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Date: December 20th, 2004 8:23 PM Author: aphrodisiac rose sneaky criminal point Why is Yale considered to be better than Harvard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1821123) |
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Date: December 20th, 2004 8:24 PM Author: snowy elastic band No grades means the low achievement of URM's will not be detected by employers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1821126) |
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Date: December 20th, 2004 8:27 PM Author: jade bespoke center yawn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1821132) |
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Date: December 20th, 2004 8:28 PM Author: snowy elastic band At least you can become a JAG. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1821139) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 12:06 PM Author: boyish sapphire abode Subject: Sour grape juice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823703) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 3:11 AM Author: Scarlet indian lodge yale has grades... pooeater. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823016) |
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Date: December 20th, 2004 8:28 PM Author: jade bespoke center Basically, it's smaller and more selective. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1821136) |
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Date: December 20th, 2004 8:29 PM Author: Trip organic girlfriend I consider Harvard better. That said, I am a Yale reject, so it may sound like sour grapes to you. I think some may consider Yale better because it is smaller and takes fewer applicants. It is also possible that Yale's small size will help its students in the recruitment process. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1821140) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 2:28 AM Author: dull faggotry Correct. Harvard is better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1822874) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:12 PM Author: marvelous henna sanctuary Who says it is better? Is a Ferrari better than an Aston Martin? Is pumpkin cheesecake better than chocolate chip cheesecake? The stats used to evaluate these schools are ridiculously manipulatable. Just look at Washington and Lee giving half of the country fee waivers to get their acceptance rate down, and resulting national ranking up. Harvard may stress numbers less than Yale, thus taking a hit in the rankings. The rankings are not legitimate, and no one should make decisions solely based on these rankings. Comparing law schools is like comparing artists. Surely, no one can say definitively Van Gough is better, or worse, than Monet. Both are artists, both use paint, and both are peculiar. It would, however, be fair to say that both are better than my neice, just as it is to say Harvard is better than University of Alabama. HYS are about as good as each other, Georgetown and UVA are about as good as each other, but to say that one is better than the other when you are so close is pointless. For the most part, there are "top ten" schools, "next ten" schools, and everyone else. And, after you get your first job, no one will care whether you went to Harvard of University of Alabama; they will care only about how much money you will make THEM. |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:23 PM Author: misunderstood base You're terrible. Just terrible.
Harvard obviously stresses numbers much *more* than Yale, for starters. |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 6:27 PM Author: marvelous henna sanctuary Did you see the word "may" in the relevant sentence to which I assume you are referring? I presume your haste to flame got the best of your critical reading skills. The point was that numbers are reflections less of quality and more of the "style" of the admissions committees of schools. Harvard, for example, has the luxury of being less numbers-driven. I did not, however, say it was. |
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Date: December 31st, 2004 12:04 AM Author: Mustard insecure filthpig do u attend Harvard of University of Alabama? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1861240) |
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Date: April 9th, 2006 4:26 AM Author: vermilion locus 169 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5547725) |
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Date: January 29th, 2005 12:02 PM Author: Scarlet indian lodge Suggesting that Harvard "may" be less numbers-driven than Yale when it obviously isn't is flamebait. I presume your haste to be an idiot got the best of your critical thinking skills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2023534) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 7:28 PM Author: Know-it-all market boltzmann Subject: Pumpkin cheesecake is definitely better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2037189) |
Date: December 21st, 2004 2:29 AM Author: Sienna queen of the night most selective. that's probably the only real reason.
although no grades, 47% doing clerkships, and all that is good too. |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 3:08 AM Author: Frozen corner police squad The only reason is they limit their class to 1/3 of Harvard's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823011) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 3:15 AM Author: bull headed bearded crackhouse gaming laptop The biggest reason is that Yale crushes Harvard in per capita placement into the legal profession's most prestigious circles: SCOTUS clerks and academia.
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Date: December 21st, 2004 3:20 AM Author: charismatic stage both of which money hungry xoxo tools dont give a shit about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823031) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 3:24 AM Author: jade bespoke center XOXO tools care about prestige than money. That's why everyone here would pay out the ass to go to harvard, even though harvard numbers would get them a scholarship at GULC and job paying the same $$$ at graduation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823036) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 11:31 AM Author: cream multi-colored faggot firefighter a SCOTUS clerkship with a $150000 bonus afterward sounds like a shitload of money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823541) |
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Date: December 21st, 2004 12:24 PM Author: aphrodisiac rose sneaky criminal point who gives 150,000 bonuses? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1823786) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2004 1:32 AM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner A number of firms with Supreme Court litigation practices (usually in DC). $150k bonus and you start as a 3rd year associate, I believe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1827696) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2004 1:35 AM Author: stirring idiot dog poop Which still leaves you a little short financially than if you'd not clerked at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1827707) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:28 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy house ceo Yeah, but you've spent a few years working 40 hours a week doing interesting work in a low stress environment rather than writing memos no one will ever read for 80 hours a week at biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1859779) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:35 PM Author: misunderstood base Well, no. Doing appellate litigation at one of those DC firms is a relatively humane way to do biglaw. Your work is interesting and it matters, and the hours are not particularly bad.
