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FINALLY got my rejection (anongradstudent)
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Date: May 4th, 2009 1:20 PM Author: Ivory property took them long enough. guess they couldn't find any room in the budget for me.
right now, leaning toward just sticking with my current program and finishing up as quickly as i possibly can.
bummer, but at least i have a program to fall back on. odd that they seemed so enthusiastic about me at first, but such is the nature of the beast, i guess. |
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Date: May 4th, 2009 2:14 PM Author: Wild Snowy Tanning Salon Friendly Grandma Sorry to hear that, buddy. Good luck in the future! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11637518) |
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Date: May 4th, 2009 6:54 PM Author: Balding mad-dog skullcap Why not cut your losses? Petition for some type of terminal master's and use it selectively with prospective employers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11640496) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 8:13 AM Author: Ivory property i've already got a masters from a far better school. don't need another one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11646805) |
Date: May 4th, 2009 8:16 PM Author: Translucent ungodly death wish sorry to hear that man. really, that sucks.
I agree that the best course of action is to try and finish ASAP. that would mean a whole different orientation, right? No more extraneous papers, conference presenting, etc. Just requirements, prospectus, dissertation and out (publishing and presenting only the fruits of this process).
im debating between the two paths myself - its a tricky beast. One side allegedly sets you up better for an academic gig. again, allegedly. the other side gets you out and moving on.
whats your timeframe like now? |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 8:16 AM Author: Ivory property if i go balls to the wall, i can be finished in 2 years (MAYBE 3 semesters if I really hit it hard, but this is highly unlikely). i'm taking my last two courses in the fall, and my goal is to take my prelims at the end of next semester.
right now, the plan is to quit my job and travel a bit this summer, then come back and just get this thing done. my department really emphasizes conference presentations and publications, but if my goal is to get into the policy world, then as you said, it will be more beneficial to me not to bend over backwards to pad my CV in preparation for some sort of tenure-track gig (which i probably wouldn't be able to get anyway, given my limited talent in this area). i think that, if you're in a top program, those little extras become less essential than they are if you're in a shitshow like I am. |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:06 AM Author: Charismatic Spruce Locus "i think that, if you're in a top program, those little extras become less essential than they are if you're in a shitshow like I am."
Do you mind elaborating more on your last point? |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:36 AM Author: Ivory property people who are in the top few programs in their field can rely more than others on the reputation of their department to carry them. other departments can be pretty sure that they're getting a competent scholar when they hire someone graduating from a top program, even if that graduate didn't do a ton of publishing or presenting. if you're in an average program, though, you need to work much harder to prove yourself and your skill set, and that means presenting at every conference opportunity and publishing as much as you possibly can (which, as a grad student, usually means being second author on a bunch of faculty papers). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11647195) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:43 AM Author: Translucent ungodly death wish heh, thats probably true but man these days everyone's screwed (in most fields) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11647260) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:45 AM Author: Ivory property well, yeah, true. although you're not nearly as fucked if you aren't hell-bent on entering academia afterwards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11647276) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 12:32 PM Author: Translucent ungodly death wish sucks though what one has to do to "leave that door open" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11648192) |
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Date: May 6th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: Ivory property blah, yeah that's for sure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11659330) |
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Date: May 7th, 2009 1:07 AM Author: Translucent ungodly death wish thats been my plan...but sheesh, one really has to DO this full heartedly to even keep decent options open (at least in my oversupply low demand field). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11665894) |
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Date: May 7th, 2009 10:09 AM Author: Ivory property yeah, same here. there are probably more non-academic options for someone in my field than there are for most of the social sciences, but you're right--in order to even have a prayer of a tenure-track job in academia, you pretty much need to invest everything you have from an energy standpoint into doing the degree the "right way." what makes it even more annoying is that many of the big conferences in my field are overseas, and we are only allotted something like $500/yr for travel by the department, so we end up having to pay out of pocket or find some sort of outside funding if we want to present at or attend most conferences. it's a real pain in the ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11667451) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 11:08 AM Author: Charismatic Spruce Locus Ok. How does this balance play out if you want to go into policy work or the private sector? Thanks man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11647429) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 11:25 AM Author: Ivory property well, it depends on what you want to do, but if you're like me, and you want to do grassroots or lobbying communication work in the policy world, it's far more important that you network with the right people (presumably through past work experience) and write a compelling dissertation. the crediential itself and the skills that come with it are what lots of private sector organizations are most interested in, with publications and whatnot being an added bonus. on the flip side, for academia, they are looking closely at your academic CV (papers, publications, ability to be productive as a scholar) and don't really care about past work experience or networking outside of the academic universe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11647579) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 9:20 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal stage why do u suck so much? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11646878) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 9:45 AM Author: Ivory property and what exactly makes you keep from doing humanity a favor and killing yourself? anonymously insulting people on an internet message board like a big man? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11646960) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:00 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal stage lol, dont like the attention? then stop blogging yr ttt life to the whole internetz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11647044) |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:30 AM Author: Ivory property i'm pretty sure that i'm far more successful than you. are you enjoying your sophomore year? what was worse, getting beaten up in high school or being ignored in college?
btw, i'm also fairly sure you wouldn't have the balls to confront me or anyone else on this board IRL. |
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Date: May 5th, 2009 10:55 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal stage haha, this is some softbatch shit. what have you done with your life thats so fucking impressive? get over yourself, you tttfuck.
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Date: May 7th, 2009 9:46 PM Author: Swollen preventive strike gaping :( Finish asap dude, and by then your work experience will be more important anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11673752) |
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Date: May 8th, 2009 10:11 AM Author: Ivory property you speak the truth
you still headed to wharton? |
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Date: May 8th, 2009 11:43 AM Author: Swollen preventive strike gaping Did you really want to do academia anyway? Yeah, I am off to Wharton man. Also first generation ivy ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11678087) |
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Date: May 8th, 2009 12:23 PM Author: Ivory property don't forget to cry at some point
nah, i'm moving away from academia as a career choice |
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Date: May 11th, 2009 12:19 AM Author: Swollen preventive strike gaping Teehee, I'll have to get QUITE trashed to cry about this, although I am quite psyched about it ;) Yeah, academia isn't all that great, unless you're a prof at a really awesome school in a great city. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=992241&forum_id=3#11703711) |