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Civilization 7 so bad Firaxis is already looking for a Head of Product for Civ

https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/firaxis/jobs/6652811003
Impertinent outnumbered trailer park
  08/27/25
that studio is Finished unless they completely clean house ...
exhilarant opaque kitchen
  08/27/25
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Sapphire Codepig Stage
  08/27/25
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bespoke contagious den hominid
  08/27/25
they could have printed money forever releasing reskinned ci...
Abnormal slimy piazza
  08/27/25
longtime civ player-- have not bought 7 yet based on the rev...
Amber glittery set masturbator
  08/27/25
Why don't you make your own video game using AI? Incorporate...
orange disturbing stage pozpig
  08/27/25
same. i have put thousands of hours into civs and seeing the...
Abnormal slimy piazza
  08/27/25
any theories on why companies like to dramatically reinvent ...
Impertinent outnumbered trailer park
  08/27/25
it's just retarded managers trying to make their "mark&...
cerebral wrinkle
  08/27/25
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Bearded dingle berry locale
  08/27/25
well you can't just create the exact same game. no one would...
Abnormal slimy piazza
  08/27/25
These games were always ass. When I played Civ 2 I "won...
orange disturbing stage pozpig
  08/27/25
Why don't you make your own video game using AI? Incorporate...
Amber glittery set masturbator
  08/27/25
There are already lots of 180 games out there. I just played...
orange disturbing stage pozpig
  08/27/25
“growth” mandate leading to cancer incentives (...
Magenta frum business firm
  08/27/25
this guy businesses
cerebral wrinkle
  08/27/25
how is this a question being asked right now? we literally j...
exhilarant opaque kitchen
  08/27/25
tbf OP is literally about a consequence for one of said peop...
cerebral wrinkle
  08/27/25
that person will be promptly hired at some other random comp...
exhilarant opaque kitchen
  08/27/25
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Razzmatazz green resort
  08/27/25
Didn't the last 2-3 Civ games suck too? I've never heard goo...
orange disturbing stage pozpig
  08/27/25
civ 5 was actually a Triumph. but 6 and 7 are total write of...
exhilarant opaque kitchen
  08/27/25
6 is pretty fun now
Impertinent outnumbered trailer park
  08/27/25


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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Impertinent outnumbered trailer park

https://job-boards.greenhouse.io/firaxis/jobs/6652811003



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216133)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: exhilarant opaque kitchen

that studio is Finished unless they completely clean house

they're like an even more skinsuited zombie version of blizzard. critically infested by shitlibs who are incinerating hundreds of millions of dollars while coasting on established IP created by white guys 20+ years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216143)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Sapphire Codepig Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216345)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: bespoke contagious den hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216869)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: Abnormal slimy piazza

they could have printed money forever releasing reskinned civ 4/5 with various new gimmicks but instead they tried to reinvent the wheel.

why do companies do this? look at expedition 33 amoging final fantasy. people liked the format! you can always make new franchises instead of reinventing existing ones!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216151)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: Amber glittery set masturbator

longtime civ player-- have not bought 7 yet based on the reviews. Innovation and improvement is always welcome but you can tell they were trying to build their base by appealing to people who DON'T LIKE PLAYING GAMES LIKE CIV. Now you lost you r loyal customers and didn't really pick up any new players.

It's like the Cracker Barrell story-- you have a solid customer base, don't get lazy and improve where you have to but otherwise stay the course and let the steady stream of revenue continue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216200)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: orange disturbing stage pozpig

Why don't you make your own video game using AI? Incorporate all the features you loved in old Civ games and sell it for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216223)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: Abnormal slimy piazza

same. i have put thousands of hours into civs and seeing the announcement and subsequent reviews I wasn't even tempted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216335)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:57 AM
Author: Impertinent outnumbered trailer park

any theories on why companies like to dramatically reinvent shit? do you think part of it is about the creators getting bored? so it's not really a business based decision?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216261)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:18 AM
Author: cerebral wrinkle

it's just retarded managers trying to make their "mark" so you get Vomit by Committee instead of Visionary Curation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216343)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:24 PM
Author: Bearded dingle berry locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217563)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:20 AM
Author: Abnormal slimy piazza

well you can't just create the exact same game. no one would buy NES super mario bros over and over. nor would someone keep buying civ 1 with better graphics.

you have to have some innovation while keeping the core experience in line with the franchise. i think this can lead to BIG CHANGES from ambitous but well-intentioned designers. 3D mario on the m64 was a big departure and now those marios outsell 2D marios.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216350)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:09 PM
Author: orange disturbing stage pozpig

These games were always ass. When I played Civ 2 I "won" on deity level by pop rushing and cranking out melee units in 300BC. I barely played any of the later entries because the computer would just start cheating past about 0AD, same as always. Turn up the difficulty and the computer just cheats harder. I keep waiting for someone to make a game in this genre that's actually good and would never even think to play another Civ game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216847)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:11 PM
Author: Amber glittery set masturbator

Why don't you make your own video game using AI? Incorporate all the features you would like to see and sell it for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216853)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 5:42 PM
Author: orange disturbing stage pozpig

There are already lots of 180 games out there. I just played Doom 2016 for the first time a few weeks ago and it's 180. I don't understand people who play shitty games but apparently they exist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217419)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: Magenta frum business firm

“growth” mandate leading to cancer

incentives (socially acceptable, not getting permabanned by payment processors or whatever, etc) + most easily/lazily identifiable path to growth for untalented middle management typically leads to degradation or complete loss of features desirable to original consumer. as rough edges are sanded down, original consumer drops out of target market, while new markets predictably fail to develop

but theres an inescapable gravitational pull of an example like marvelslop where comicbook nerdery was successfully mass marketed and converted to probably 1000x original IP value, and that may be an absurdly conservative estimate, so the GC incentive is to churn that slop and pray one out of a hundred hits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216896)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: cerebral wrinkle

this guy businesses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217018)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: exhilarant opaque kitchen

how is this a question being asked right now? we literally just had the cracker barrel fiasco happen. it just played out before our eyes

these people do this stuff because they're incompetent hacks who don't give a shit about the companies that they "run," and because they face zero consequences for their failures. the goofy DEI shitlibs and females currently "in charge" of Firaxis will go off and be hired elsewhere by other shitlibs and females at some other company

there are never any consequences for the people who make these decisions. always the same story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49216906)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 3:03 PM
Author: cerebral wrinkle

tbf OP is literally about a consequence for one of said people. at the end of the day if shit bleeds money they will be kicked out. these people thrive and metastasize when the money printer is on but are the first to get the boot when it dries up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217023)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: exhilarant opaque kitchen

that person will be promptly hired at some other random company for $400,000k/year and do the exact same thing again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217030)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 6:51 PM
Author: Razzmatazz green resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217510)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: orange disturbing stage pozpig

Didn't the last 2-3 Civ games suck too? I've never heard good things about the series since Civ II.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217776)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: exhilarant opaque kitchen

civ 5 was actually a Triumph. but 6 and 7 are total write offs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49217952)



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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:36 PM
Author: Impertinent outnumbered trailer park

6 is pretty fun now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5766691&forum_id=2Elisa#49218008)