But those two years? Where on earth did you get the idea that SCOTUS clerks work 40 hours a week? The SCOTUS clerkship traditionally involves longer hours than, say, Wachtell. And the feeder clerkship that gets you there is sometimes even more brutal (Kozinski). |
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Date: December 22nd, 2004 1:36 AM Author: Twinkling provocative coldplay fan it's been noted that the bonus pretty much puts you back to where you'd be if you worked at a firm for those two years instead of clerking....but it's still sweet.
Another thing that has been noted is that Yale's f/p/hp system probably hurts those would otherwise be top half to top third that don't have a bunch of hp's.
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Date: January 3rd, 2005 7:40 PM Author: poppy deer antler (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1874661) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:29 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy house ceo No grades is the main thing. Otherwise, I'd probably choose H>Y. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1859781) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:48 PM Author: Dun set kitty Subject: "No grades" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1859819) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 5:53 PM Author: misunderstood base This comports with my impression of the "no grades" issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1859830) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 6:04 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Knowing this, in retrospect, would you choose Yale over Harvard (I ask as a recent YLS admit)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1859863) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 6:21 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1859923) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 6:45 PM Author: Vibrant lime church pisswyrm Jamie,
I'm also a recent Yale and Harvard admit, but I think I'm leaning towards Yale. I want to go in to international women's rights, and probably academia at some point. I know Yale has a great reputation for international law, human rights, and sending people into academia, but it seems to have almost no classes on family law, women's rights, children's rights etc. Do you have an opinion on this? It also surprises me that Yale, as the top (arguably) school in teh country has the lowest percentage of female faculty. Do you know if Yale lets students do a semester at another school if it doesn't offer classes in the subject they are interested in? Thanks! |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 7:32 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860177) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 7:37 PM Author: dashing son of senegal corn cake You can always opt to do your last year at another school that focuses more on your interests, such as family law... It's called being a visiting student or something to that effect.
Almost every school I know allows you to do it, you just have a compelling interest, which I think you have. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2005 11:46 AM Author: cordovan supple pit people who are hurt When my sister was a 3L (about 5 years ago) there was an exchange program with NYU that was kind of like HLS' program with Boalt. You might want to ask about this when you call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1872768) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 7:46 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner "Do you know what you want to do with your degree?"
Ideally, clerk and do appellate litigation.
"there is also a lot of more or less subtle cut-throat stuff going on."
Please elucidate. |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:19 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860356) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:24 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Thanks for the info. This is definitely my first time hearing about any competition of that sort at Yale. Obviously I have much more research to do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860372) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:44 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860440) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:53 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people Subject: 1L here I've seen a ton of this going on, too..... A ton. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860468) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 9:56 PM Author: Excitant confused national security agency This is all correct. Competition here is probably similar to competition elsewhere, with the big exception that people here seem less concerned about grades. That may change next semester, though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860674) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:04 PM Author: Emerald Spectacular Space I should be studying for exams (a great, but to me, insufficient reason for choosing YLS!), but I'll weigh in anyways.
What someone wrote above about the grades at YLS mattering was also mentioned to me my several YLS alums. They told me that if you want to work at W&C or Munger, clerk at a pimp court, or do something similarly competitive, they're going to compare the number of honors you've got to other folks in similar classes. They also said that, *generally* (not exclusively), profs gravitate towards the Harvard/Rhodes Scholars types because they're a known quantity. I didn't want any part of this. Plus, I had a more positive "gestalt factor" at SLS and think that the youth of our faculty is a terrific aspect to the school.
But at least your 1st semester at Yale is undoubtedly more chilled come finals time. I don't think it's unreasonable at all here (pretty much like college), but I'm sure some of my classmates would tell you otherwise. And I suspect being average at YLS is "better" than being average here, although if you get into all of HYS, I'm sure you'd succeed anywhere.
Good luck. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:01 PM Author: Greedy fiercely-loyal orchestra pit "They also said that, *generally* (not exclusively), profs gravitate towards the Harvard/Rhodes Scholars types because they're a known quantity."
What do you mean by "gravitate" exactly? Befriend them? Write them nice recommendations? It would be rather disheartening to learn that the majority of Yale students are disadvantaged because they didn't pursue some high-flying scholarship. I'd like to believe otherwise... |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:37 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:40 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Interesting, but do you think the grass is really greener on the other side (i.e. H)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860429) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:45 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860447) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:52 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner I won't have AIM access for the next few weeks. What's your e-mail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860466) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:53 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people Gimme yours.
