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160k loans, 80k salary - help me figure this shit out

T14 grad, 160k loans, half public at 6.8 (@#$% staffords), h...
Darsint  02/08/10
Part time job at McDonald's?
Fry Station Master Man  02/08/10
shrewd but not very decadent
Darsint  02/08/10
Minimum wage is now $7.25 You could cut down on your food...
Fry Station Master Man  02/08/10
what was your lsat? if decent and you're in a big metro you...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  02/08/10
Also old dudes on craigslist will pay you $100 to suck YOUR ...
Fry Station Master Man  02/08/10
!! hallelujah i'm saved
Darsint  02/08/10
good, but i work full time dood. i guess i could tutor on we...
Darsint  02/08/10
i mean, obviously it would mean putting in a decent amount o...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  02/08/10
can't i just rob a bank or something? but thanks, this m...
Darsint  02/08/10
laid off? shitlaw? bottom of the class?
United Against a Nuclear Latham  02/08/10
door number 1 I was top 1/4 at graduation, had my pick of...
Darsint  02/08/10
go clerk ?????? profit
United Against a Nuclear Latham  02/08/10
now this is both shrewd and decadent. corporate though, not ...
Darsint  02/08/10
god damn this is depressing. where do you live? this j...
BPMey  02/08/10
You got to pay those cops $120k to keep those kids in harlem...
Fry Station Master Man  02/08/10
god damn i hate all gov employees.
BPMey  02/08/10
my mom's cousin is married to a NYC cop She works as a te...
Fry Station Master Man  02/08/10
CLEARLY.
BPMey  02/08/10
Are you handy with the steel if you know what I mean? I b...
Fry Station Master Man  02/08/10
THe student loan interest deduction is fucking pathetic huh?...
This is...the..Bakerloo Line...to...Charing Cross  02/08/10
not nearly as rich as i am brah
Darsint  02/08/10
admittedly i'm not in your situation but I feel for you just...
This is...the..Bakerloo Line...to...Charing Cross  02/08/10
i'll play a tiny violin for you :)
Darsint  02/08/10
with taxes at this rate, if i get laid off, i'm just going t...
BPMey  02/08/10
i saw that Argentina just nationalized their central bank an...
This is...the..Bakerloo Line...to...Charing Cross  02/08/10
how are you only taking home 60% of gross? nyc?
.........,.,...,,.,.,....  02/08/10
it's not 4k exactly, it's 4.4 or something like that
Darsint  02/08/10
why is that so crazy? NYS has like a 6.25% tax rate
Hercules Q. Einstein  02/08/10
just seems like a very large amount. i've seen my parents ta...
.........,.,...,,.,.,....  02/08/10
marriage and dependents and mortgage helps quite a bit.
BPMey  02/08/10
You've got about 1400 a month to play around with. Quit you'...
I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg  02/08/10
how much of that 1400 would you suggest saving? stocking ...
Darsint  02/08/10
maxing out my 401k always comes first for me. do it hard ...
Hercules Q. Einstein  02/08/10
i agree.
JaggedEdge  02/08/10
I would come up with a realistic budget meaning how much you...
I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg  02/08/10
- trans costs - food costs - misc. medical costs - ...
BPMey  02/08/10
40k is a decent living.
I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg  02/08/10
no it's not.
BPMey  02/08/10
i'm not going to starve or anything but I wouldn't call 40k ...
Darsint  02/08/10
40k is what every single one of us could have made without l...
Hercules Q. Einstein  02/08/10
Well if you made 40k you probably wouldn't have saved much o...
I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg  02/09/10
man, wtf. 4000. take away 1k for rent, etc. 800 for mi...
JaggedEdge  02/08/10
monthly loan payments are 2000.
BPMey  02/08/10
shift it around then. he should reduce his rent, get a room...
JaggedEdge  02/08/10
he is fucking more pauper than pauper and such.
BPMey  02/08/10
yeah reducing rent should be a priority i'm basically li...
Darsint  02/08/10
normally i'd say max out the 401k but if you're overleverage...
JaggedEdge  02/08/10
good point. i guess it's not worth waiting out to see if 'ba...
Darsint  02/08/10
you'll have plenty to forgive even if he does.
JaggedEdge  02/08/10
"monthly loan payments are 2000." There's some ...
Cat with good posture  02/09/10
wait, what school did you go to? you might be eligible for B...
ghost ryder  02/08/10
lower half of T14. what is BSF?
Darsint  02/08/10
u fukt. rofl.
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/08/10
So you save about 25% of take home which is about 1k-$1,400 ...
Sten  02/08/10
Hint: after just taxes, small amt of health insurance costs ...
Mr. Magic  02/08/10
yeah but how's the lifestyle in BIGPIZZA?
Darsint  02/08/10
lots of 17 yr old girls + 40 hrs/week?
Mr. Magic  02/08/10
fuck, i knew i went the wrong route
Darsint  02/09/10
Um, go into extended repayment - 30 yrs instead of 10. Sh...
Great Education Director Onizuka  02/08/10
