PM
Author: garnet hunting ground abode

I could see that. Though not too many big firms have that practice any more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830421)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:02 PM
Author: burgundy multi-billionaire state

Not to be argumentative, but almost every large general practice firm in NYC that I can think of has a T&E group.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830435)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:15 PM
Author: garnet hunting ground abode

Really? Huh. I've worked at a couple west coast-based firms and there isn't anyone with that practice. My bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830530)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 4:32 PM
Author: Peach Beady-eyed Library Sex Offender

Wrong. And T&E is a marginal practice group at those big firms that do have it (WFG, Debevoise, Schulte, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830987)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 5:44 PM
Author: burgundy multi-billionaire state

It may be marginal, but they offer it to be full service to clients. It's precisely because it is marginal that allows someone to easily work part time.

The people I know in T&E working full time basically work part time compared to most other biglawyers i know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20831412)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:11 PM
Author: Sadistic painfully honest gunner telephone

Yes, I know a number of senior associates/of counsel males that do this for family reasons. Unless you let the firm bitch you around, there is no problem with this provided that you add value with your work. If you have been kept around long enough to be senior associate/of counsel, you probably add value.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830499)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: Aromatic know-it-all macaca

hey earl's brother shut the fuck up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20830518)



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Date: June 5th, 2012 6:13 PM
Author: cyan coiffed locus organic girlfriend

really PT or just have to be there at 4 every day to pick the kids up from school?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1864934&forum_id=2#20831621)