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Budget, economy in crisis - Romney focuses on... Israel
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:01 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot lol. THIS is considered a "moderate, pragmatic" republican?
Romney: Obama fears Israeli attack on Iran more than Iran nukes
By Paul West
June 16, 2012, 10:19 a.m.
Washington— In hawkish remarks that drew cheers from an audience of religious conservatives, Mitt Romney accused President Obama on Saturday of being more afraid that Israel might attack Iran than that Iran will develop a nuclear weapon.
The Republican presidential candidate, who frequently attacks the administration for failing to back Israel’s government more aggressively, ratcheted up his criticism a notch. He responded with ridicule when asked what he would do, if elected, to strengthen U.S. relations with the Jewish state.
“I think, by and large, you can just look at the things the president has done and do the opposite,” Romney said, to laughter and applause from members of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, an evangelical Christian political organization.
"You look at his policies with regards to Iran," Romney continued. "He's almost sounded like he's more frightened that Israel might take military action than he's concerned that Iran might become nuclear."
Those words prompted prolonged applause and cheering from an audience of 250 in the ballroom of a Washington hotel.
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-pn-mitt-romney-obama-israel-20120616,0,487586.story |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:17 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
Date: June 16th, 2012 6:02 PM Author: Sickened stead halford omg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899100) |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:03 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot "But perhaps overarching is this: I would not want to show a dime's worth of distance between ourselves and our allies like Israel. If we have disagreements, you know, we can talk about them behind closed doors. But to the world, you show that we're locked arm-in-arm," he said."
lol @ america calling itself an "independent" nation...
romney also wants to arm the al qaeda crazies in syria. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:19 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:04 PM Author: exciting brindle ladyboy ROMNEY: The actions that I will take will be actions recommended and supported by Israeli leaders. I don’t seek to take actions independent of what our allies think is best, and if Israel’s leaders thought that a move of that nature would be helpful to their efforts, then that’s something I’ll be inclined to do. But again, that’s a decision which I would look to the Israeli leadership to help guide. I don’t think America should play the role of the leader of the peace process, instead we should stand by our ally. Again, my inclination is to follow the guidance of our ally Israel, as to where our facilities and embassies would exist.
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In a telling exchange during a debate in December, Mr. Romney criticized Mr. Gingrich for making a disparaging remark about Palestinians, declaring: “Before I made a statement of that nature, I’d get on the phone to my friend Bibi Netanyahu and say: ‘Would it help if I say this? What would you like me to do?’ “
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:17 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:05 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot republicans, explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899125) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:17 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:06 PM Author: Hairraiser feces dragon Sheldon Adelson flicks tongue in delight. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899130) |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:07 PM Author: Sickened stead halford EXPLAIN YOURSELF, reptiles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899138) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:17 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:19 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot is a weak tu quoque argument honestly the best you can offer?
what makes you think that people are choosing between obama and romney as opposed to gary johnson and romney or something?
can you phrase your tu quoque in gary johnson terms now? or even better, offer an argument that ISN'T a blatant logical fallacy? |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:21 AM Author: diverse idiot oh, great. a libtard gets irate when his opponent combats his straw man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902246) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:22 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot so you DON'T have a non tu quoque argument?
what is the assurance that romney WON'T waste american taxpayer money on an iran war?
gary johnson won't. we KNOW that. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:27 AM Author: diverse idiot "american taxpayer money"
what % of american taxpayer money as a portion of GDP would be spent? you seem like a fiscal illiterate. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:29 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot let's say my desire is 0.0% assured (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902279) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:31 AM Author: diverse idiot maybe you should worry about six-figure federal retiree pensions that dwarf any potential costs if you want spending under control. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902286) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:32 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot how is romney preferable in that regard over gary johnson? plus, an iran war could easily wipe out any savings over obama, too. george w. bush spent perhaps 3 trillion on iraq - and iran is much bigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902291) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:39 AM Author: diverse idiot you do understand the role israel would play in this, correct? just LOL @ your utter ignorance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902303) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:40 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot "Hey guys, Romney says he might invade Iran, but I super-double-plus secret promise that it won't cost any money lol just shut the fuck up and vote Romney!"
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:44 AM Author: diverse idiot "Romney says he might invade Iran"
Are you seriously retarded? |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:47 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot "I would make it very clear that for us, as well as for them, it is unacceptable for Iran to become a nuclear nation and that we're prepared to take ANY AND ALL action to keep that from happening,"
--Willard "Mitt" Romney; June 16, 2012
EXPLAIN |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:48 AM Author: diverse idiot You do understand the difference between Iran and Iraq, correct? Please tell me you do before I continue this conversation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902324) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:49 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot "ANY AND ALL action"
where did romney specifically exclude "occupation" or "ground troops" from the phrase "ANY AND ALL"?
go ahead; tell me where. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:50 AM Author: diverse idiot Yes, so we'll have to INVADE IRAN TO REMOVE THEIR NUCLEAR ARSENAL YOU UTTER RETARD? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902329) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:53 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot romney says we might. gary johnson says he won't. pretty much end of story.
furthermore, i don't really CARE if iran gets nukes. nor should romney. he should care about AMERICA. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:55 AM Author: diverse idiot protip: you don't need to invade iran to remove their nuclear capability. you seem like a loony.
oh, look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 4:03 AM Author: Vibrant coffee pot so you admit: there is a much higher chance that romney will attack and potentially occupy iran than either gary johnson or obama - especially gary johnson.
got it. thanks. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 4:05 AM Author: diverse idiot lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902353) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:04 PM Author: Mint newt school cafeteria lol@being guilty of your own dishonesty.
*wants conclusion to be favorable for obama* *can't do, so presses OP to compare romney to johnson* *once something looks more favorable for johnson, magically attributes that same quality to obama* *gets favorable conclusion for obama*
you are seriously retarded if you think other people cant see through your ridiculously amateur-hour reasoning.
