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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:30 PM Author: clear indian lodge
Last October I got a 161. I took Testmasters, studied hard, and was rewarded with a 158 this October. That gives me the great average of 159.5.
I went to a top private university and majored in economics. (In other words, nothing special about me.)
What schools should I shoot for? I'd like to get into a top 20 school. If I can't do that, I'd like to practice in the upper midwest (perhaps Chicago or Minneapolis) or on the west coast.
Yes, I know I'm a TTT. Yes, I know I'm retarded. Yes, I know I'm not prestigious. Yes, I know I'm a failure. Yes, I know baby Jesus is laughing at me.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1533967) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:34 PM Author: Painfully Honest Jet Locus Death Wish
GULC PT, Boalt + 15-25s that you like and a bunch of lower Tier 1s and some Tier 2s that you like.
Best of luck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1533998) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:46 PM Author: Painfully Honest Jet Locus Death Wish
I'd guess around 15-20% but I don't really know. PT admissions are somewhat random.
I got in with 3.7/164/Masters degree
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534078) |
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Date: January 27th, 2005 4:34 PM Author: adventurous yapping trailer park pervert Subject: An Idea
If you bust your chops to get an internship with a Senator/Congressman in DC and make some connections there, it is very possible that you could get a full-time staff position. Once aquired, getting into GULC PT may not be that difficult.
To get into GULC with the low LSAT (which will be rounded up to a 160 I think), you will really have to sell them on your future in politics or something else that you can only do in DC.
Good luck bro.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2013359) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:37 PM Author: clear indian lodge
What sort of shot do you think I have at Minnesota? I think that just magically become my new dream school.
What about Iowa? Is that good for the upper midwest?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534025) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:41 PM Author: clear indian lodge
You think there's anything I can do between to improve my chances?
I'll hop on a plane and visit campus to show them I'm serious if I have to.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534047) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:52 PM Author: clear indian lodge
I went to school in Chicago. Does that count for anything?
<<<and maybe something unique about you that MN probably doesn't get very much of.>>>
Do they get many people from the Big Square States?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534108) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:35 PM Author: Disrespectful box office love of her life
A top 20 school seems highly unlikely unless there is something very special about you (i.e. you're native American, there is a building on campus named after your family, you won a Nobel prize). If you're in-state, you might have a shot at a top school that makes it easier for in-state people to get in- maybe Iowa, MN or UIUC. If you really like Chicago, Kent and Loyola are both well-respected and you will get a good job from either of these schools. Also, if you like Wisconsin, if you go to school in Wisconsin (UW or Marquette) you don't have to take the Wisconsin bar exam. Indiana U- Bloomington might be a good choice, or Ohio State. But if you really like Chicago, you should consider Loyola or Kent.
edit- you should apply to the midwestern top publics even if you're not in state, and I don't know if it actually is easier if you are in state, you'd need to research that.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534003) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:39 PM Author: clear indian lodge
I'm a middle class white dude. What's thay buy me these days?
I'm not in-state at any of those schools.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534040)
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:51 PM Author: clear indian lodge
I plan on submitting my application by next Friday.
I'll get working on that visit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534103) |
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Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:38 PM Author: clear indian lodge
Small consolation, but thanks for the tip.
That makes a big difference according to Chiasu's calculator.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534030) |
Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:35 PM Author: clear indian lodge
Now I am thinking of applying to these schools:
GULC PT
Iowa
UC-Davis
Minnesota
Hastings
Loyola-Chicago
USD
Chicago-Kent
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534009)
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Date: October 23rd, 2004 1:28 PM Author: Disrespectful box office love of her life
I'd add Wisconsin, Marquette and maybe IU. Maybe DePaul as a safety. The bonus to Wisconsin and Marquette is that you don't need to take the bar exam to be admitted to the WI bar, so you can take the bar exam for another state and then you're admitted in 2 states and have extra marketability. If you like CA, maybe Santa Clara or Pepperdine would be good safeties.
ND might be worth a shot. I know a white girl with a 161 and a significantly lower GPA.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1536292) |
Date: October 22nd, 2004 9:43 PM Author: clear indian lodge
Minnesota has early decision. Would it help me much to apply ED there?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1534055)
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Date: October 23rd, 2004 2:16 AM Author: grizzly fighting persian
The most important thing is probably to decide where you want to be geographically speaking.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1535273) |
Date: October 23rd, 2004 10:15 AM Author: contagious bat shit crazy therapy cruise ship
You have an outside chance at Boalt, so definitely apply there. I know several non-URMs there who have numbers like yours, so write a really fucking good personal statement, white boy!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1535940) |
Date: October 23rd, 2004 11:06 AM Author: Effete razzmatazz plaza preventive strike
I had very similar #s last year.
Best School I got into was UMinnesota. I got nixed at Texas. I got into a bunch in the 20-40 range but got WL at ND, WashU and Vandy. Hope that helps.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1536002) |
Date: November 5th, 2004 8:36 PM Author: clear indian lodge
Let's say I want to practice in Chicago, what schools should I shoot for?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1606886) |
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Date: November 5th, 2004 10:34 PM Author: Arousing incel
Loyola-Chicago, and maybe ND.