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:55 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1860473) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2005 7:55 PM Author: Crimson principal's office I'm at Harvard, and didn't have the option of going to Yale.
If you look at the proportions of partners at top law firms, though Yale claims to be less corporate, the relative proportions still seem to be Yale > Harvard > Stanford. I just did a quick check w/ Wachtell, Skadden, and Shearman. This means that whether it's clerkship or becoming partner, your advantage seemingly goes Y > H > S, so don't worry too much.
I'm quite content w/ Harvard, even if there are things I don't like. I do think people at Yale have it easier, but hey, Harvard ain't bad either. |
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Date: January 3rd, 2005 11:33 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1875768) |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:44 PM Author: Emerald Spectacular Space Dude, are you coming out to the Bay Area this summer or doing NYC?
The only regret I have about not going to New Haven is that the "ethnic men crib" didn't pan out... |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:46 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people Oh, hey, stranger!
I will be on the East Coast. I've landed some fairly nice call-back interviews.
How have you been?
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:49 PM Author: Emerald Spectacular Space Well done! Welcome to the corporate life. It's not nearly as bad as everyone says it is (in fact, it can be quite interesting & fun).
I'm, well, "chillin'" and preparing a good time tomorrow night. You going to the city?
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:50 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people I flying out to the City in the morning -- am going to meet up with a bunch of friends from high school and college. Should be a good time.
Dude, the corporate life looks great. No complaints here. |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:56 PM Author: Emerald Spectacular Space Good deal man. Good deal.
I'll let you know if I go back to the east coast. We can do some DC-NYC weekend parties.
Make sure you put the douchebags in their proper place... |
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Date: December 30th, 2004 8:58 PM Author: disrespectful church building main people Nice chatting to ya, old friend.
Keep in touch, and good luck with Munger!
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Date: December 31st, 2004 12:01 AM Author: Razzle fighting tanning salon affirmative action wow, you got bitter over christmas break! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1861228) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:21 PM Author: Indecent prole A second here. I'm a 1L sort of regretting not having gone elsewhere too, for a lot of the same reasons. Yale is a pretty one-note environment (self-assured-to-arrogant, driven-to-obsessive wonky social sicence types who are intolerant liberals, gifted schmoozers, and often as not the sons and daughters or grandsons and granddaughters of people who did extremely well in the corporate game these Yalies claim so loudly to despise), and the place can start to feel pretty toxic if you don't sing that note (and you don't really have to diverge that far from it; I've found that being a semi-alcoholic school-hating money-loving agnostic liberal of white-trash origins doesn't work out so well). Quite frankly if you are shocked to get in and think you're too normal for the place, you're probably right. Going to Yale may well have its payoffs in the long run, but, until I get that job offer I think I otherwise wouldn't have gotten, I'll probably keep regretting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1877555) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:26 PM Author: misunderstood base "until I get that job offer I think I otherwise wouldn't have gotten, I'll probably keep regretting."
So you've got about nine months of regretting left. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:42 PM Author: Indecent prole Could be, but there's a good chance it will be hard to convince myself Yale mattered all that much, because I don't think I want a clerkship or a highly prestigious firm (I'll be doing very careful hours/salary/COL calculations and might well decide I want to go to Secondtier, Consolationprize, LLP, in SecondaryCity U.S.A., which presumably would have been happy to have me even if I'd gone to, say, NYU). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1877627) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:43 PM Author: Indecent prole Also, no one wants to sound TOO whiny. The absolute lack of fear about getting a decent job if you go to Yale shouldn't be underestimated, though in its own way it can contribute to the onset of depressive lethargy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1877634) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:12 PM Author: talented infuriating feces hunting ground 1L procrastinating torts here. i agree to a very large extent with what's been said thus far (i, too, have seriously considered spending the next few years at the big H). what bothers me is the administration's ignorance of the many easily perceptible problems at yls and, above all, the admit-weekend panels' misrepresentation of the social climate here. lobachevsky and misterbasie, care to provide any hints about who you two are?
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Date: January 4th, 2005 4:16 PM Author: Violent honey-headed ticket booth clown I'm going to want to speak with you "cool kids" at yale when I visit...this seems not so good for me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1877990) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:26 PM Author: Indecent prole I'm reluctant to let on who I am, given all the smack I was just talking, but here's one "hint": I'll be lost on any "Duty" questions on the Torts exam!
