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biglaw firms need to get their shit together re: en dashes and em dashes

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Crav...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.
Angry Electric Field
  03/19/18
it's despicable
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out befo...
Vivacious address
  03/19/18
lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, ...
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  03/19/18
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  08/04/25
Trendash for life. What the fuck?
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Ungodly abusive pistol macaca
  03/19/18
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Vigorous orange theater
  03/19/18
This literally does not exist in the English language. I hav...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers ...
Ungodly abusive pistol macaca
  03/19/18
I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a ...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
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crimson marketing idea
  03/19/18
Is this flame
cerebral obsidian plaza
  03/19/18
Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effo...
gaped razzle-dazzle tank queen of the night
  03/19/18
Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just ...
Zippy trailer park
  03/19/18
You know what is really fucking insane is when people point ...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
cr, huge patent prole tell
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  03/19/18
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  03/21/18
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diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping
  03/19/18
i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked ab...
Underhanded Electric Furnace
  03/22/18
Good job man. We’d be friends.
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  05/12/18
This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if t...
Fuchsia candlestick maker business firm
  05/12/18
Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases?...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  05/12/18
It flips them all so they curl away from the number.
Fuchsia candlestick maker business firm
  05/14/18
two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em b...
Tan national
  03/19/18
you can typically just use a voice command ime
Ungodly abusive pistol macaca
  03/19/18
Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced...
curious rusted box office
  03/19/18
Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use ...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS c...
cerebral obsidian plaza
  03/19/18
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Ungodly abusive pistol macaca
  03/19/18
Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.
Angry Electric Field
  03/19/18
The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a d...
narrow-minded trust fund home
  03/19/18
Amateur! Increase the font scale setting to increase the ...
Angry Electric Field
  03/19/18
This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausi...
razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty
  03/19/18
Very TTT. But who's going to check?
Angry Electric Field
  05/14/18
People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, f...
Tan national
  03/19/18
"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me...
diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping
  03/19/18
Damn you're fast
Tan national
  03/19/18
That took several hours per my notebook of billables.
diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping
  03/19/18
...
Tan national
  03/19/18
Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this ...
curious rusted box office
  03/19/18
Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but t...
narrow-minded trust fund home
  03/19/18
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Tan national
  03/19/18
nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck abou...
Tan national
  03/19/18
*BEEP BEEP BEEP*
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  03/19/18
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  03/20/18
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  03/20/18
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Bright fortuitous meteor
  03/20/18
I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and C...
Razzle spruce boiling water round eye
  03/20/18
This is — the credited criticism — so say I.
appetizing parlour mad-dog skullcap
  05/12/18
The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the pr...
Fuchsia candlestick maker business firm
  05/12/18
Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell...
Provocative Faggotry Philosopher-king
  05/14/18


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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

I see even the most elite firms (literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places) file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or, god forbid, two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641306)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Angry Electric Field

Two hyphens for em dashes isn't that bad. It's just ugly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641398)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

it's despicable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641410)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Vivacious address

Saw a guy get fired for this and straight up walked out before he jumped off the roof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641317)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: Ungodly abusive pistol macaca

lmfao that you're dealing with firms that aren't employing, at a minimum, the trendash. Point to fact, in times of great exigency, I've gone so far as to make use of a pentadash.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641319)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Offensive mother space



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: wonderful chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658763)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Ungodly abusive pistol macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050284)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: i gave my cousin head



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#49155425)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:04 PM
Author: insane glassy dilemma

Trendash for life. What the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641323)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Ungodly abusive pistol macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641327)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Vigorous orange theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641346)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

This literally does not exist in the English language. I have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641347)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: Ungodly abusive pistol macaca

(non-peer graduate; non-peer practitioner; non-peer farmers market goer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641352)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

I'm open to hearing an explanation. But I consider myself a punctuation hardliner and literally have no idea what you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641383)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping

Check out Eats, Shoots, and Trendashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641427)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Flushed mewling locale hominid



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: mint effete casino toilet seat



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Flesh Trip Lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641366)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Flushed mewling locale hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641386)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: crimson marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641406)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: cerebral obsidian plaza