Newsflash, fuckwad, Obama is just as likely to attack Iran as Romney is. He's already teamed up with Isreal re: Stuxnet http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?pagewanted=all |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:34 PM Author: chestnut kitchen goyim speaking of ridiculously amateur hour reasoning.
"Newsflash, fuckwad, Obama is just as likely to attack Iran as Romney is. He's already teamed up with Isreal re: Stuxnet http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/middleeast/obama-ordered-wave-of-cyberattacks-against-iran.html?pagewanted=all"
lol just lol |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:37 PM Author: Mint newt school cafeteria Obama has been in 6 wars. He's showing no signs of slowing down. You are a fool if you think he doesn't have his sights set on attacking Iran, as that article indicates he does.
lol just lol all you want. Obama is a warhawk. if youre comparing him to romney on that issue, it's a hobson's choice, just like it is on deficit spending. So yes i do think an attack on iran is equally likely or equally unlikely under either administration.
I think both guys are well aware from Bush II's strategic mistakes that the boots on the ground approach doesn't work with insurgents, which is all youre left with in the ME after the initial surge takes out a country's central command. |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:09 PM Author: Stimulating business firm just a lackey for radical zionists Romney is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899154) |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:11 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot i don't dislike israel. i like it just fine. but this is america. i don't fundamentally CARE about israel in the way i do about my own nation. so it tends to rub the wrong way when a potential future PRESIDENT can't seem to understand that putting america first might entail not ALWAYS "walking arm-in-arm" with ANY particular foreign nation. that's what happens sometimes when you put AMERICAN interests first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899168) |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:18 PM Author: snowy lodge Yeah, pretty much this.
Israel has the right to defend itself, and it obviously has much more respect for human rights than any of its neighbors.
But that doesn't mean that America should literally DEFER to Israeli leaders when it comes to its foreign policy re: the middle east, which seems to be what Romney is suggesting. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:18 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:15 PM Author: hyperactive arrogant hall volcanic crater The below poster is right - he's pandering to evangelical christians, not real zionists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899199) |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:12 PM Author: snowy lodge I can kinda see the purpose of this, from Romney's perspective.
As a Mormon, he is going to have some trouble with the evangelical types, unless he can really show he's on their side on one of their pet issues.
Coming out really hard against abortion would help him with the christian right, but hurt him with a lot of moderate women.
Taking a strong pro-Israel stance, on the other hand, will endear him to the Christian right, while not really offending any significant group.
The trick, it would seem, is to seem strongly supportive of Israel, without actually saying "I will launch a war with Iran."
If you look at public opinion polls, it's clear that there are more people in America who support Israel than who oppose it.
However, the neutral and pro-Muslim camps COMBINED outweigh the pro-Israel camp, which I think explains why the consensus on this issue is pretty much, "keep supplying Israel with whatever it needs, but screw getting involved in a war with Iran."
So I think vaguely pro-Israel rhetoric will help Romney with one or two key constituencies, and not hurt him with any, PROVIDED he doesn't cross a certain line.
We'll have to wait and see... |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:15 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot "But perhaps overarching is this: I would not want to show a dime's worth of distance between ourselves and our allies like Israel. If we have disagreements, you know, we can talk about them behind closed doors. But to the world, you show that we're locked arm-in-arm," he said.
that would seem to include the possibility of american troops on the ground in iran, would it not? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 6:14 PM Author: hyperactive arrogant hall volcanic crater "an audience of religious conservatives" He was just trying to talk about things they'd understand and care about. The economy isn't one of them. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:18 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 7:15 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot conservatives, honestly - why don't you want to put american interests first? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20899486) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 1:19 AM Author: low-t crimson menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20901676) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:15 AM Author: awkward swashbuckling brunch private investor how does illegal alien amnesty or turning our military into a gay rights laboratory help AMERICAN interests (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902223) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:17 AM Author: diverse idiot http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decoder-Wire/2012/0615/Obama-fundraiser-at-Sarah-Jessica-Parker-s-house-How-d-it-go-video
Why isn't Obama focusing on the economy? |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:19 AM Author: awkward swashbuckling brunch private investor He's too busy giving amnesty to lawbreakers while AMericans are out of work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902238) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:19 AM Author: diverse idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902239) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:22 AM Author: awkward swashbuckling brunch private investor i am biased but Romney is not a neocon at heart. He's more of a GHW Bush type who will be very judicious about using troops. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902248) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:30 AM Author: Sickened stead halford how do u know when he is saying the exact opposite? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902283) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 3:33 AM Author: White Stag Film Gay Wizard focus? he talked about it. he's talked about the economy, in the past week, I'd guess, 50 times more (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902292) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:08 PM Author: Mint newt school cafeteria shitlibs know no end. Obama can go weeks without giving more than a glib "the private sector is doing fine," and yet still claim that he 'understands' the economy, yet if another candidate mentions anything else, it's a conclusory 'not focusing on the economy.'
Shitlibbery will be the death of America. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:28 PM Author: Filthy geriatric shrine main people tbf, Obama gave some sort of economic speech on thursday or friday, I think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20903013) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:39 PM Author: Mint newt school cafeteria o you're right, the one where the most newsworthy aspect was that Obama will now be addressing Romney as "mr" instead "governor" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20903068) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 12:14 PM Author: titillating buff bawdyhouse laser beams LOL shitlibs DESTROYED in this thread. Going after Romney while Obama spends most of his energy on fundraising is the dumbest tactic these faggots have resorted to yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20902963) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 5:29 PM Author: Vibrant coffee pot republicans, explain why you want to outsource american foreign policy to the whims of the likud party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1972157&forum_id=2#20904621) |
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