I second the poster above. If dood has 25% or more disposabl...
Chorizo  02/08/10
interesting - most responses seem to be in one of two camps ...
Darsint  02/09/10
tbf, $1k/mth in "savings" is like half of the &quo...
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
i really need to start dealing me some crack
Darsint  02/09/10
don't you know? these are the only two responses xo'ers are...
A man buying a bracelet at Walmart  02/09/10
one group is employed. the other is more ite pwned.
BPMey  02/09/10
decent
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
how does "ur fukt" imply that one is unemployed? ...
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
i'm saying the ppl saying he's fucked are employed and the p...
BPMey  02/09/10
oh ok. i thought the opposite for some reason. probably be...
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
i'm employed and say he should stfu. it's not an impossible...
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
anybody who says he should stfu up can't count.
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
it's better than being unemployed with 160k debt. and t...
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
$0 is 0 but he can at least defer his loans while unemployed...
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
lol at deferring loans. those loans will only come back wit...
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
Meh... I think I'd rather be unemployed and working some dea...
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
you can always find somebody worse off than you. and somebo...
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
this is a fucking tarded comment.
BPMey  02/09/10
this statement is odd, coming from you.
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
stupid comments like you can't count if you have 0 is pure r...
BPMey  02/09/10
what you wrote makes 0 fucking sense.
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
I agree with you here dooder. Being able to service debt, pa...
Chorizo  02/09/10
yeah sock away 25% after housing etc? lol not
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
lol yes... STFU after graduating from a top UG, graduating f...
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
pissed is one thing - i've (almost) come to terms with that....
Darsint  02/09/10
it could be way way way worse.
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
Yeah... but the entire exercise was an exercise in futility....
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
yikes, dont get me started with ranting. HS/college buddies ...
Darsint  02/09/10
It could but op just seems to be trying to figure it out. no...
stoic-ed, actually  02/09/10
2k/mo on 160k? is that all 10 yr repayment or something? i...
,.,.,.,.....,,....,......  02/09/10
Yeah because they just hand these reschedulings out like can...
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
for federal loans it's as easy as clicking a link.
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
tbf, he will triple/quadruple the amt he pays over the life ...
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
i'm so pissed off at that locked in 6.8 BULLSHIT
Darsint  02/09/10
he can always make double or triple payments once he's makin...
,.,.,.,.....,,....,......  02/09/10
"if he ever makes more money"
Mr. Magic  02/09/10
my feds are already all 30 year - let me double check
Darsint  02/09/10
so digging deeper, looks like i might qualify for IBR - anyo...
Darsint  02/09/10
First, do you have federal loans? or just private? federal...
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
yes, approx 70-80k federal i used the calculator just no...
Darsint  02/09/10
best thing to do is call DOE, explain your situation and let...
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
thanks dude. appreciate the level head
Darsint  02/09/10
i would kill myself, for the record. not *killself*, but li...
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
still mulling that option dooder
Darsint  02/09/10
if your connection to family isn't that strong, you could ju...
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
what's your situation dude? biglaw?
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
T14 3L with no offer (per my name). got a finance gig payin...
,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,  02/09/10
no problem man. sorry abuot the layoff dude. but be gla...
JaggedEdge  02/09/10
DOE= Dept of Education? Pardon my incompetence, but how coul...
stoic-ed, actually  02/09/10
Just move back in with your parents.
.,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,,,..,.,.,.  02/09/10
per http://www.ibrinfo.org/calculator.php single 160k lo...
.,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,  02/09/10
not all 160k is eligible for IBR - that's federal only. i ha...
Darsint  02/09/10


