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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:07 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot No more than 10% of the population gets any use from a university education.
The rest should be packed off to jobs training programs. Learn to build a fucking car, Detroit. |
Date: June 1st, 2012 9:08 AM Author: Contagious Heaven Yeah! Instead of going to "college," they should just go get jobs!
oh wait.. |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:27 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot Learn a real skill. Join the military, police, firefighters, etc. Get your plumber's license. There are plenty of good jobs for people who aren't scared of hard work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804850) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:39 AM Author: anal becky All of that stuff is tied to either government budgets that are in the process of disintegrating, or to our SPS real estate market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804901) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:40 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot Yeah, well the same is true for college! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804908) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:49 AM Author: anal becky Not when colleges cop dat student loan money. But hey, telling kids to forgo a useful signal for employers is great advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804956) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:51 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot So many students have it that it's no longer a useful signal for employers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804963) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:54 AM Author: anal becky That's because they're slashing the number of jerbs on offer in the first place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804983) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:55 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot Jobs are there, college students just don't have the skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804985) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:57 AM Author: anal becky The "skills" being "must have nine years experience with Ruby on Rails". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804997) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:18 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot Tough luck. Figure out a way to market yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807484) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:21 PM Author: anal becky Yeah, like forging a resume. You never fail to impress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807505) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:31 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot I didn't say that. How's about figuring out a way to sell what you do have? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807555) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:37 PM Author: anal becky I think lying on my resume to a company that demands more experience with a technology than the length of time it has existed is a valid signalling device. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807581) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:39 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot Look for another company. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807594) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:44 PM Author: anal becky Oh, this sort of thing is catching on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807634) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:21 PM Author: Green Gaping No the skilled trades thing is legit. It is legitimately a better choice than college right now for the vast majority of people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807504) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:26 PM Author: anal becky The trades are in the toilet because the real estate market is still doing so badly and it will implode further if more people go into it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807528) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:26 PM Author: Green Gaping It might not be a golden ticket but it's still better than college. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807530) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:33 PM Author: anal becky Virtually all of the top growth sectors require very advanced training, computer skills, soft skills, and the like. This isn't 19th century Chicago anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807563) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:35 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot Please describe these advanced soft skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807574) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:43 PM Author: anal becky Budgeting, negotiating, motivating a group of people. The sort of thing even top leaders have failed at repeatedly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807626) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:44 PM Author: Green Gaping Right, but we're talking about stuff you learn in college. I.e., not that stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807631) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:47 PM Author: anal becky These courses are taught but it's not what most students are choosing on their own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807657) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:49 PM Author: Green Gaping *takes negotiation 101 from a career academic*
*pwns at life* |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:44 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot You can only learn these things on the job. That's why we should be getting more people into jobs out of high school and training them as they work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807635) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:51 PM Author: anal becky Not happening. American companies are giving up completely with on the job training because they are getting skilled enough people out of the university system and will keep pushing on that, and making the grads do 2/3/4 people's jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807683) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:57 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot That's why I'd suggest government intervention to incentivize job training. Most of this market distortion is due to government intervention, so some corrective action is overdue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807726) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 6:08 PM Author: anal becky Companies are not going to put up with the government telling them who to hire. And this sort of thing has been set up with many education systems inside and outside the US and that is always what happens, the company makes sure it has no obligation to hire them. They are happy with the status quo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807786) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 6:09 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot Tax the companies that don't participate, subsidize the ones that do. They'll figure out the bottom line soon enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807790) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 6:10 PM Author: anal becky *gobbles up you're incentive grants*
*keeps doing same thing anyway*
*lolz at angry letter from Labor Department*
*letters stop coming after threats to move to China*
But, more seriously, companies already do get subsidize workers in the form of college grads. |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 6:13 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot If the US had something like the German system, we wouldn't have these problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807825) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:42 PM Author: Green Gaping People still make very good money as plumbers and welders and stuff. They aren't growth sectors, but there is a labor shortage in them because too many people are irrationally going to college. So, for those who get into these fields, it will basically be like being in a growth sector. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807616) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:57 AM Author: Diverse frum gay wizard athletic conference "There are plenty of good jobs for people who aren't scared of hard work."
The problem is that the number of decent blue collar jobs is rapidly shrinking. Cities and towns that were once solidly blue-collar middle-class are devolving into second-world dumps.
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:18 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot Part of this has been *because* of the mad scramble for college education. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807490) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:21 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Deep Chapel Bbw cr. But kids are brought up being told that every one of them can be a Doctor, Lawyer, Astronaut, President...whatever.
However, only a small percent have the innate intelligence/motivation/reason to actually do these things. But, b/c every idiot can cry discrimination for some fucking reason, they get into the professions and now America blows......Thanks Jesse Jackson and Elizabeth "Spotted Cunt" Warren |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:32 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot MFCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807557) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:29 AM Author: unhinged location persian There's some truth to this.
My brother is a truck driver and they are ALWAYS looking for people with the specialized license. Most of the big companies (UPS, FedEx, etc.) pay a decent wage.
The bottom of the barrel kids at shit colleges should probably be looking at this type of work. But most think it's below them |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:32 AM Author: opaque high-end personal credit line What's insane is that I would have been better off being an electrician instead of going to a t14 law school, even though I make low six figures. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804867) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:35 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot That's true for lots of kids. Do you still owe student loans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804888) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:36 AM Author: unhinged location persian Well, let's be honest here.
if you owned your own business, yes, your statement is true.
if you were a union type of guy, no.
at the same time, you probably won't be making six figures forever, unless you land something inhouse after biglaw. |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 10:16 AM Author: Pink trump supporter jew not making 6 figures is pretty hard after biglaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20805087) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 10:19 AM Author: unhinged location persian depends on how long you're in biglaw.
i left after 1.5 years. i went bigfed and didn't get 100k when i started.
i'm doing well now though. |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:35 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot Apprenticeships would be a good idea for the middle-of-the-barrel kids. Essentially, you work an internship with the first year subsidized by the government and earn benefits in subsequent years based on job performance.
Schools should also be forced to cap tuition if they accept federal loans. |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:37 AM Author: unhinged location persian I think Germany has a big time apprenticeship government program?
I agree with your second statement. |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:40 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot The German system is something like what I'm thinking of. They have the University of Applied Sciences, which focuses exclusively on professional skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804905) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:38 AM Author: Hyperactive menage idea he suggested (socialist) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804895) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:41 AM Author: Spectacular mentally impaired dog poop (tard who doesn't understand what socialist means) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804910) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:41 AM Author: dun mental disorder spot If you want no government intervention in the market, I'd be fine with that too. But I don't think most kids paid out of pocket for college, nor did they obtain loans at market rates. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804911) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:56 AM Author: unhinged location persian this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804990) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 9:52 AM Author: Contagious Heaven too many people are making stupid threads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20804969) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 11:40 AM Author: Poppy house-broken nowag Germany does this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20805480) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:39 PM Author: brilliant box office round eye Not 10% but no more than 20%. There is enough need for CS people, accountants, teachers, doctors, etc. that 20% would benefit. A good 50% of the population should have AA degrees in some trade. 95% of Liberal arts should be eliminated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807596) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 5:40 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot CS people, accountants, and teachers should go to trade schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807600) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 6:13 PM Author: pearl appetizing stag film coldplay fan Too many colleges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807833) |
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Date: June 1st, 2012 6:14 PM Author: dun mental disorder spot Reduce the demand, the supply will drop too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1961198&forum_id=2#20807844) |