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How credited is it to OWN a restaurant/bar?

And bartend at it. Credited way to meet girls?
Carnelian scourge upon the earth
  06/24/12
fairly credited, but if you don't know the business you will...
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/24/12
Work your ass off just to add to the like 80% 5-year failure...
Stirring Lay
  06/24/12
I never got that stat. So what? 98% of people didn't get a ...
Transparent Pervert Doctorate
  06/24/12
wut
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/24/12
but dude, you can't just... work for yourself, bro. *puf...
Cracking dragon
  06/24/12
u can still make bank for 5 years and close it when it becom...
floppy deep telephone range
  06/24/12
That's the typical business cycle. Immediately start out by ...
razzmatazz very tactful bawdyhouse
  06/24/12
...
effete institution
  06/24/12
lol
Autistic Coldplay Fan Library
  06/24/12
Would you name it using a series of punctuation marks?
Ungodly Masturbator
  06/24/12
PUMO actually sounds trendy AND cool bro
Transparent Pervert Doctorate
  06/24/12
Pumo would be a fucking great name.
effete institution
  06/24/12
not that cr I'd imagine, have to work an absurd amount if yo...
Ivory vivacious hell community account
  06/24/12
A classy bar would be nice. I'd hate to own an actual restau...
supple station headpube
  06/24/12
basically being sam malone would be great
Ivory vivacious hell community account
  06/24/12
Yeah, that would be nice.
supple station headpube
  06/25/12
Is a bar an easier business than a restaurant? The markups o...
Puce generalized bond
  06/24/12
Greetings, 1. love the moniker 2. bar are pretty cool ...
Motley garrison
  06/24/12
it's super easy bro. i don't know why you aren't doing it ri...
cerebral public bath
  06/24/12
Cause I've got bigger plans: http://www.xoxohth.com/threa...
Puce generalized bond
  06/24/12
pretty credited, and you can bang the bartenders too
Motley garrison
  06/24/12
What kind of start up capital required for opening a bar is ...
Transparent Pervert Doctorate
  06/24/12
not too much. who cares? you make it back in the 1st year an...
cerebral public bath
  06/24/12
I've got to imagine rent is fucking absurd
Ivory vivacious hell community account
  06/24/12
do it in a college town bro
Motley garrison
  06/24/12
Figure 100-200K for liquor license alone.
angry cowardly elastic band address
  06/25/12
Greetings, TX liquor license is under $7K/yr.
Sticky indigo love of her life
  06/25/12
In fact, dooberstein shoud just own a restaurant. Biglaw mon...
cerebral public bath
  06/24/12
Why don't more senior associates who wash out of Biglaw with...
Transparent Pervert Doctorate
  06/24/12
(michael clayton)
Mentally impaired fortuitous meteor field
  06/24/12
True.
effete institution
  06/24/12
lol, this is my situation. no way should you sink your life ...
Autistic Coldplay Fan Library
  06/24/12
bars are better investments than restaurants. also most plac...
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/25/12
well, you should work in a couple bars for a year before you...
Autistic Coldplay Fan Library
  06/25/12
completely agree bro
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/25/12
not at all. restaurants/bars are financial time bombs.
opaque pontificating pit
  06/24/12
honestly though, this is a much better idea outside of a dec...
Ivory vivacious hell community account
  06/24/12
i dunno man. i'm from a small town and the turnover on mom a...
opaque pontificating pit
  06/24/12
I'm talking just a bar, I'm from a smallish town, and up unt...
Ivory vivacious hell community account
  06/24/12
finding the right market is key. most places have a shitload...
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/25/12
Saw the same thing in the Poortown, USA where I grew up. Th...
rough-skinned high-end hall goyim
  06/25/12
Now the guy's got Paulie as a partner. Any problems, he goes...
effete institution
  06/24/12
I'm probably the only person here who has actually owned bot...
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/24/12
you can't get good enough insurance to avoid drunk driving i...
Ivory vivacious hell community account
  06/25/12
insurance is an absolute must, but it's expensive as hell, a...
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/25/12
what if you have a mandatory i.d. checking policy, as i ...
Motley garrison
  06/25/12
yeah, the problem is that most of the time you want to serve...
greedy casino keepsake machete
  06/25/12
Seems awful.
Bateful Temple Rigpig
  06/25/12
Greetings, (Furious pro-Rick's trolling)
Sticky indigo love of her life
  06/25/12