Is this flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641326)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: gaped razzle-dazzle tank queen of the night

Square apostrophes are the worst. I mean, show a little effort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641333)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Zippy trailer park

Real pain in the ass in patent cases because you can’t just replace all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641407)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

You know what is really fucking insane is when people point the apostrophe the wrong way in patent cases. You see this all the time. Probably greater than 50% of the time, a biglaw firm will write about the 999 patent and have the apostrophe at the beginning pointing the wrong way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641435)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: orchid school multi-billionaire

cr, huge patent prole tell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641765)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35652523)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641869)



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Date: March 22nd, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Underhanded Electric Furnace

i correct every goddamn one. the founding fathers talked about patents in the goddamn constitution for fucks sake show a little respect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35658723)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

Good job man. We’d be friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038907)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Fuchsia candlestick maker business firm

This is a little known fact: the CAFC shreds your brief if they see a straight or backwards quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038931)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

Btw, why can’t you use the replace function in patent cases??? I’d like an explanation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038946)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: Fuchsia candlestick maker business firm

It flips them all so they curl away from the number.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Tan national

two hyphens all day, fuck trying to find the button for em bash all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641336)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Ungodly abusive pistol macaca

you can typically just use a voice command ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641345)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: curious rusted box office

Using hyphens instead of en dashes to save a line when faced with a page limit: decadent or shrewd?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

Honestly the one situation where I have been tempted to use a hyphen instead of an en dash (and, on occasion, have succumbed) is when faced with a strict word limit. If you use an en dash, Microsoft Word records the range as two words whereas it records a single word if you use a hyphen. But it is incorrect usage and I've always been tempted to call people out for violating the word count where they hit it exactly while employing 50 hyphens in the place of en dashes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: cerebral obsidian plaza

You could have avoided all this just by doing better in HS calculus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641379)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Ungodly abusive pistol macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Angry Electric Field

Most lawyers did just fine in HS math.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641414)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: narrow-minded trust fund home

The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641395)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Angry Electric Field

Amateur!

Increase the font scale setting to increase the hyphen to 300%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641430)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: razzmatazz umber keepsake machete kitty

This is conscious rules flouting and robs you of your plausible deniability. Many jurisdictions, for example Delaware, now require briefs to be filed in Word format.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641456)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Angry Electric Field

Very TTT.

But who's going to check?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050314)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Tan national

People who care about this are what make biglaw miserable, fyi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641582)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping

"bake?" oh shit, I just proved your point. Bake me away, toys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641586)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Tan national

Damn you're fast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641601)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: diverse hilarious crackhouse gaping

That took several hours per my notebook of billables.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Tan national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641859)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: curious rusted box office

Brother, clients pay $620 an hour for us to care about this so we can maintain credibility and prestige with judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: narrow-minded trust fund home

Judge: Well, I was going to rule in defendant's favor, but then I noticed inconsistent em-dashes. Summary judgment for the plaintiff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641758)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Tan national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641861)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Tan national

nobody whose time has any value gives one solitary fuck about this. its all dipshit mid level associates one upping each other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641868)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: exhilarant burgundy property son of senegal

*BEEP BEEP BEEP*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35641759)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: twinkling ceo

killself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645224)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Cobalt Genital Piercing People Who Are Hurt

alt 0151

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645233)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Bright fortuitous meteor

transhyphenist non bigot here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645255)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Razzle spruce boiling water round eye

I see even the most elite firms -- literally Wachtell and Cravath and Kellog and other top places -- file briefs using hyphens instead of en dashes and using en dashes or -- god forbid -- two hyphens for em dashes. get it together motherfuckers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#35645274)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: appetizing parlour mad-dog skullcap

This is — the credited criticism — so say I.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36038917)



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Date: May 12th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Fuchsia candlestick maker business firm

The SGs office is the last bastion of good writing in the profession. Their punctuation is always on point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36039460)



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Date: May 14th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Provocative Faggotry Philosopher-king

Worrying about this is the ultimate no book of business tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923252&forum_id=2#36050530)