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Just finished "Planet Law School"- how stressful are COLD CALLS?
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:01 PM Author: grizzly costumed forum Are they really as excrucriating as this book depicts them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980448) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:02 PM Author: disrespectful aphrodisiac feces stead nobody really does this anymore, you know ahead of time that you're up to bat the next day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980458) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:27 AM Author: french flatulent shrine bbw what? some profs def still do this breh, especially for 1L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981774) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:29 PM Author: magical school this. and I had one seminar 3L where the asshole would go in a circle around the room with questions and go "right/wrong" for basically 2 hours. it was awful. I was warned. and like many who are deciding to be c/o 2015, I knew better, but did it anyways.
the key to cold calling in 1L is too NOT FREAK OUT ABOUT IT. as a matter of fact, dont wholesale bail on it, but there were many who, because of fear of being called on, overprepped. like don't get too deep into the cases, let the gunners "help you out", because--trust me--they will. keep with the commercial outlines. black letter law. going over old exams. sharpening that IRAC. and you're good. cold calling is a game of knowing the facts from commercial briefs.
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Date: August 4th, 2012 10:06 AM Author: 180 Chartreuse Stage Please, continue to edify us with your tales of being a 1 year of lawschool having master man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256926) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:59 PM Author: stirring fantasy-prone brunch place of business i saw a girl crying during and after her cold call, no joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981042) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:59 PM Author: Galvanic dilemma A girl in my section cried and dropped out after hers, but she was a goon anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21251032) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 3:15 AM Author: light very tactful preventive strike clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256521) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 3:15 AM Author: light very tactful preventive strike clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256522) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:21 AM Author: Rebellious infuriating prole reading party just say pass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981735) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:39 PM Author: Alcoholic hall lol at you betas. who gives a shit. bullshit your way through it. the opinion of your faggot 1L classmates means nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252636) |
Date: June 28th, 2012 11:02 PM Author: diverse gaping take this faggotry to www.top-law-schools.com plz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980457) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:03 PM Author: grizzly costumed forum U mean in topic discourse re law school and the legal profession? Tbf I did select "school related." just filter by advanced/off topic threads bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980470) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:42 PM Author: Appetizing Crackhouse Rigor faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250889) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:03 PM Author: Well-lubricated hilarious abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980471) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:03 PM Author: Well-lubricated hilarious abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980472) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:00 AM Author: Zombie-like Plaza lol. This. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981068) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:34 AM Author: bat shit crazy rehab sandwich correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981810) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 3:25 PM Author: Laughsome Judgmental Gunner this. xoxohth isn't a law school board anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21251267) |
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Date: June 28th, 2012 11:05 PM Author: Chestnut deep lay liquid oxygen one girl fainted (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20980490) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:01 AM Author: silver hairy legs They can be anything from completely painless to immensely stressful. It will depend on a number of things. Here is a non-exhaustive list: the professor's personality, the subject, the extent of your preparation, the size of the lecture, your comfort with public speaking, the length of the engagement, and the specificity and number of questions asked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981080) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:08 AM Author: Citrine big weed whacker cr
in short it depends on the prof |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:11 AM Author: startling business firm FLAME (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981166) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:04 AM Author: Bistre party of the first part locale john yoo cold called me once because he could tell i was gchatting or something. i fucking begged for death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981099) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:06 AM Author: supple slate kitchen cuck he was mad as fukk because of <><><><><><> (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981118) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:06 AM Author: silver hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981120) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 3:14 PM Author: Hairraiser garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21251171) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:27 PM Author: 180 Chartreuse Stage Did he make you stand in a stress position for 20 hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252543) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:35 PM Author: translucent vibrant native thisis one of tthe funniest things ive read here in a long time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252605) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 10:07 AM Author: 180 Chartreuse Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256930) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:28 PM Author: Lemon Glittery School Cafeteria Organic Girlfriend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21253441) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:38 PM Author: Electric red masturbator mental disorder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkqENek7fXs&t=35s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21253532) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:35 PM Author: Maroon unholy regret locus i just saw his latest vid on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7q19f0&feature=related |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:42 PM Author: Bistre party of the first part locale 180, looks just like him