Agreed about the administration. The only two major problems they've created are the lack of real writing instruction for 1Ls (which sends a really bad message, in addition making it suck to be us) and their assignment of certain, um, eccentric and potentially-highly-irritating professors to teach first-semester classes. Both of these problems are, however, huge. I know a few people who have been turning chronically alienated because of the second thing. There's a sort of Howard-Hughes-is-running-things vibe about the whole place. On the bright side, at least we're choosing our own professors now rather than waiting another semester. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:43 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner "the lack of real writing instruction for 1Ls (which sends a really bad message, in addition making it suck to be us)"
I've been wondering about that. Zara mentioned that earlier, as well. Is the writing instruction bad? Since writing is so important in law, I would be surprised if the nation's #1 law school didn't teach legal writing well. I noticed that there is a course devoted to legal writing...would you recommend that? |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:50 PM Author: Indecent prole There is a course devoted to Legal Writing. It is limited to like 10 students, and the only people who get in are 3Ls who have listed it as a first-choice option at least once before becoming 3Ls.
Otherwise, 1Ls receive an average of .7 hours per week of instruction in "research and writing." This very interesting dude who is our writing instructor gave us one hour of presentation on how to write a memo, one hour on how to write a brief, one hour on how to take an exam (that hour ended with a story about a dead baby and the instructor choking up). Each time we meet with our writing instructor (oh, and it's worth mentioning that there's only one for the entire school) he emphasizes to us how absurd it is that we're learning to write a brief etc. in an hour. We do have to write memos and briefs and mock complaints etc. for our small-section classes, and we get feedback on these from TAs and to a lesser extent professors. The main thing is that we do only one of each. So I've written only one memo and could easily graduate from here without having written any more.
On the other hand, we have to write two major academic papers before graduating.
None of this is surprising. It's all a function of Yale's general anti-practitioner bias. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:57 PM Author: Awkward hot old irish cottage I think that Yale's first year legal writing instruction is probably the worst feature of the YLS curriculum. The quality of instruction, which is limited by time constraints to start with, varies wildly from small group to small group.
Although it won't ever happen, I sort of wish that YLS would require a semester in a clinic. The clinical program at Yale is marvelous, and I think is a really good practice-based supplement to the classroom curriculum. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:04 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Thanks, I will have to look into this. BTW, have you heard any word about Yale maybe starting up an appellate litigation clinic a la Stanford and Harvard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879162) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:11 PM Author: Awkward hot old irish cottage I vaguely remember a movement for this before graduation, but I was pretty tapped out the second half of the year so I don't know if there has been any movement. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see one started--it's mainly just a matter of getting a faculty sponsor, I expect. There's already a federal litigation clinic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879183) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:01 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879153) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:50 PM Author: Indecent prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1878347) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 5:40 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner "(i, too, have seriously considered spending the next few years at the big H)"
Yet you stay. So there must be *something* good, right? |
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Date: December 31st, 2004 12:25 AM Author: Mustard insecure filthpig just when it was getting interesting, they took it off board...mother fuckers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1861380) |
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Date: December 31st, 2004 12:28 AM Author: startled pozpig factory reset button (i posted sort of often during last year's admissions cycle under a different moniker... so hi to zara, et al, even if you don't know who i am.)
a few scattered and submerged thoughts:
anyway so it's too bad about the "soft" competition at yls, especially if it leads to the disillusionment of some people who got into what so many consider the holy grail of law schools.
i'm a 1L at hls, last year at this time really wanted toget into yale. though we don't talk about it much i know a few people who would have preferred yale as well--some just slightly, some by a huge margin. hopefully we're all over that by now, and if we aren't, that's stupid.
i also hope all you columbia, northwestern, penn, wustl, whatever--all the way down--look at this thread, feel satisfied with where you are and quit trolling.
incidentally the competition here, so far, is more of a necessary fact than an atmosphere--everyone's pretty damn smart, and most people aren't gonna slack. people are cooperative though. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:36 PM Author: puce nofapping telephone I just wanted to note that Yale really does have an amazing faculty from a scholarship perspective. And for a smaller school, it is a pretty big faculty (considerably bigger than Chicago and Stanford, I believe), which means more choices and opportunities for students.
Of course, this shouldn't be the only consideration when choosing a law school, but I think it helps to explain why Yale is so highly-regarded. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 2:42 PM Author: Idiotic adulterous puppy I've been admitted by HLS, and although I would really like to go to YLS, I am starting to think that the entire prestige gap between H and Y can be attributed to the moderate difference in selectivity. A month ago I would've gladly given up H for Y, now I'm starting to think it might not be such an obvious choice.
Then again, I really have no point of reference to be making such comments. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:33 PM Author: Big Den Therapy Just wanted to note... I think mid-December/January of 1L is the most demoralized time for Yale 1Ls. It's just before exams,which I was worried I wouldn't be any good at writing because I hadn't had much instruction, and at that point in my tenure, I was doubting whether I wanted to be a lawyer at all. After the summer and 2L OCI (FIP), I felt a whole lot better about the whole thing. So, chin up, Lobachevsky.
