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Jews,Itals,& other low-trust South/East Euros do as much economic damage as nigs
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Date: December 29th, 2017 12:37 PM Author: Aqua offensive philosopher-king locale case in point: a subway system at the mercy of contractors/unions/lawyers run by mobbed-up dagos and beady-eyed parasitic kikes trying to game the system wastes billions of dollars a year in just ONE city:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/nyregion/new-york-subway-construction-costs.html
nigs steal one $200 TV set at a time. jews embezzle $200k at a time. |
Date: December 29th, 2017 12:45 PM Author: Chestnut talented dragon Cr it's fucking insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034661) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 12:53 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich this sounds awesome and ljl @ anyone getting pissed that the guys digging tunnels make a bit too much or aren't worked to death. big corporations are full of useless employees making far more.
isn't paying guys a good wage, letting them have a decent quality of life something to be proud of? this is America. why do we have to be as bad as France or Hong Kong?
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The labor deals negotiated between the unions and construction companies also ensure that workers are well paid. The agreement for Local 147, the union for the famed “sandhogs” who dig the tunnels, includes a pay rate for most members of $111 per hour in salary and benefits. The pay doubles for overtime or Sunday work, which is common in transit construction. Weekend overtime pays quadruple — more than $400 per hour. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 12:57 PM Author: Chestnut talented dragon This is beyond a good wage and decent quality of life, Shlomo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034757) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 12:59 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich dude I get MAF at serious fraud but paying some hard working guys enough to maybe, maybe buy a house one day is low on the list of things to get riled about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034768) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:03 PM Author: Aqua offensive philosopher-king locale you are retarded. the NYC subway system is crumbling despite being practically the best-funded subway system in the world. like, in London or Paris or Stockholm the amount of money they budgeted for the first phase of the Second Ave Subway would've built out the entire line. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034787) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:05 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich (guy not one of the 25 dudes riding the tunnel boring machine with their feet up reading the new york post and drinking coffee) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034807) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: naked grizzly lay new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035324) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 3:24 PM Author: Contagious Metal Really Tough Guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036060) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:02 PM Author: Aqua offensive philosopher-king locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034781) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 12:49 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich Sounds like the Brooklyn artisan hipster trend has even reached the MTA union:
There are “nippers” to watch material being moved around and “hog house tenders” to supervise the break room. Each crane must have an “oiler,” a relic of a time when they needed frequent lubrication. Standby electricians and plumbers are to be on hand at all times, as is at least one “master mechanic.” Generators and elevators must have their own operators, even though they are automatic. An extra person is required to be present for all concrete pumping, steam fitting, sheet metal work and other tasks.
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:06 PM Author: boyish soggy business firm Ho lee shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034814) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 4:55 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich reads like an evan39 article (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036666) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 12:58 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich "The critics pointed to several unusual provisions in the labor agreements. One part of Local 147’s deal entitles the union to $450,000 for each tunnel-boring machine used. That is to make up for job losses from “technological advancement,” even though equipment has been standard for decades."
faggot lawyers: expected to bill harder after lexis, word processing, blackberries, etc. come on the scene
chill union bros: Junior and Senior Horse Whipper and Horse Operations Supervisor each getting a "technological advancement" stipend whenever the crew rides in a van |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: Ultramarine Razzle-dazzle Liquid Oxygen yah but metros and subways dont cost as much even in their homelands like spain, italy (which are incredibly corrupt in other ways) so it has nothing to do with race. its a purely a byproduct of our POLITICAL system where politicians appease major voting blocs (mexicans on amnesty, unions on govt contracts, public transport) to keep winning elections and for campaign contributions.
All this shit happens only in CORRUPT societies and our society is incredible corrupt at the top level. only difference between US and mexico/india is that it has not percolated down to the lowest levels (parking enforcement, cops, DMV etc). YET
Want to fix NYC subway? Let it be professionally run with govt only paying subsidies for low income people. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:17 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich incentives aren't aligned. cost + % profit contracts actually align incentives in the opposite direction. contracting firms make more money the more they waste. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034936) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:19 PM Author: boyish soggy business firm Tokyo subways all privately owned and run a profit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35034952) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 4:20 PM Author: nubile dog poop this is only true of part of the system, and even then the "private" company is a wholly state-owned enterprise, which is not what vulture capitalists in the USA mean when they want to privatize essential services (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036368) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:21 PM Author: Ultramarine Razzle-dazzle Liquid Oxygen why do you think incentives are not aligned? you are looking at the symptoms and not the root cause. you think MTA is stupid and at an information disadvantage to have this kind of contracting system that gouges them? they are not stupid
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:25 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich I'm saying the public interest is misaligned with anyone awarded a cost + % margin contract by the government without significant oversight. if I make 5% margin on every worker, it sure makes sense to hire 2-3 times as many as I really need.
individuals within the MTA may like it, and it may align with their own interests, especially if there's a revolving door between MTA and contracting firms. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:27 PM Author: outnumbered soul-stirring regret milk Our political system is a joke. We actually encourage unions and assorted other bullshit. Minority/female owned union firm that asks for 12x as much? Sure, where do we sign up? LOL @ the voters ever holding anyone accountable.