yoodood is a good dood btw |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:12 PM Author: House-broken bateful hominid resort next time just say pass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21253325) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:05 AM Author: Bearded racy pit what is a cold call? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981111) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:06 AM Author: silver hairy legs titcq, of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981124) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:07 AM Author: exhilarant iridescent house If you don't feel like answering, just pass and go back to to gchat. Some of your gunner faggot classmates will be shocked and disappointed, but that's about the only downside, unless your prof has some participation component to grading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981126) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 12:12 AM Author: startling business firm THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT COLD CUTS
do you find there to be a significant difference between boar's head and the generic shit? one that justifies the price difference? |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:22 PM Author: Low-t poppy home Does plastic taste different from actual meat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252504) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 10:15 AM Author: crawly histrionic generalized bond BH is 180 as fuck man. You had DAT JAMAICAN JERK? Too spicy for le tigre but it is awesome. You try and pass me DAT Dietz and Watson and I will slap your face. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256946) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:32 AM Author: cowardly puce tattoo base Not as stressful as trying to pay back student loans while unemployed. Enjoy the worst decision of your life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981799) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:33 AM Author: supple slate kitchen cuck IBR breh. 15% of 0 is 0. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981803) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:42 AM Author: french flatulent shrine bbw interest is not 0. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981857) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:44 AM Author: supple slate kitchen cuck doesn't matter. you don't have to pay that shit unless you get a jerb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981874) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:47 AM Author: cowardly puce tattoo base It's hard to afford the added interest with dat shitlaw salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981891) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:48 AM Author: supple slate kitchen cuck no IBR is capped at a percentage of your income. You pay the same if your loans are 100k or 1 billion dollars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981897) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Talented Den ENJOY the income tax bomb once your loan gets discharged! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252550) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:11 PM Author: coral ticket booth pocket flask Isn't the income tax only assessed on the principal amount that is paid off? Does the excess interest payoff really count as taxable income? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21253318) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:22 PM Author: Talented Den I am not a tax attorney, but I've never heard of a rule where only the discharged principal counts as income.
And common sense tells you that such a rule would be a computational clusterfuck. Suppose the principal is $100k and $70k interest has accrued. I make a $1000 IBR payment. Am I paying down the principal? The interest? Or am I paying down both pro rata? If pro rata, do I need to keep records each time I make a payment to figure out how much to deduct from the principal and how much to deduct from the accrued interest -- keeping in mind that each deduction from the principal or interest changes the pro rata proportion, as does each time interest is compounded.
The easier solution is not to distinguish between principal and interest -- debt discharge is debt discharge, and it's all income. |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 8:59 AM Author: fragrant out-of-control nowag persian he's flaming you. ibr specifically states that there is no tax liability on the ibr discharged debt. him and :D keep spouting off this nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256876) |
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Date: June 29th, 2012 1:37 AM Author: cyan stimulating box office antidepressant drug the worst thing that can happen is a little embarrassment (which will all be in your head because no one listens to you answers or cares or even remembers what you said by the time class is over) or *maybe* a minor hit to your participation grade. are you a fucking pussy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#20981831) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:24 PM Author: Mildly autistic seedy theatre Fucking terrifying dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250719) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:25 PM Author: Razzle wild parlor elastic band just say, "ultimately, we have to decide where to draw the line . . . " in a thoughtful tone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250736) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:31 PM Author: magical school needs more nasal. maybe spike your pen on the table as well...but not too hard...you're sitting in the front and it may graze the professor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250794) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:27 PM Author: bespoke idea he suggested Law school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250750) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:31 PM Author: Mind-boggling cocky state Question about IBR...
Say I have 200k in loans making 60-100k a year, and I cop dat IBR. Then in 10 years I start my own shitlaw firm or make partner at some moderately successfull shitlaw firm and am bringing in 200-300k a year and no longer qualify for IBR... Am I now completely fucked paying all the interest that my loans accrued while on IBR or is it still forgiven after 25 years?
For my current situation this is the most likely scenario... 65-100k for first 5-10 yrs, then 200k after that with more available... Should I be copping that IBR for the tiem being or will i be debt pwned after if I no longer qualify? If so is it worth possibly deferring income to remain just under the IBR threshold and then get a windfall of income when money is forgiven? |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:33 PM Author: Indecent famous landscape painting mad cow disease yes you are boned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21253498) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:31 PM Author: cheese-eating trailer park filthpig just start saying pass. you're paying their salaries so you should be calling the shots. why the hell should you have to pay to do the professor's work for them? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250800) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:40 PM Author: Odious Boiling Water Public Bath Participation grade breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250876) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:41 PM Author: cheese-eating trailer park filthpig if you're a bad student and you need that +/- bump then yeah, by all means go ahead and be some academic's bitch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250887) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:46 PM Author: Blathering aromatic juggernaut meetinghouse there are some profs that will dock half a grade for being unprepared. however, in any 1L class that did this (that i was in), they would let you know in advance that you were on call and would only dock you if you were completely unprepared (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252702) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:39 PM Author: vigorous piazza pozpig I never understood why people thought it was a big deal for a professor to ask them a question. You answer the question, it's right, wrong or somewhere in between, and life goes on. Wtf is the big deal?
