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Why is Trump paying everyone's SNAP benefits during the shutdown? Cons?
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Date: October 30th, 2025 7:38 AM Author: Navy Heaven Are you THAT poor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387218) |
Date: October 30th, 2025 7:39 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy doesn't matter to me homie i don't eat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387222) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 7:41 AM Author: Navy Heaven Every Trumpmo claims they're not on food stamps, but Trump is busting his ass to make sure food stamps get issued. It doesn't add up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387224) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 7:45 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy They probably don't want another PR disaster atm Stuff like EBT is pretty non-partisan and while it could use some scrutiny for abuse cases the majority of them are probably legitimate and provide aid (that also counts as corporate welfare) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 7:54 AM Author: Navy Heaven Wow it sure sounds like Trumpmos love welfare now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387234) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 7:59 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy I was never against it personally and if you look at the models fairly it generally makes sense to run certain programs. I don't know where all the technocrats on the right went but they're not in the WH atm that's for certain Cons are right to gripe about incidences of abuse but as a whole it's not a drag on the general economy although things could be said about "skew" in prices and product preference leading to more long term issues (that investors don't care about, as they're more often than not only considering "trend") I've never stepped foot in a welfare office myself but isn't it kind of hard to get anyway? I'm surprised the numbers are as high as they are |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:09 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy Can you stop fucking scamming (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387252) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:11 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness "Stuff like EBT is pretty non-partisan"
Lmao |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:12 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy It is. I don't count MSM as part of the discourse. Talk to average middle class cons. The median opinion is "it's fine as long as it's legitimate and goes to Americans" and outside of a brief period in the neocon bush era this is how I always remember it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387258) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:18 AM Author: Aromatic transparent organic girlfriend rigpig cr.
this is the problem with hyper partisan political discourse. most GOP voters arent the "if the government does anything it's socialism" type and want some form of safety net. just like most dems aren't blue haired commies who want endless gibes. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:35 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness The foundation of modern American conservatism is that Great Society was the worst thing to happen to America. Republican politicians are at best allowed to say "the voters like it SO..."
The but the real fact is "middle class cons" are irrelevant in the future of the party. Poasters are unironically the new ruling class and just look anywhere on the Internet to see their real feelings about DEM PROGRAMZ |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:38 AM Author: Aromatic transparent organic girlfriend rigpig this is an mpc take.
go outside and talk to people rather than thinking internet hot takes represent anything |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:49 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness The idea that most Republicans *support* welfare is laughable. At best most tolerate it as a "necessary evil" but wouldn't cry if it disappeared. If one faction doesn't care, and another faction hates it, who is more influential? Same thing with libs and borders.
You're just a sensible moderate in denial that Trumpmos spent the last 10 years intentionally exterminating/converting Romneyites and the like. It would be like a liberal saying most libs "aren't really like redditors." It doesn't matter because they're the ones you voted for and who controls the discourse. Stephen Miller types are heroes to most modern cons, not an extreme guy |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Aromatic transparent organic girlfriend rigpig the reason why trump ousted romney and co is because of his populist rhetoric that was appealing to the working class. meanwhile the democrats are now the party of corporitists.
yes, you're right that the gop only begrudgingly tolerate things like SNAP. because the gop is about helping people by creating *THE CONDITIONS* for them to secure their welfare. so while the dems want to wave in illegals and use gibes to keep poors on basic sustenance to prevent riots while the corporatists profit, we want to create the conditions where the working class can thrive without gibes.
you're right that some put the cart before the horse. but you're mistaking the reasons why we hate subsidies.
