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is this formal correct english?

I read an article published by a journal. in the middle o...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
It's fine.
orange laughsome cumskin organic girlfriend
  03/31/12
y not
Arousing international law enforcement agency
  03/31/12
and while OP is faggot
claret church
  03/31/12
i am talking about this article http://res.oxfordjournals.o...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
It's not a pretty sentence, but it's fine.
orange laughsome cumskin organic girlfriend
  03/31/12
what's the problem?
beady-eyed lay newt
  03/31/12
It's correct; it's just not correct stylistically.
Spectacular grizzly resort pistol
  03/31/12
thats my point.
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
Okay then.
Spectacular grizzly resort pistol
  03/31/12
please avoid the use of semicolons when a period will suffic...
claret church
  03/31/12
credited i cant stand writers who use semi-colons libera...
Crystalline Mad-dog Skullcap Ratface
  03/31/12
another thing that bugged me was his use of "the profes...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
Are you ESL?
Spectacular grizzly resort pistol
  03/31/12
not really. moved to the US at 6. I found it strange that a...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
"the professions" is a douchey way to refer to a s...
Arousing international law enforcement agency
  03/31/12
but in an academic essay, one should first define what those...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
nah
Arousing international law enforcement agency
  03/31/12
tell me, what are these professions?
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
YOU ARE ESL faggot. Never forget it. FOB.
brindle shrine
  03/31/12
he probably uses it better than you do, rudolph
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
it's acceptable journalistically -- but a lot of thinngs acc...
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
lmao 180 pwnage of that dumb bitch
Soul-stirring Naked Deer Antler Messiness
  03/31/12
who is dumb
Bonkers Pontificating Famous Landscape Painting Menage
  03/31/12
is that a redundancy or are you asking a question? the chink...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
who was referring to journals? i was saying simply that w...
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
um, the OP said he saw it in a "journal" in his fi...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
i know that - what i mean is that i was making a point aside...
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
wait, so if OP had been like, "I read this sentence in ...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
that's not analogous, because journalism is an example of a ...
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
do you think that such usages in this academic journal artic...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
not in the strict sense; yes in the stylistic sense.
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
you're not buying my defense of and while?
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
oh okay, so you're saying journalistic english IS correct En...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
8.75-9, but not really my type.
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
why not? 34 inch hips to 22 inch waist not enough of a ratio...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
EDIT: In this second set of pics, I'd say she's 9.25-9.5
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
face might just be an 8.4 or something, but I don't think yo...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
she's got a smoking body & very pretty face. i just have...
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
ah okay. well I have to admit, I missed seeing you on the bo...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
tytyty yes, i'm on the mend :)
thriller walnut giraffe chad
  03/31/12
oh, well good to know you'll be in a condition to travel to ...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
there's no reason to add "and" before while.
mewling purple church building hunting ground
  03/31/12
in a vacuum, no, but usually the and relates to something in...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
I would say the writer of the article does not write very go...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
there's just nothing wrong with and while. maybe there's som...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
you can skim over the entire work. there are ill-constructe...
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
how about you somehow post the part at issue? edit: I see it...
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
in the sense that i came to the us when i was 6.
Free-loading Chapel
  03/31/12
see, we guessed it
stimulating multi-billionaire
  03/31/12
left out a comma probably
Crystalline Mad-dog Skullcap Ratface
  03/31/12


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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:14 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

I read an article published by a journal.

in the middle of the article, a paragraph begins as follows:

"And while ....."

this is not proper english, is it?

I was astonished.... it was supposed to be a first-rate journal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357407)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:17 PM
Author: orange laughsome cumskin organic girlfriend

It's fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357418)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:15 PM
Author: Arousing international law enforcement agency

y not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357412)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:18 PM
Author: claret church

and while OP is faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357421)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:20 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

i am talking about this article

http://res.oxfordjournals.org/content/61/251/591.full

the author is ESL but the article had gone through rounds of editing.... before it went to print.

some sentences need to be rewritten.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357432)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:22 PM
Author: orange laughsome cumskin organic girlfriend

It's not a pretty sentence, but it's fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357437)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:22 PM
Author: beady-eyed lay newt

what's the problem?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357440)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:23 PM
Author: Spectacular grizzly resort pistol

It's correct; it's just not correct stylistically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357442)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

thats my point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357445)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:25 PM
Author: Spectacular grizzly resort pistol

Okay then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357446)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:57 PM
Author: claret church

please avoid the use of semicolons when a period will suffice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357537)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:32 PM
Author: Crystalline Mad-dog Skullcap Ratface

credited

i cant stand writers who use semi-colons liberally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357677)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:26 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

another thing that bugged me was his use of "the professions".

can you use "the professions" to refer to certain jobs? or must you specify what those professions are before describing them as "the professions"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357448)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:27 PM
Author: Spectacular grizzly resort pistol

Are you ESL?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357452)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:32 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

not really. moved to the US at 6.