BTW: I had very similar numbers last year, got into NU, Gtown (p/t), UCLA, USC and ND. Non-URM. I'm convinced it was a mix of my personal statement and geographic diversity (coming from NYC) that got me into some of those schools. You def. have a shot if you can market yourself well.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1607476) |
Date: November 6th, 2004 12:55 AM Author: Navy Stirring School
How fucked? Abner Louima got off lucky compared to what LSAC will do to you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1608069) |
Date: November 6th, 2004 5:43 PM Author: nighttime idea he suggested electric furnace Subject: What about me?
I decided to apply to a shitload of places and say my prayers--luckily, I would be happy going to OSU or UC if it came down to it. But I applied... 3.92 English/Music Indiana University, 3 year grad, 160 LSAT...it happens, played rock/jazz shows regionally on the weekends, started a volunteer piano teaching program, scored a few below my average, just want to know if anyone else has experience applying with these numbers. I made statements pertaining to why I wanted to go to GW, Minnesota, and Emory, any chances kids? It's rough being a white boy. And, if things don't work out in a way that I'm happy, I can year off and hope that I can study more--though believe me, I studied a lot. Thanks
GW
George Mason
Emory
Colorado
University of Cincinnati
Ohio State
Wash U
Fordham
Cardozo
Maryland
Case Western
Minnesota
UNC
American
Boston U
Boston C.
Any chance I'll sneak in a top 30?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1610175) |
Date: December 20th, 2004 4:19 AM Author: Vigorous ruddy brunch goyim Subject: To the OP
I think Wisc has rolling admissions so the earlier you submit, the better your chances.
Other suggestions: Vandy, Emory, Northwestern, Case, Washington U.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1818315) |
Date: December 20th, 2004 4:55 AM Author: Glittery karate regret
at 10 points above the median score, "failure" doesnt seem to apply.
you would definitely get into wisconsin. your GPA is absurdly high for there, and your LSAT is right on average. it's more like 30 ranked, but it's upper midwest, and a nice town (i go there now for undergrad).
i wish you could give me your gpa in exchange for a few lsatg points, haha. 3.9 at a top school, wow, that's good.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1818355) |
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Date: January 11th, 2005 12:52 AM Author: clear indian lodge
I applied to UIUC. I didn't apply to Iowa because their salary info scared the shit out of me.
You think it's worth a shot?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1909057) |
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Date: January 11th, 2005 11:44 AM Author: Aphrodisiac set
A question about re-taking the LSAT--did you take a prep test before your first test date? What do you think made your score go down the second time? Was it just a harder test?
I ask because I got a 158 on the December test...I'm considering retaking but I don't know what to do. Most of my practice test scores were in the 150s range, so a 158 is actually pretty good for me personally, but I did get a 162 on one of my practice tests, and I really want a higher score.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1910100) |
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Date: January 12th, 2005 2:33 AM Author: clear indian lodge
I don't know what made my score go down. I didn't prep before the first one, and I was pulling pretty regular upper-160s and lower-170s in practice tests. The gods of the LSAT just bent me over and let me have it, I suppose.
I thought the more recent test was easier.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1915540) |
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Date: January 12th, 2005 4:40 PM Author: Aphrodisiac set
which two test administrations did you take?
(I took December '04)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1918115) |
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Date: January 13th, 2005 1:59 AM Author: Disrespectful box office love of her life
Iowa and Wisc both give you a good chance in both Chicago and Minnesota. You should definitely apply to both. If you get into Iowa, then worry about their salary info and decide if you want to go to a lower-ranked school instead.
You did apply to Loyola and Kent, right? B/c you should.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1922001) |
Date: January 13th, 2005 1:53 AM Author: honey-headed factory reset button foreskin
you're not getting into a top 20. maybe not getting into a T1. i'd say you have mediocre to pretty good chances at a lot of state schools in the midwest though.
your best hope in the top 20 range are the UC's, but they're not in the midwest.
try Minn, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, and some T2's and T3's where you want to practice. you'll probably pull one of the midwest schools, though maybe not Minn or Iowa.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1921959) |
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Date: January 13th, 2005 2:07 AM Author: clear indian lodge
I applied to Minnesota and Illinois back in early November. Maybe I'll toss an app or two into the rest of your pile of suggestions.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1922064)
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Date: January 13th, 2005 2:18 AM Author: honey-headed factory reset button foreskin
you'll probably pull at least one of them. most of them are pretty good if you want to practice in the midwest.