However, unlike the posters in this thread, I acquired a tight group of friends who are all normal people and stray significantly from what has been described as the Yale mold. Most of them are a few years older than the median, were raised middle-class or so, and are more conservative than the general population. They tend to care less about how they do (college was a longer time ago) and go out ~4x a week. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:36 PM Author: Awkward hot old irish cottage Although I'm pretty certain I'd choose YLS again knowing now what I did when I was applying, the complaints listed here are not without merit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879061) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:41 PM Author: Big Den Therapy Agreed, didn't mean to be completely dismissive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879078) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:53 PM Author: Awkward hot old irish cottage Yeah, I didn't refresh the window and see your post before making mine. I think it is a pretty good point.
Also, what torts class do you have, for comparison? I ask because I seem to remember that Loba has Guido for torts. The 5 times a week 8:45 AM thing is pretty demoralizing in and of itself. |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:55 PM Author: Big Den Therapy I had Ellickson, who's at least funny and more practical than your average YLS prof. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879136) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 8:59 PM Author: Flatulent Lascivious Knife Plus, I think if you've been out of school for a while, YLS is a godsend because I, for one, have had the easiest transition back to school I could have ever hoped for. I also think Lobachevsky got stuck with some particularly unhelpful intro professors -- I was lucky to have had (with one exception) no major name-brand faculty, which meant that the courses focused mostly on the material and not the professors' pet paradigms.
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:00 PM Author: Awkward hot old irish cottage Yeah, I have no complaints about Ellickson. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879151) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:08 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Well, it's still very comforting to know that not everyone wants to transfer to H. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879174) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:11 PM Author: aphrodisiac rose sneaky criminal point Before you said you were 80% sure you were going to Yale. Is that still the case? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879184) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:27 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Lol, yes, for several reasons. I've never given much weight to grass-is-greener-on-the-other-side arguments (part of my reason for starting the Harvard thread...to see if H people would bitch about their school). I think H and Y are both stellar institutions, and it really is a matter of personal fit. For what I want to do, I think Yale is probably better than Harvard (if I wanted to do corporate law, I would probably think otherwise). But I still have a lot of research to do and people to talk to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879238) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 10:19 PM Author: Indecent prole Just don't let anyone try to convince you to not go to Yale because of geography; New Haven has some great things going for it, including the awesome apartments you can get for reasonable rent if you play your cards right, and as for bars my whigger, whacker, and whatino friends in NYC only WISH they had the nightlife options I do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879465) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 9:20 PM Author: Indecent prole Yeah, and don't take whining from the likes of me TOO seriously--remember what time of year it is in New Haven ("wintry mix," for the love of god), and I personally don't see any reason to think stuff's better (for me or objectively) at Harvard or anywhere else. The message that should come across, though, is that law school really is all about fit, like they tell you, and I'm especially irked at myself b/c I foresaw a bad fit for me at Yale and came anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#1879218) |
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Date: January 4th, 2005 11:00 PM Author: Galvanic French Chef Plaza another yale 1L here. i agree with a lot of what has been said above. i can't add to it for now, because i have to study for exams like the rest of us.
i only hope, however, that someone will forward a link to this to the administration and/or admissions office. there are many tangible improvements that can be put in place and i hope that the right people are aware of these sentiments.
i also think part of the problem is that there are only 3 student representatives per class and the students are not really involved in school committees, etc., unlike many peer schools. |
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Date: January 29th, 2005 7:09 AM Author: Maroon Senate Ape Subject: Thanks I have to be honest with you all, I just got into HLS and have been pretty decided for a while that's where I want to go - for pretty much the exact issues this conversation has brought up, combined with the fact that I'm crazy about Boston.
Thanks to Chillin, Loba, and Mister for their frank commentary, I just don't see myself fitting into the environment in New Haven: not nearly enough of the robe-wearing, beer-brewing, pot-smoking, book-reading, exotic women-chasing careless good times I have come to know in my life. Not that Harvard is all 8-balls and hookers, but a lot of the people I met there just didn't take them selves that seriously, which I find refreshing.
Also, motivated social climbers piss me off.