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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:59 PM
Author: Darsint

T14 grad, 160k loans, half public at 6.8 (@#$% staffords), half private at anywhere from 5-7%

Making 80k a year - take home is about $4,000/month.

Monthly loan payments are around $2,000. Yeah you read that right. Not eligible for IBR (right on the cusp), not doing govt work so no loan forgiveness. Rent/food/utils etc. about $1,000.

Kill self?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060477)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:00 PM
Author: Fry Station Master Man (I troll for proles)

Part time job at McDonald's?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060478)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:02 PM
Author: Darsint

shrewd but not very decadent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060508)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:03 PM
Author: Fry Station Master Man (I troll for proles)

Minimum wage is now $7.25

You could cut down on your food bills too.

Also, when was the last time you got a blowjob from a 17 year old? ITE, we are getting some hot high school girls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060527)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham (Nuclear Latham)

what was your lsat? if decent and you're in a big metro you can pick up some decent cash ($50-100/hr) tutoring college kids, especially if they know your school is preftige

i did this for a while in law school 2L/3L

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060550)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:06 PM
Author: Fry Station Master Man (I troll for proles)

Also old dudes on craigslist will pay you $100 to suck YOUR dick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060570)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:07 PM
Author: Darsint

!! hallelujah i'm saved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060578)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:06 PM
Author: Darsint

good, but i work full time dood. i guess i could tutor on weekends? is this a legitimate strategy? but i'm fucking exhausted by then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060576)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:11 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham (Nuclear Latham)

i mean, obviously it would mean putting in a decent amount of hours, but 5 hrs a week at $50/hr cuts your loan payments in half, essentially (ahem..some of the money i made this way might not have made it onto my tax return..ahem..not legal advice)

it's a legitimate strategy if you're willing to work at it and hustle a little. i mean i know you didn't graduate top 25% at a good school to find yourself teaching the lsat, but what else are you going to do to boost your income until the economy turns around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060618)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:17 PM
Author: Darsint

can't i just rob a bank or something?

but thanks, this might be worth considering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060678)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:00 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham (Nuclear Latham)

laid off?

shitlaw?

bottom of the class?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060480)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:01 PM
Author: Darsint

door number 1

I was top 1/4 at graduation, had my pick of firms. chose wrongly. FML

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060496)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:02 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham (Nuclear Latham)

go clerk

??????

profit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060504)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:04 PM
Author: Darsint

now this is both shrewd and decadent. corporate though, not much chance of getting a solid clerkship given all the resumes out there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060538)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:00 PM
Author: BPMey

god damn this is depressing.

where do you live?

this just reminds me that i hate taxes.

so if i make 20k more, my take home per year only goes up by 12k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060483)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:01 PM
Author: Fry Station Master Man (I troll for proles)

You got to pay those cops $120k to keep those kids in harlem from slingin' weed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060500)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:03 PM
Author: BPMey

god damn i hate all gov employees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060524)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: Fry Station Master Man (I troll for proles)

my mom's cousin is married to a NYC cop

She works as a teachers aid and they own a McMansion in NJ with Viking stoves...

You're doing it wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060549)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:06 PM
Author: BPMey

CLEARLY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060571)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:07 PM
Author: Fry Station Master Man (I troll for proles)

Are you handy with the steel if you know what I mean?

