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Chicago IR committe VS Gtown MA in democracy and governance

Hi all I am facing to choose between Gtown£§&pou...
big corn cake psychic
  03/16/10
Being a Chinese national could actually help you in the DC j...
concupiscible crotch
  03/16/10
Chicago's IR program is much better than what you're getting...
ocher heady shrine
  03/16/10
why do so many fags want to do IR programs? what do they act...
Hairraiser Outnumbered Whorehouse Dragon
  03/16/10
IR? LOL!
amber gas station telephone
  03/16/10
i really want a serious answer
Hairraiser Outnumbered Whorehouse Dragon
  03/16/10
I will give you a serious answer, and you can laugh at me al...
concupiscible crotch
  03/16/10
i did IR because i had a useless humanities degree from a pu...
ocher heady shrine
  03/17/10
"Economics, finance, social work, women's rights, refug...
Hairraiser Outnumbered Whorehouse Dragon
  03/18/10
After a certain point, no program will ever truly prepare us...
concupiscible crotch
  03/18/10


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Date: March 16th, 2010 11:07 AM
Author: big corn cake psychic

Hi all

I am facing to choose between Gtown£§£ó MA of Democracy and Governanceand and Chicago£§£ó IR committe. both of them do not offer funding. My consideration is if I choose chicago, I can save one year(their program is very intensive and takes only one year). That means I will save one year's fee. And Chicago's reputation is surely higher than Gtown in my home country. But if I wanna stay in US, I need experience from internship, which I cannot get from one year MA program.

For gtown, I heard it is the #1 ma program in this field. But the cost is correspondingly higher than Chicago. about 80k totally. I want to make sure I can earn the money back soon after graduate. And the problem for me is I am Chinese, and alomst impossible to earn it back in China. So anyone know the labor market for international students especially for Chinese in DC?

PS.My ideal job is either in international consulation company or journalist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14406917)



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Date: March 16th, 2010 2:58 PM
Author: concupiscible crotch

Being a Chinese national could actually help you in the DC job market.

This is just speculation, but with some of the new tensions b/w China and the US, they could value having the "insider" input at some think tanks.

None of us, if I get in, are going to earn the money back "soon" after we graduate. It'll be a slow process at the beginning. I would say Gtown based on the internship/networking possibilities out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14408723)



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Date: March 16th, 2010 4:19 PM
Author: ocher heady shrine

Chicago's IR program is much better than what you're getting from GTown's MA of Democracy and Governance program. Go with that, save the 1-year tuition, study your ass off, and make good connections. Some great professors in that program, and you're going to come out with some very solid training.

As for work/internship stuff, just do the OPT after you graduate. that'll give you 1 year to work in the U.S., and will probably improve your chances of getting something full-time afterwards that allows you to stay in the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14409415)



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Date: March 16th, 2010 1:39 PM
Author: Hairraiser Outnumbered Whorehouse Dragon

why do so many fags want to do IR programs? what do they actually train you to do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14408112)



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Date: March 16th, 2010 4:56 PM
Author: amber gas station telephone

IR? LOL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14409686)



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Date: March 16th, 2010 10:05 PM
Author: Hairraiser Outnumbered Whorehouse Dragon

i really want a serious answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14412919)



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Date: March 16th, 2010 10:29 PM
Author: concupiscible crotch

I will give you a serious answer, and you can laugh at me all you want.

IR has many different facets. It's not all just about a bunch of do-gooders planting fields or handing out food. Once you're in these programs, there are so many directions to go. Economics, finance, social work, women's rights, refugee assistance, nuclear nonproliferation, disaster relief. The list is endless.

The reason we pick IR, or at least the reason I am picking IR, is because I have always known 2 things: 1.) I am blessed to be able to have a safe, sound life around me and I want to help others achieve that as well. 2.) The world is bigger than your local community, your biweekly paycheck or your favorite football team. We live in this world and are interested in interacting with different aspects that we wouldn't be able to if we kept local jobs.

There. I've bared my soul and I am ready for you to call us all fags again so that we can just get this over with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14413257)



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Date: March 17th, 2010 3:27 PM
Author: ocher heady shrine

i did IR because i had a useless humanities degree from a public school and wanted to upgrade to a postgraduate degree in a semi-useless field. it was a nice stepping stone in that regard.

as for whether i learned anything? yeah, i did. i learned shitloads because i busted my ass in every course and took 140% of the workload. can't say the same about my colleagues though, who were either retarded fucks or lazy as shit and just coasted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14418549)



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Date: March 18th, 2010 2:07 PM
Author: Hairraiser Outnumbered Whorehouse Dragon

"Economics, finance, social work, women's rights, refugee assistance, nuclear nonproliferation, disaster relief."

there is nothing wrong with working in these areas. what i don't understand is what IR degrees actually prepare you for. for example, look at the Gtown course curriculum:

"http://www1.georgetown.edu/departments/democracyandgovernance/courses/"

this just looks just like social science blah for the most part.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14426515)



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Date: March 18th, 2010 5:32 PM
Author: concupiscible crotch

After a certain point, no program will ever truly prepare us for a career. My finance degree from undergrad has proved absolutely worthless in my career, as far as applying anything I learned. It's just about getting the degree.

I think that IR, to an extent, is like that as well. Non-profits will look at these programs first when seeking new staff. The alumni networks are important, getting exposure to the professors and their research is important, the internships the programs offer are important. I think that the actual classes are about 50% of the value of the programs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1252274&forum_id=3#14428261)