Is New Haven outside of Yale relevant? What's it like? Am I way off base in my rush to judge here? Let me know. Hell, you can even berate me if you want:
Hick_dawg@yahoo.com |
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Date: January 29th, 2005 11:29 AM Author: Metal Pervert you're going to Harvard Law to avoid people who take themselves too seriously? What? And the YLS people I know as an undergrad here are some of the most down-to-earth people on the university campus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2023457) |
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Date: January 29th, 2005 1:00 PM Author: Indecent prole Dawg, YLS, like everything, always gets a slightly unfair rap in generalizations--there's definitely that kind of pimpin' hard-drinking Game Cube-playing thing going on here, as a minority but definitely not un-visible scene; I even know at least one or two Asian-fetish dudes (if that's what you mean by "exotic"--although, if that's your thing, East-Asian-American people of both genders seem to have less of a representation here than you'd expect; I strongly suspect there are a lot more at HLS). But my understanding of the situation is that that scene is basically dominant at virtually all other top law schools, and here it does seem to be on the down-low a bit. Meaning that, within the law school proper, you're going to hear a lot less about the Cube than about the Solomon Amendment and shit. As for New Haven vs. Cambridge, it's pretty simple: if there's a part of you that really likes going to working-class places, eating working-class wings, admiring working-class patriotic posters, listening to working-class songs by Foreigner, and drinking bud and admiring working-class breasts and playing pool, then New Haven has it all over Cambridge. I happen to have this going on and to think it's underrated in general. Most people don't agree. If you don't, New Haven has nothing to offer over Cambridge. |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 5:53 PM Author: canary cerebral nursing home "pimpin' hard-drinking Game Cube-playing thing going on here"
oohh, hardcore "Game Cube" types huh? hahaha fucking losers |
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Date: January 29th, 2005 9:18 AM Author: Onyx half-breed yls dudes
1. what r ur thoughts on the new dean 2. the faculty chose you...you must be pretty eccentric heheheheh |
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Date: January 30th, 2005 2:47 PM Author: Hairraiser quadroon stead This is certainly a useful thread, as if I needed any convincing!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2028358) |
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Date: January 30th, 2005 3:18 PM Author: Blathering pearly casino chad Subject: "Soft" competition YLS people -- can you say more on the soft competition issue? Examples of what you mean? What effects does it have? A lot of the comments higher in the thread have been deleted, so maybe I missed the good stuff. More specifics would be really helpful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2028526) |
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Date: January 30th, 2005 9:11 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2031119) |
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Date: January 30th, 2005 9:22 PM Author: Blathering pearly casino chad Undercutting each other to potential employers? Seriously? How? Like, "so, I hear you're interviewing ____. He's not very smart"...or...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2031224) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 7:28 AM Author: Bossy wonderful friendly grandma associate "claiming they're barely doing any studying when they're studying a lot"
It seems like if you say you study a lot, you piss people off, and if you say you don't study a lot, you piss people off. Where's the middle ground?
" trying to undercut each other to potential employers"
That sucks! How do that do that? Any examples?
Thanks! |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 2:26 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2035249) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 10:15 PM Author: Blathering pearly casino chad That is insane. As for the rest of it, do you think the profs encourage people to monopolize class by rewarding that behavior? Or do they generally look down on it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2038605) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 3:37 PM Author: cordovan supple pit people who are hurt >politicking for elected positions (journal stuff and the like); claiming they're barely doing any studying when they're studying a lot; sucking up to profs (including by monopolizing class time)
My sister (YLS '99) saw plenty of these, but neither she nor I have ever heard of the others, especially the smack-talking around employers. I'm not in a position to say it never happens, but it definitely sounds weird. She was unhappy there and has no reason to sugar-coat any flaws. I'm skeptical that that's really a big enough problem at YLS to merit consideration when you're picking a school. |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 3:45 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2035759) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 4:04 PM Author: cordovan supple pit people who are hurt No, no -- the ones I quoted are the ones she saw lots of. Of course she knows about monopolization.
>All I am saying is that the idea that YLS is a happy-go-lucky school while HLS is hard-core and competitive is not quite accurate.
Oh, I agree. I just don't think anyone should avoid YLS because their classmates will sabotage them with employers. |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 4:22 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2036005) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 4:32 PM Author: cordovan supple pit people who are hurt >I just find it worrisome how many of us had a different picture of YLS coming in than after spending some time there.
This was my sister's experience -- she is a very hard core poverty law person (Skadden fellow), and she felt that as an applicant, she was led to believe that Yale was a kind of academia/public interest utopia. She ended up feeling that the atmosphere was as corporate-friendly as any other law school, and that the academia side of the culture had its head up its ass to such an extent that it had as little to do with on-the-ground public interest work as the corporate side did.
I think she would have been even unhappier at Harvard in many ways, but she wouldn't have been as disappointed, if that makes any sense (she didn't apply there). |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 4:46 PM Author: Dun set kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2036141) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 10:13 PM Author: Blathering pearly casino chad Is the career advising shaky for just corporate, or in general? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2038577) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 7:06 PM Author: claret useless incel state Does it help YLS students any that there is less competition for corporate jobs (just by sheer numbers, you're only competing against like 80 or 90 right?) compared to at HLS where you're competing against like 400? Or does that not matter at all, and all law students are competing against each other in some way.
Just having a hard time figuring out what the advantages and disadvantages of each school are... =) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 7:31 PM Author: Thriller area dingle berry OK, so this whole thread seems to be devoted to Yale vs. Harvard.
What about Yale vs. Stanford? If anything, that seems like a more interesting question, because the sizes and compositions of the two schools' student bodies seem to be a lot more alike than Y's and H's are.