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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:46 PM
Author: Carnelian scourge upon the earth

And bartend at it. Credited way to meet girls?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20951921)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:48 PM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

fairly credited, but if you don't know the business you will almost certainly fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20951933)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: Stirring Lay

Work your ass off just to add to the like 80% 5-year failure rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20951928)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: Transparent Pervert Doctorate

I never got that stat. So what? 98% of people didn't get a 170 LSAT. The average XOer did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20951941)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

wut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20951945)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: Cracking dragon

but dude, you can't just... work for yourself, bro.

*puff puff*

that's like... too hard, man.

*puff*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952095)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: floppy deep telephone range

u can still make bank for 5 years and close it when it becomes unprofitable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952102)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:29 PM
Author: razzmatazz very tactful bawdyhouse

That's the typical business cycle. Immediately start out by making bank and put in years of hard work while watching your sky high profits dwindle to nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952283)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: effete institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952293)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:57 PM
Author: Autistic Coldplay Fan Library

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952549)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: Ungodly Masturbator

Would you name it using a series of punctuation marks?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20951949)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:57 PM
Author: Transparent Pervert Doctorate

PUMO actually sounds trendy AND cool bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952032)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:30 PM
Author: effete institution

Pumo would be a fucking great name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952297)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 10:58 PM
Author: Ivory vivacious hell community account

not that cr I'd imagine, have to work an absurd amount if you added bartending to it, you'd be there until 5 in the morning going over reciepts and inventory and shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952034)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:06 PM
Author: supple station headpube

A classy bar would be nice. I'd hate to own an actual restaurant though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952088)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:08 PM
Author: Ivory vivacious hell community account

basically being sam malone would be great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952101)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: supple station headpube

Yeah, that would be nice.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952579)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:11 PM
Author: Puce generalized bond

Is a bar an easier business than a restaurant? The markups on liquor are high, and I rarely see bars close down. OTOH I can think of a million things that would be a pain about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952133)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:14 PM
Author: Motley garrison

Greetings,

1. love the moniker

2. bar are pretty cool to own, just get good insurance coverage. and dram shop laws are very owner friendly. get a closed circuit camera system if you really want to cya. sit back enjoy, get wasted everyday while you bartend, and bang a bunch of chicks in your back office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952162)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:14 PM
Author: cerebral public bath

it's super easy bro. i don't know why you aren't doing it right this fuckin minute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952170)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:16 PM
Author: Puce generalized bond

Cause I've got bigger plans:

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978786&mc=2&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952190)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:11 PM
Author: Motley garrison

pretty credited, and you can bang the bartenders too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952138)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:14 PM
Author: Transparent Pervert Doctorate

What kind of start up capital required for opening a bar is a decent area Ina primary city?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952163)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:15 PM
Author: cerebral public bath

not too much. who cares? you make it back in the 1st year anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952176)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:15 PM
Author: Ivory vivacious hell community account

I've got to imagine rent is fucking absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952177)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:54 PM
Author: Motley garrison

do it in a college town bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952529)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 4:49 PM
Author: angry cowardly elastic band address

Figure 100-200K for liquor license alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20955608)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 5:03 PM
Author: Sticky indigo love of her life

Greetings,

TX liquor license is under $7K/yr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20955709)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:16 PM
Author: cerebral public bath

In fact, dooberstein shoud just own a restaurant. Biglaw money, w/o ever having to outline for torts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952187)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:23 PM
Author: Transparent Pervert Doctorate

Why don't more senior associates who wash out of Biglaw with 300-400k in savings just do this? Seriously. This sound highly credited if your 33 and didn't make partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952237)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:31 PM
Author: Mentally impaired fortuitous meteor field

(michael clayton)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952305)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:32 PM
Author: effete institution