I found it strange that a journal would publish something that contains so many stylistically incorrect sentences.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357468)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:35 PM
Author: Arousing international law enforcement agency

"the professions" is a douchey way to refer to a specific subset of jobs, yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357473)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:41 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

but in an academic essay, one should first define what those professions are, instead of assuming that readers have the requisite knowledge or have the douchey mindset as the writer or the society he's describing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357491)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:42 PM
Author: Arousing international law enforcement agency

nah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357494)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:43 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

tell me, what are these professions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357499)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:16 PM
Author: brindle shrine

YOU ARE ESL faggot. Never forget it. FOB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357916)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

he probably uses it better than you do, rudolph

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357925)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 9:38 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

it's acceptable journalistically -- but a lot of thinngs acceptable journalistically amount to SPS writing, IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357485)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:04 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire
Subject: um, stuff in journals and journalism aren't the same



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357565)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:19 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Naked Deer Antler Messiness

lmao

180 pwnage of that dumb bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357608)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: Bonkers Pontificating Famous Landscape Painting Menage

who is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357664)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:34 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

is that a redundancy or are you asking a question? the chink is saying jules is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357687)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

who was referring to journals?

i was saying simply that within the world of journalism it's ok, but it may nonetheless be SPS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357790)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:56 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

um, the OP said he saw it in a "journal" in his first post. later he linked to oxfordjournals. this isn't journalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357795)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:57 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

i know that - what i mean is that i was making a point aside from whether it's ok within journals, specifically. i.e.-in journalism it might be considered ok. period. no reference to journals, specifically, on my part.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357801)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:59 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

wait, so if OP had been like, "I read this sentence in John Rawls's A Theory of Justice, is that correct English," it would be in any way a sensical response to say, "well, it's correct for journalistic purposes"? Yeah, I mean, it might also be correct for talking in the New Orleans ghetto purposes but we're not talking about those purposes, are we?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357810)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:03 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

that's not analogous, because journalism is an example of a common/widely-accepted format for which there are stringent guidelines of usage and acceptability("formal, correct english"). furthermore, it evinces a situation where even if usage guidelines are adhered to (i.e." formal, correct english"), the net result may still be SPS. one need not specifically and strictly refer to journals when discussing "proper, grammatical english", since this is not restricted merely to journals.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357830)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

do you think that such usages in this academic journal article are bad, then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357839)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:06 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

not in the strict sense; yes in the stylistic sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357849)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:09 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

you're not buying my defense of and while?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357866)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:05 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

oh okay, so you're saying journalistic english IS correct English, just not necessarily well-written English. I see. well on that note, rate her:

http://ashleysky.tumblr.com/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357844)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:07 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

8.75-9, but not really my type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357853)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

why not? 34 inch hips to 22 inch waist not enough of a ratio for you? maybe this is a better-edited collection of photos, that's just her blog

http://www.uncoached.com/2012/03/28/shes-uncoachable-ashley-sky-is-just-unfair/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357863)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:10 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

EDIT:

In this second set of pics, I'd say she's 9.25-9.5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357871)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:12 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

face might just be an 8.4 or something, but I don't think you can engineer a better body

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357885)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:13 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

she's got a smoking body & very pretty face. i just have a subjective preference for less girlish/more dramatic faces & more muscular legs.

still, she's an 9.5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357896)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:14 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

ah okay. well I have to admit, I missed seeing you on the board yesterday. hope you're feeling kind of better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357904)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:15 PM
Author: thriller walnut giraffe chad

tytyty

yes, i'm on the mend :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357906)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 11:16 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

oh, well good to know you'll be in a condition to travel to black clubs and such in the upcoming month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357921)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:06 PM
Author: mewling purple church building hunting ground

there's no reason to add "and" before while.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357570)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:34 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

in a vacuum, no, but usually the and relates to something in the previous sentence along the same lines as the stuff that follows the while. Like, "Kripke reads Wittgenstein this way. But [that's partly wrong for x reason]. And while Kripke had a point about [y, that point doesn't make his whole reading of W stand up]." If you took the and out, the connection between the two sentences wouldn't be made as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357683)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

I would say the writer of the article does not write very good english.

those sentences could have been written in a much better way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357750)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:48 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

there's just nothing wrong with and while. maybe there's something wrong with other parts of the sentences. you can post them and i'll comment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357755)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:51 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

you can skim over the entire work.

there are ill-constructed sentences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357767)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

how about you somehow post the part at issue? edit: I see it. I wouldn't start a para that way. but you seem ESL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357768)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:54 PM
Author: Free-loading Chapel

in the sense that i came to the us when i was 6.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357782)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: stimulating multi-billionaire

see, we guessed it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357786)



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Date: March 31st, 2012 10:33 PM
Author: Crystalline Mad-dog Skullcap Ratface

left out a comma probably

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1912963&forum_id=2#20357681)