For a future practitioner, who wants to practice in CA, AZ, TX or FL, what would be good reasons to choose Y over S, or vice versa? |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 7:36 PM Author: aphrodisiac rose sneaky criminal point you should create your own thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2037230) |
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Date: January 31st, 2005 7:41 PM Author: Thriller area dingle berry done http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=130709#2037245 |
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Date: March 12th, 2005 6:01 PM Author: Rusted Hateful Indirect Expression Subject: Job prospects for spouses in New Haven? I really appriciate the candor for the 1Ls posting here. While I'm fully expecting a ding from Yale and am 90% certain I'd prefer HLS anyway; if I can get to 100%, I can just send in my deposit already:)
I'll be dragging my new husband along with me, so I am concerned about the prospective job market - did anyone else bring a spouse, and if so, how was it for them? I am also concerned with the MBA programs in the area; he'll be applying for when I'm 1L - while Yale's is great, it's neither a reach nor a lock. (Boston offers 2 of each, but not the nice middle ground Yale does)
I had a dozen other questions & concerns, but you seem to have covered them quite nicely already. |
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Date: March 15th, 2005 11:20 AM Author: Indecent prole It depends entirely on what the spouse does. People definitely bring spouses to New Haven with them; spouses who are teachers nurses etc. can find work in the area no problem. Ditto spouses who are sort of slackers (like most universities, Yale offers administrative work options for intelligent slackers). If spouse is willing to commute, Connecticut has lots of corporate stuff and some financial services stuff going on (in Hartford, Norwalk, Stamford, Greenwich--maximum commutes about an hour from NH). And New York is close. A lot of people maintain "dual" households, or live in NY with a significant other and maintain only a pied-a-terre in NH. I haven't heard of it happening, but a spouse living in New Haven with you and commuting to New York on the train is not entirely unthinkable, though he would have to be a real good sport to deal with that, I'd imagine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2336083) |
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Date: March 12th, 2005 6:01 PM Author: Scarlet indian lodge YALE IS PWN3D. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2317437) |
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Date: March 12th, 2005 6:12 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Still a great thread. I wonder if any of the 1Ls have changed their minds since finals... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#2317519) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 5:56 PM Author: canary cerebral nursing home it's time to put YLS in perspective after this board's hype (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486623) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:18 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Having been at Yale almost a year now, I can say that some of this stuff is, indeed, true, while a lot of it is just people complaining about really small things. Notice that most of these posts were in December. December is just a bad time for everyone, even people at Yale. Ready for classes to be done, have a million things do, need to search for jobs, etc.
Even taking into consideration Yale's shortcomings, I still think there is no better way to study law. Take that for what you will. |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:21 PM Author: canary cerebral nursing home for corporate law, H or Y? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486807) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:23 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Just to work in BIGLAW? Y. Supply and demand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486831) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 1:34 PM Author: Sable legal warrant ditto. I tend to be very critical about the law school, but I recognize that these sorts of issues seem endemic to law schools generally. That particular class also seems to have disproportionally more toolish behavior... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5492628) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:40 PM Author: Sooty Chapel Mad Cow Disease thanks for the bump, this is a really interesting thread. do you know if there's one like this discussing harvard in further detail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486959) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:42 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=121148&mc=42&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486970) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:43 PM Author: Sooty Chapel Mad Cow Disease awesome, thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486974) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 6:45 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Not nearly as much "dirty laundry," but interesting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5486991) |
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Date: April 1st, 2006 7:04 PM Author: Sooty Chapel Mad Cow Disease i can't bump the damn thread! weird. i wish i could have read what's edited out in this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5487143) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 2:23 PM Author: hairless range roommate Thanks for bumping this. Is the portrait of YLS students here accurate, and will middle class average joes be overwhelmed by gunners, douchebags, and Rhodes Scholars? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5492908) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 2:36 PM Author: Sable legal warrant not really and no. Middle class average joes will not be overwhelmed by people like you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5492969) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 3:29 PM Author: hairless range roommate Do you go there? Why the hate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5493274) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:00 PM Author: Sable legal warrant actually there isn't any hate, but it strikes me after reading several of your posts that you yourself can be rather douchebaggy/gunnerific. I think you can use yourself as a fairly accurate measure for how these people behave. They can be annoying/obnoxious, but in the end they are generally likeable/have some redeeming qualities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5493587) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:21 PM Author: Pink parlour Why are you aggressive and confrontational for no reason? That guy has never done anything douchebaggish or gunnerific, whatever the fuck that means. Though douchebag is used so broadly that anything except chronic drinking and blowing off school is douchebaggish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5493815) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:49 PM Author: Sable legal warrant Thats my point. I like my classmates just like I generally like Port though they can be annoying at times. I found his question to be supercilious and yes douchebaggy/gunnerific. And it is the same type of behavior that he would probably be annoyed at...
I don't think I'm being agressive or confrontational, just responding to his question by turning the tables. See Michael Jackson's Man in the Mirror for details. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:50 PM Author: purple titillating milk rofl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494079) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 4:59 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner Lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494177) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:02 PM Author: Pink parlour It just seems a little ironic. He was supercilious for believing himself to be above the gunners and douchebags, and you responded by calling him both!