True.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952310)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: Autistic Coldplay Fan Library

lol, this is my situation. no way should you sink your life savings into a biz that almost always fails and which you know nothing about. odds are you'll be 5 years older, totally broke, with a ruined resume.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952571)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:02 AM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

bars are better investments than restaurants. also most places fail because the owners are morons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952599)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:05 AM
Author: Autistic Coldplay Fan Library

well, you should work in a couple bars for a year before you give it a shot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952625)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:06 AM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

completely agree bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952628)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:24 PM
Author: opaque pontificating pit

not at all. restaurants/bars are financial time bombs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952245)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:25 PM
Author: Ivory vivacious hell community account

honestly though, this is a much better idea outside of a decent city, go to some growing small town and set up shop and you can have a lot more stability if you don't fuck up the entry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952257)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:34 PM
Author: opaque pontificating pit

i dunno man. i'm from a small town and the turnover on mom and pop stuff is incredibly high. there are a handful of restaurants that have been around for 50+ years and about 10x as many that have failed within 5 years. it's not a good business to be in. you're better off franchising a taco hell or some shithole like this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952336)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:58 PM
Author: Ivory vivacious hell community account

I'm talking just a bar, I'm from a smallish town, and up until about 10 years ago there were no non shady bars, the few that have opened up have been in business for over a decade with no signs of slowing down, they're just literally all that's available

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952563)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

finding the right market is key. most places have a shitload of competition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952576)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 2:36 AM
Author: rough-skinned high-end hall goyim

Saw the same thing in the Poortown, USA where I grew up. There was a bar on the main street that was originally called something like Dave & Al's that would close down every two years or so and open up again as Dave & Jim's or Dave & Dan's. Dave owned the property and would convince some other guy he could run a bar after the previous guy failed. There were a few places that were around for decades, but a lot more that we're revolvIng doors of failed mom and pops. It's probably grown a lot harder with the proliferation of outdoor malls full of chain casual dining restaurants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20953371)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:33 PM
Author: effete institution

Now the guy's got Paulie as a partner. Any problems, he goes to Paulie. Trouble with a bill, he can go to Paulie. Trouble with the cops, deliveries, Tommy, he can call Paulie. But now the guy's got to come up with Paulie's money every week. No matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. The place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me. Also, Paulie could do anything. Especially run up bills on the joint's credit. And why not? Nobody's gonna pay for it anyway. And as soon as the deliveries are made in the front door, you move the stuff out the back and sell it at a discount. You take a two hundred dollar case of booze and you sell it for a hundred. It doesn't matter. It's all profit. And then finally, when there's nothing left, when you can't borrow another buck from the bank or buy another case of booze, you bust the joint out. You light a match.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952324)



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Date: June 24th, 2012 11:59 PM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

I'm probably the only person here who has actually owned both a bar and restaurant. Owning a restaurant is way more of a pain in the ass as far as daily bullshit and thin margins but bars have far more potential to ruin you because of drunk driving deaths, fights, theft, etc.

If you don't have experience working in a bar or restaurant you will not survive unless you're very lucky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952573)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:00 AM
Author: Ivory vivacious hell community account

you can't get good enough insurance to avoid drunk driving issues?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952577)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:02 AM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

insurance is an absolute must, but it's expensive as hell, and lots of guys have still been ruined after they get sued for 10 million dollars or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952595)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:46 AM
Author: Motley garrison

what if you have a mandatory i.d. checking policy,

as i was typing "and you don't serve anyone who is visibly drunk" , i realized how that is a problem if you own a bar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952898)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:49 AM
Author: greedy casino keepsake machete

yeah, the problem is that most of the time you want to serve the visibly drunk because if you didn't a) people would get pissed off and not come back b) if you stop serving drunk people you don't have the cash to operate; the entire game is based on serving drunk people c) it's still a he said she said situation where they claim they were overserved and you say they weren't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952932)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 12:15 AM
Author: Bateful Temple Rigpig

Seems awful.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20952699)



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Date: June 25th, 2012 4:57 PM
Author: Sticky indigo love of her life

Greetings,

(Furious pro-Rick's trolling)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1978769&forum_id=2#20955672)