btw, in WI you don't have to take the bar. nice plus, eh?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1922125) |
Date: January 13th, 2005 2:09 AM Author: clear indian lodge
Here's my current list of schools to which I have applied:
Kent
Loyola
Minnesota
Hastings
GULC PT
Illinois
WUSTL
Berkeley
Washington and Lee
Boston College
Boston University
SMU
ASU
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1922079)
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Date: January 13th, 2005 2:45 AM Author: honey-headed factory reset button foreskin
i was just saying that becuase they're the most GPA heavy school i can think of. you already applied to Cal and Hastings though so i'd say you have california covered decently enough.
is it worth $70? your prerogative. i don't think you have an awesome shot there, but if you really want to go to a top 20ish school you'd have to cast a wide net even though you can probably pull a very strong midwest T1. you'd probably be best off in the best school where you want to practice, Minnesota or another strong school in the region.
if it's a choice i'd spend the money on the rest of the T1 state schools in the midwest.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#1922251) |
Date: January 28th, 2005 4:52 PM Author: saffron abode sneaky criminal Subject: same here
Bigtard, I feel your pain. I took the 10/03 and 10/04 LSATs.
10/03 --> 160
took Testmasters
10/04 --> 158
Good luck on your apps. We've got a lot of the same schools.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2020204)
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Date: January 28th, 2005 5:02 PM Author: Violet church
You might want to go ahead and send in an app to GW PT. There's a few people in my section with similar scores to yours. I think you have a good shot. And don't worry too much about applying late. I didn't send in my app to GW until March 1st last year.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2020242) |
Date: February 2nd, 2005 3:47 PM Author: very tactful shivering bawdyhouse
My two cents...i think you've got a great shot anywhere outside the top14...and an outside chance at the top 14. Serious. Maybe i'm just the eternal optimist of the board...
I have a low GPA and a fairly high (maybe not compared to this message board...but compared to the rest of the country) LSAT score. Most schools I had applied to I had below their 25 percentile GPA and right about at their 75% LSAT. I didn't get in everywhere...but i wasn't an auto-ding anywhere. I haven't been rejected anywhere yet, either...but i've been deferred and put on hold at WashU, Minnesota, and I have yet to hear back from Emory. I am going to Iowa next year though...which is a top 20-25 school (depends on the year and which rankings you look at). Plus, Iowa gave me tons of money...which means I probably wasn't even borderline...
IMHO, you'd probably got a great shot at Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, UIUC. Less so at the other top-tier schools at BU (i've been told they are an LSAT whore), BC, etc. But, let them reject you...don't reject yourself by not applying!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2049105) |
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Date: February 8th, 2005 12:19 AM Author: clear indian lodge
The difference between us is that you have a high LSAT and a low GPA, and I have a high GPA and a low LSAT. The LSAT is weighted more than GPA.
I was deferred at Minnesota and WUSTL, which is probably their way of rejecting me. So far, I have been accepted to Loyola University of Chicago, Chicago-Kent (+$10k/year), and Arizona State.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2085687) |
Date: May 14th, 2005 8:02 PM Author: clear indian lodge
The results are in --
In: Arizona State, IIT($$), Loyola-Chicago($$), Hastings
Out: USC, Boston College, Boston University, Berkeley, Illinois.
Waitlisted: Minnesota, Georgetown PT, SMU, Arizona, Washington and Lee, WUSTL.
Biggest surprise: SMU. Chiasu's calculator gave me an 80+% change of getting in.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2784520) |
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Date: May 14th, 2005 11:08 PM Author: Cracking Degenerate
161 and you are mocking his 158&161?
What a douche.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2786047) |
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Date: May 15th, 2005 12:08 AM Author: Azure coldplay fan nursing home
"Yes, I know I'm a TTT. Yes, I know I'm retarded. Yes, I know I'm not prestigious. Yes, I know I'm a failure. Yes, I know baby Jesus is laughing at me."
This is obviously tongue-in-cheek in the context of XOXOHTH. And no, he didn't come across as a clueless prestige-whore-- being clueless would have meant saying, "I only want to go to T14."
"I feel that if people apply to a reach school they should do so because they absolutley love the school and feel they belong there."
Where did he say that he didn't love Boalt etc.? He said that he preferred the Midwest. Yeah, well, so do I. I love the Midwest yet I would go to other schools for substantive, unrelated, reasons.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#2786670) |
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Date: June 28th, 2005 4:03 PM Author: clear indian lodge
I think you misread my first post. That was a preemptive strike against this board's predictable comments.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#3134492) |
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Date: June 28th, 2005 4:55 PM Author: Marvelous Center
To OP: most likely not getting into Minn - as posted on this site last week, estimated 25th/75th LSATs for incoming 1Ls are 163/167. Not female, not URM - not such a great chance. If you want to work in Minneapolis, Wisc or Iowa would be your best bet. Minneapolis firms are - in general - somewhat snobbish about hiring grads from schools not in the area. A friend of mine has a buddy who went to Yale, did well, came back to Msp, and was unemployed for 9 mos. I heard this throughout the second semester as I looked at firms for next fall, as well.
There are 3 others LS in the Cities - but all are T4 and you would have a really tough time if you ever wanted to work outside of MN.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=97906&forum_id=2#3134887) |
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