Yesterday I asked why a government couldn't legitimately kil...	iridescent titillating corner goal in life	05/12/13
signed by the founders of the government as a contract with ...	deep reading party azn	05/12/13
so you're arguing the constitution is an implied contract b/...	iridescent titillating corner goal in life	05/12/13
implied initially but upheld and expanded through common law...	deep reading party azn	05/12/13
best argument i've heard so far. but then of course, if it'...	iridescent titillating corner goal in life	05/12/13
you're born into the contract. i guess the argument is your ...	deep reading party azn	05/12/13
perhaps but this is of course the flaw in the government-as-...	iridescent titillating corner goal in life	05/12/13

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:09 PM Author: iridescent titillating corner goal in life Yesterday I asked why a government couldn't legitimately kill its own citizens. Many of you cited the 8th amendment as an independent restriction on government power. But why should we think a document is itself legitimate? What is legitimacy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185195)

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:15 PM Author: deep reading party azn signed by the founders of the government as a contract with the american people. more simplistically, think of it as a jeffersonian codification of locke's 2nd treatise on gov't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185239)

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:16 PM Author: iridescent titillating corner goal in life so you're arguing the constitution is an implied contract b/w the state and every american citizen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185246)

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:17 PM Author: deep reading party azn implied initially but upheld and expanded through common law and court judgments as precendial value for interpreting contract. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185257)

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:24 PM Author: iridescent titillating corner goal in life best argument i've heard so far. but then of course, if it's a contract why can't citizens opt out? You might argue they can -- but US citizens by birth don't have much say in the matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185308)

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:26 PM Author: deep reading party azn you're born into the contract. i guess the argument is your mom had gov't protection to gestate you safely and the docs/nurses delivered you without you dying and by the time you learn enough to opt out you owe the public school system, the fed gov't (roads), and local police for allowing the indulgence to study over engaging in child labor or being a child soldier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185324)

Date: May 12th, 2013 7:27 PM Author: iridescent titillating corner goal in life perhaps but this is of course the flaw in the government-as-contract argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2254201&forum_id=2#23185333)