Anyway, if you volunteer 1-2 times per class (when you know the answer or feel ok guessing) you will virtually never be cold called. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 2:47 PM Author: motley self-absorbed temple Bro, the thing is that if you're wrong, an asshole prof won't just say "no, that's not it." Instead, they'll continue to question you, exposing the stupidity of your wrong answer. I had a prof that was notorious for doing this to 1Ls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21250932) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 3:00 PM Author: Galvanic dilemma Nbd if you dont give a fuck bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21251040) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 3:12 PM Author: 180 Chartreuse Stage Thought you meant cold callinglaw firms to try and getting a jerb with your useless JD lol
Poor little scared 1Ls who will soon be arrogant 2Ls who still soon be apathetic 3Ls who will soon be worthless unemployed faggot pumos |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 3:15 PM Author: mentally impaired candlestick maker queen of the night PWND (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21251175) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 8:50 AM Author: Abusive Primrose Principal's Office Doctorate pumo self-hate makes me sad :((((((((( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256869) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 3:15 PM Author: Hairraiser garrison I have a razor sharp legal mind and was able to cut through every "challenging" question with laughable ease, so this was never an issue for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21251179) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 4:27 PM Author: Beady-eyed ratface death wish I don't see why cold calls would be stressful. Just make some shit up. When the prof realizes you don't have a clue he'll call on someone else. NBD.
Then again I went to bschool, not law school, and MBAs generally don't give a f*#k. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:07 PM Author: Orange national LOL, I literally had no idea what this was until like 5 posts in - though this was some faggotry about cold-calling to try to find jobs.
Shows how unmemorable it is. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:28 PM Author: wonderful overrated sanctuary keepsake machete lol at bitchmade boomers losing their fucking shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wOUMd3bMRI |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:33 PM Author: Talented Den Blind grading.
That is all. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:44 PM Author: magical school this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252675) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 5:47 PM Author: Blathering aromatic juggernaut meetinghouse in any class with no participation element to it, just say "im not prepared to answer this question" if you don't feel like talking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21252713) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:17 PM Author: coral ticket booth pocket flask Maybe one in five of my classes had some kind of cold calling (we didn't call it that) and it really tapered off by 3L. So I probably got called on about 20-30 times during law school. I was unprepared for more than half, and only one professor made me look like a damn fool.
It was her first class as a professor after a 15 year half-career as an Assistant U.S. Attorney. She made me her bitch in front of 50+ people. Didn't make any difference in the long run. |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 10:10 AM Author: Hairraiser garrison everyone still remembers it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256933) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:18 PM Author: bisexual hospital pistol Planet law school? wtf is wrong with you, get off this board (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21253375) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:37 PM Author: Indecent famous landscape painting mad cow disease profs are despicable shitheads who will use your fear of getting a minor grade decrease to bully you into memorizing every fact and procedural history in the case. their justification is, of course, that they had to do it too (and it wasn't this pussy cold calling you have nowadays) or that they are molding your mind or some dumb shit.
if you know you are being called on read the case a couple of times. if the prof doesn't tell you in advance, just try to bullshit as best you can. keep focused on the big picture and learn the law through the commercial outlines and supplements. they have so many people in the class that they won't call on you twice a semester, so at the most you look like a jackass for 10-15 minutes. |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 10:04 AM Author: 180 Chartreuse Stage You sound millenial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256922) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 3:14 AM Author: Curious set Just LOL at millennial dorks shitting their pants over the *possibility* of getting called on in class. It's pretty obvious that you spoiled fucks have never been remotely challenged by anyone or anything in your short, pathetic lives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1982248&forum_id=2#21256518) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 3:27 AM Author: Comical salmon nursing home not bad really
i'd rather a prof call on me than have a partner or client quiz me on random shit |