I've noticed that law students frequently claim that most, if not, all of their classmates are gunners or douchebags. Everyone apparently thinks they're an exception. In the "real world", however, people don't constantly judge others to be gunners and douchebags. There is judgment, sure, but not this constantly vicious judgment with its exacting standards. Law students and lawyers may want to take a cue from healthier segments of the population and just chill. It's no wonder they have so many health problems. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:07 PM Author: Sable legal warrant thats precisely the point, it is ironic.
as for the rest, you are spot on, which is why I found the question rather annoying, but again no harm no foul |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:11 PM Author: hairless range roommate Why would I ask the question if I in any way self-identified with non-middle class gunners or douchebags? Maybe I see myself in a different light than others, most of my friends at school never took me for the intellectual sort, and I expect to be on the poorer end of family incomes compared to most of the students at YLS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494784) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:00 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner You have an odd definition of "aggressive and confrontational." I perceived nothing of the sort. Just a response in kind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494180) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:03 PM Author: Pink parlour How was that in kind? The guy didn't comment about anyone specifically. The response, however, said "you are example of the annoying type of person at Yale." This is about as aggressive and confrontational as it gets. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494213) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:05 PM Author: purple titillating milk shut up please. This is why I suspect no one likes you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494234) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:24 PM Author: Pink parlour Hey, I'm not the one who goes around calling everyone a douche for blinking the wrong way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494403) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:56 PM Author: judgmental hilarious bawdyhouse yes you do, except you dress it up with morally condemnatory language. i can confirm that no one likes you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495142) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 5:11 PM Author: bright contagious brunch gunner "This is about as aggressive and confrontational as it gets."
Conduct a random sampling of the threads on this site and get back to me with your recantation. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:08 PM Author: hairless range roommate Shit, I didn't think this would provoke anything. I asked the question because I associate more with the middle class average joes who don't like talking about their schoolwork and would rather go drink a domestic beer and watch a game. I know a kid from my graduating class who's a 1L at YLS who fits the gunner douchebag profile to a T--when I told him I got in he was like "oh, you...did?" and was kinda awkward about it, since he was so used to defining his prestige as untouchable by his other friends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494772) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:31 PM Author: Pink parlour Dude, if you call people gunners and douchebags, you can expect to get the same, and deserve the same.
You might want to also think about the fact that you may become extremely outable, depending on what you end up doing. I doubt there are many YLS students also pursuing a PhD in econ at Stanford. Consider it friendly advice. I don't out people but you can believe lots of other posters would. |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:36 PM Author: hairless range roommate Good point. Other than engaging in the standard board repartee, I don't think I've really said anything particularly self-damaging. I wouldn't enjoy being outed, but I don't think it'd be catastrophic in any way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5494975) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:45 PM Author: Sable legal warrant bosterone (finally) hit the nail on the head. Port- no harm no foul. who is this 1L? |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:50 PM Author: hairless range roommate Thanks, if I meet you I'm sure we'll get along well, I was only repeating some of the characterizations made earlier on this thread. I repeated that because it applied to the guy I know, who could be accurately be described that way, and I started worrying because he's literally the only person I know who's gone there. I'd prefer not to say more about him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495089) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:02 PM Author: Sable legal warrant I'm sure we will get along. I think most people here are genuinely nice/down to earth. I won't lie; there are a few people who may have you shaking your head, but all in all it is a great community. Are you coming for admit weekend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495194) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:35 PM Author: hairless range roommate I'll be there for the admit weekend. In contrast to my board persona, I'm pretty laid back and get along with just about anyone, though I do tend to enjoy others who are less aggressive and competitive by nature. But it's law school, I should know what I'm getting into. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495447) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:48 PM Author: tan exhilarant mental disorder Ew ... domestic beer? What are you, middle-class? I only drink single-malt scotch. I hope our class isn't filled with commoners like you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495073) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:53 PM Author: hairless range roommate It took me a while to realize that the fewer malts, the better. I thought it was a bargain--more malts, lower price! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495111) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 6:57 PM Author: tan exhilarant mental disorder Scotch kind of makes me want to vomit. One of my friends, now a 2L at USC, is living on a tight budget after doing PI work 1L summer, but still drinks exclusively super-expensive single malt. Yeah, he's kind of a gunner type, but I like him just the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495152) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:04 PM Author: Sable legal warrant the funny thing is I pictured you as the port and sherry type (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495209) |
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Date: April 2nd, 2006 7:36 PM Author: hairless range roommate No. If I make money, I think it'd be a cool hobby to collect vintage scotches and wines that I could bust out whenever the mood hits me. Until then, anything that gets me drunk works just fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=117818&forum_id=2#5495453) |