Gov contracting should be quality score and lowest cost bidding. The end. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: charismatic cocky multi-billionaire sandwich nobody would ever do a fixed bid for a YUGE project like this, but there has to be some better way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035092) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:34 PM Author: outnumbered soul-stirring regret milk Which is why you don't do a bid for the whole project, but for small, manageable parts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035099) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:43 PM Author: Aqua offensive philosopher-king locale they've tried it both ways you retarded MFE and it hasn't worked. currently they parcel out subcontracts. they're trying design-build on some NYS projects and it also isn't work.
also they already do lowest-cost bidding and get burned by change orders and cost overruns. and the lowest-bidder system forces them to keep choosing contractors that have burned them in the past. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:49 PM Author: bearded associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035227) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:43 PM Author: Aqua offensive philosopher-king locale LOL the minority/female is a teeny tiny infinitesimal part of this.
basically the MTA needs to explain why everything costs 5-10x what it should. the way that the bidding process is set up the minority/female firm wouldn't get the contract at 12x or even 1.5x costs. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 3:18 PM Author: outnumbered soul-stirring regret milk Ok, then who does? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036012) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 3:53 PM Author: bearded associate The way the system is set up for major public works projects, there is often only a few mega-corp's that will be available to do the job. There aren't enough bidders, and the one's who bid are the same type of over-staffed mega-corps. The bidding packages are drafted by engineering firms hired by the gov or public authority. They want to CYA (don't want to be told that project failed because you didn't account for everything in planning) and in some cases want to help the mega-construction corps that they have relationships with. So the bidding package will include these really detailed specifications for the project and over-bearing requirements.
A smaller construction corp with good leadership and a good track record would have to devote all of its staff to responding to the bid specs and even then has the risk of not winning (or even qualifying for) the bid. So the vast majority of companies are out of the running simply because they can't waste or risk the time with such bs. The corp's that can respond with a properly submitted bid have gigantic staffs dedicated to submitting bid responses. They're not going to bid low because they have a ton of overhead to cover.
So we already have major inefficiences here, even assuming nothing technically illegal. In NY, you've got additional considerations which will further drive up the costs. The unions and mega-corps know how to take care of their politicians and NY has very generous limits on campaign financing for state politicians. The public authorities here are often islands onto themselves. The incentives don't always align for the public authorities to keep costs down in their little fiefdoms. The safer bet is to keep the unions, engineering firms, and mega-corp's happy and pass the costs down on to the users. |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:59 PM Author: bearded associate "Gov contracting should be quality score and lowest cost bidding. The end."
In many ways, the strictures of the competitive bidding process can actually INCREASE costs for public projects. It becomes so difficult and expensive to submit a formal bid that only a couple of firms who have a big focus on gov contracts bid on the projects.
And it's not racial. The guys making out like bandits are well-connected working-class white guys. There's a whole host of issues here.
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Date: December 29th, 2017 3:18 PM Author: outnumbered soul-stirring regret milk Yeah, but ultimately it all boils down to corruption. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036007) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 3:25 PM Author: bearded associate What is "corruption"? Screaming corruption doesn't make the problem go away. There's a confluence of actors and laws here that have caused this particular situation. Campaign finance laws, Prevailing Wage Laws, Independent Public Authorities with little governmental oversight, an outdated public bidding process are a few of the issues here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036064) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:28 PM Author: lascivious alcoholic pisswyrm public unions need to be destroyed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035042) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:30 PM Author: outnumbered soul-stirring regret milk This isn't a public union. These are private unions for contractors that work off of gov contracts. You thought private unions aren't corrupt mobster bullshit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035054) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:36 PM Author: lascivious alcoholic pisswyrm cr i'm retarded
i wonder if elon musk's big innovation for his Boring Company is to just use an appropriate number of workers |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 1:44 PM Author: Aqua offensive philosopher-king locale MTA operations are also absurdly inefficient and that's a public union (TWU) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35035197) |
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Date: December 29th, 2017 3:17 PM Author: outnumbered soul-stirring regret milk No doubt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#35036000) |
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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:11 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) thats because theyre not white (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#49415350) |
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Date: November 10th, 2025 1:23 AM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) bar rafaeli looks less white than hitler, for example (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#49416220) |
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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:44 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#49418660) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#49421697) |
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Date: November 11th, 2025 9:14 PM Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3843382&forum_id=2Elisa#49421931) |