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:14 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness You're really just inventing a perfect narrative to justify voting instead of accepting the realpolitik that actually drives the country. There is no overarching conservative philosophy beyond opposition to liberals. That's it. I did not hear speeches about the great conservative vision growing up--just about how Clinton is a buckwild spender and liberal. The entire movement is based around this singular idea and it is what holds the tent together. The same is true of current day libs but really only since the Trump era, which is why the current party is so listless. Nobody genuinely believes in anything beyond "orange man bad", but you can't have *both* parties whose real reason for being is opposition to the other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387363) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:16 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy Wildly incorrect and you are completely ignoring the political shifts on the right of the last decade or so Trump voters are not all racist hicks and creepy tech billionaires. That movement had the best and the worst of right wing ideologues and genuinely brought about a shift in the way conservatives look at a variety of issues All of that "grand conservative vision" stuff, despite often being more eloquent and quickening of the blood than their leftist and centrist counterparts, came from the paleocon camp---and many of the thinkers in that camp have been driven to the wayside over concerns that sneering leftists have decried as "parochial" or "too backwards to engage with". The real thought leaders on the right all get memory holed or sent into the sticks of history due to facets of the system that Trump was elected to shift |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:19 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness And who exactly are these thoughtful new Trumpmo moderates? Who is a prominent voice of this type of faction? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387384) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:20 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy You know that I don't approve of what's going on atm "Brilyn Hollyhand" ljl and the "Young Guns" part 2 |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:24 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness I don't care about random sensible people because random people don't dictate discourse and rally the cause. Popular taking heads (whether they're politicians or just talking heads in the media, the latter of which is increasingly driven by online instead of old grey ladies bte) do. If you have no figureheads your faction is irrelevant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387403) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:35 AM Author: Aromatic transparent organic girlfriend rigpig what about you and all the other Libs just like you thay held their nose and voted for Harris?
just because the leaders and talking heads are batshit doesn't mean the people voting for them are. that just means that the electorate isn't represented well. instead of waiting for someone else to take the reins you could work to get people like you represented better. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:48 AM Author: Chocolate big space messiness We *are* irrelevant, that's my point. If we weren't we would have some noticable level of influence on direction of the party and disource, but in reality AOC/Mamdani types are who controls the party. Reptiles were right about "Tumblr libs" in the 2010s despite people like me insisting it was just a bunch of nonsense and libs are right about "dogwhistles" today. Whether you like it or not JD Vance and Stephen Miller types control the party and they do not represent a basket of sensible moderates, they were forged in the bowels of the "Dark Enlightment" and Yarvin and shit sensible moderates used to make fun of. And the same is true to an even higher degree of popular conservative figures in media (Carlson, Fuentes, etc) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387454) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 10:07 AM Author: Aromatic transparent organic girlfriend rigpig i like vance! he's a thoughtful moderate and 180 poaster!
anyway i guess we were talking past eachother about what each side believes: i was talking about the electorate and you were talking anout public rhetoric. however i dont think most of those people “believe” much, they will adjust their positions to capture votes or be voted out.
things are kooky now but history is full of kooky periods. maybe cooler heads will prevail. or maybe they won't. i was just saying that not everyone who votes gop is a “fuck the poor end all assistance” reptile.
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:22 AM Author: Aromatic transparent organic girlfriend rigpig im active irl in conservative politics so my opinion is based on a broader perspective than x and xoxo. you're right that the rhetoric online and on tv is shit on both sides Aand that's sad. but actual people do believe in things, they just don't waste their time online with retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387397) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:53 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy Trump 1 blasted Reaganites and I stand by that completely FDR's great society (close to a von Bismarck "relook" at the fallout of Industrialism and asking difficult questions in a non-partisan fashion about how to remedy the "warp" caused by model changes) was mostly cr and still largely supported today even if there were individual misteps within the process. LBJ's partisan chessboard population cudgel shit + naked vote buying was ass cancer for the country and we're still suffering bigly from what that Christadelphian huckster did to America in the WH bathroom urinal |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 9:58 AM Author: floppy gas station Trump tells them what to think. It’s so pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387481) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:13 AM Author: cracking chrome church building blood rage Sony relies on SNAP and EBT to be distributed to its customers like cowshit in order to fund Fortnite micro transactions and Western games about transsexual space cadets, Trump is just doing his best to maintain balance in the Global Economy afaik (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387259) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:22 AM Author: Charcoal provocative genital piercing church The only poasters who can speak from personal experience on SNAP are doodikoff, nyuug, benzo, and probably Luis. Their preferred Consoles are Xbox, Pentium IV PC, 32X, and PS3 respectively. Luis cannot afford a contemporary console because of VHCOL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5791591&forum_id=2Elisa#49387273) |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:23 AM Author: Charcoal provocative genital piercing church btw — champ — SNAP pays for food. not microtransactions. you idiot.
here's another one. when I call you champ, I'm being sarcastic. Yeah, that's right. You've been a joke all this time. |
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Date: October 30th, 2025 8:33 AM Author: Umber maniacal theater stage therapy Obama era regs allow you to purchase Fortnite skins with EBT so long as they're food themed as part of some Princeton funded Liberal Arts Awareness civic drive You can get any of the season 6 ep4 skins (https://fortnite.gg/most-used-skins?list=food) with your average SNAP allotment |
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