WHICH FIRMS have made associates DISAPPEAR?
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Date: October 7th, 2009 2:44 PM Author: stats2130
The NALP directory lists law firm information as of February 1, 2009. But right now, it's early October, 2009. What law firms have had a significant number of associates "disappear" in the last 8 months?
Certainly, some laid off associates before February 1. And some have "deferred" associates, or given them a year off. Others may have left voluntarily. Still others may have been elevated to partner. And some have already started incoming associates.
But could we notice any significant trends? Here's a look at the home offices for the Vault 25. (Caution: firms may classify "associate" differently for NALP than on its own Web site, among other factors.)
VAULT. OFFICE (CITY): FEB 1 to CURRENT, TOTAL CHANGE, % CHANGE
1. Wachtell (New York): 127 to 117, -10, -8%
2. Cravath (New York): 355 to 365, +10, +3%
3. Skadden (New York): 642 to ~425*, -217, -34%
4. S&C (New York): ~351** to 292, -59, -17%
5. DPW (New York): 442 to 372, -70, -16%
6. Weil (New York): 500 to 402, -98, -20%
7. STB (New York): 510 to ~425*, -85, -17%
8. Cleary (New York): 336 to 310, -26, -8%
9. Covington (DC): 227 to ~200*, -27, -12%
10. Kirkland (Chicago): 384 to 325, -59, -15%
11. W&C (DC): 119 to ~115*, -4, -3%
12. Debevoise (New York): 379 to ~335*, -44, -12%
13. Paul Weiss (New York): 376 to ~308*, -68, -18%
14. GDC (LA): inc.
15. Sidley (Chicago): 310 to 247, -63, -20%
16. WilmerHale (DC): 256 to ~90*, -166, -65%
17. Latham (LA): 221 to 152, -69, -31%
18. A&P (DC/McLean): 246 to 208, -38, -15%
19. Jones Day (DC): 108 to 98, -10, -9%
20. White & Case (New York): 317 to ~190*, -127, -40%
21. Shearman (New York): 357 to ~220*, -137, -38%
22. OMM (LA): 152 to ~80*, -72, -47%
23. Quinn Emanuel (all): inc.
24. Ropes (Boston): 353 to ~315*, -38, -11%
25. Hogan (DC): 281 to 210, -71, -25%
[I double-checked the numbers on WilmerHale, but someone else can correct me if I made a mistake.]
* estimated count from Web site entries
** estimated count from NALP form
Thoughts? Errors? Thanks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12929363) |
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Date: October 7th, 2009 3:05 PM Author: ......,.,..,.,,,,..,.,.,.,,,...,,.....,
FIRMS -40% OR OVER:
16. WilmerHale (DC): 256 to ~90*, -166, -65%
20. White & Case (New York): 317 to ~190*, -127, -40%
22. OMM (LA): 152 to ~80*, -72, -47%
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12929576)
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Date: October 7th, 2009 3:23 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,.,.........,,,,,,,,,.,.,.
Inaccutate and unreliable, but surely indicative that something's going on.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12929729) |
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Date: October 7th, 2009 3:32 PM Author: ..,,...,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,...
why dont u double-check for us, thanks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12929830) |

Date: October 7th, 2009 3:35 PM Author: ....,.,.,.,.,,,
Well this is weird... NALP shows 343 for Kirkland NY, and handcount on Kirkland's website shows 336. That's just a 2% drop.
Weren't there "layoffs" in that office a few weeks ago?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12929876) |
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Date: October 7th, 2009 3:42 PM Author: ..,,...,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,...
results?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12929973) |
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Date: October 7th, 2009 3:53 PM Author: ..,,...,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,...
ty
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12930091) |
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Date: October 14th, 2009 4:53 PM Author: ..,,...,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,...
op qualified all of that.
also, atl reported that wilmerhale has a massive difference because of its internal "senior associate," which means that isnt as bad either
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12987526) |

Date: October 7th, 2009 3:38 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,....................,,,,,,,,,,,,,...
NEXT PAGE PLEASE
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Date: October 7th, 2009 3:49 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,.,.........,,,,,,,,,.,.,.
Considering normal attrition is 20-25%, is it safe to say any firm above that might be in trouble?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12930045) |

Date: October 14th, 2009 9:06 AM Author: ..,,...,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12984810) |

Date: October 14th, 2009 10:44 PM Author: ...,.,..,,.,....,,,,.,...,,.,,,....,,,.,.
all of them
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#12990502) |
Date: October 16th, 2009 2:30 PM Author: ..,,...,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,...
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1105017&forum_id=2#13003894) |
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