I bet Azn female are URM in the police department

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060584)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:03 PM
Author: This is...the..Bakerloo Line...to...Charing Cross

THe student loan interest deduction is fucking pathetic huh? Apparently I'm 'rich.'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060528)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:04 PM
Author: Darsint

not nearly as rich as i am brah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060532)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: This is...the..Bakerloo Line...to...Charing Cross

admittedly i'm not in your situation but I feel for you just the same. there's so much shit i want, which is the whole reason i fucking went to LS, and i find myself about to cut a massive check to my consolidator just to get shit paid early and pay $7 to the IRS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060561)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:10 PM
Author: Darsint

i'll play a tiny violin for you

:)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060613)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:04 PM
Author: BPMey

with taxes at this rate, if i get laid off, i'm just going to collect my 1k+ per month and save up and then move overseas. wtf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060539)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:07 PM
Author: This is...the..Bakerloo Line...to...Charing Cross

i saw that Argentina just nationalized their central bank and the Nikkei is off 51.

my only consolation in all of this is that we are all fucking going down together.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060588)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:05 PM
Author: .........,.,...,,.,.,....

how are you only taking home 60% of gross? nyc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060552)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:07 PM
Author: Darsint

it's not 4k exactly, it's 4.4 or something like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060591)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:29 PM
Author: Hercules Q. Einstein (practicing lawguy)

why is that so crazy? NYS has like a 6.25% tax rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060804)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:48 PM
Author: .........,.,...,,.,.,....

just seems like a very large amount. i've seen my parents tax returns before and they paid maybe 30-35% in tax on $300k+ income. 40% on $80k income seems insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061067)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:59 PM
Author: BPMey

marriage and dependents and mortgage helps quite a bit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061204)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:23 PM
Author: I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg

You've got about 1400 a month to play around with. Quit you're bitching?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060753)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:25 PM
Author: Darsint

how much of that 1400 would you suggest saving?

stocking up my 401k = no mo money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060768)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:30 PM
Author: Hercules Q. Einstein (practicing lawguy)

maxing out my 401k always comes first for me.

do it hard now and let compound interest work its magic for 40 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060814)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:33 PM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

i agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060853)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:31 PM
Author: I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg

I would come up with a realistic budget meaning how much you'd spend on "semi-necessities." Personally, I know I'm going to spend a certain amount going to the movies each month, going out, maybe on video games --whatever (a few beers a week in the budget but table service is a luxury).

I would save 90% of the money that isn't within that budget. The rest you can spend on nice electronics, furniture, clothes, whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060836)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:30 PM
Author: BPMey

- trans costs

- food costs

- misc. medical costs

- utilities

given loans, he's like making the equivalent of 40k.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060823)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:33 PM
Author: I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg

40k is a decent living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060864)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:34 PM
Author: BPMey

no it's not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060874)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:39 PM
Author: Darsint

i'm not going to starve or anything but I wouldn't call 40k a real living

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060930)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:40 PM
Author: Hercules Q. Einstein (practicing lawguy)

40k is what every single one of us could have made without law school, without three years of our life not making a cent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060947)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: I am reality! Feat. Nate Dogg

Well if you made 40k you probably wouldn't have saved much of the money anyway--and the COL for those three years is included in the loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061212)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:31 PM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

man, wtf.

4000. take away 1k for rent, etc. 800 for misc. shit, eating out. that leaves 2200. put 1500 down on loans. save around 700. once you hit 6 months of savings, plow that 7 into loans.

totally doable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060833)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:33 PM
Author: BPMey

monthly loan payments are 2000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060851)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:35 PM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

shift it around then. he should reduce his rent, get a roomie. reduce misc. spending.

he's in a decent position

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060877)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:36 PM
Author: BPMey

he is fucking more pauper than pauper and such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060900)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:40 PM
Author: Darsint

yeah reducing rent should be a priority

i'm basically living paycheck to paycheck if I max out my 401k - trying to decide if it's worthwhile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060944)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:41 PM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

normally i'd say max out the 401k but if you're overleveraged, and you are, hit those loans with all you've got.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060970)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:47 PM
Author: Darsint

good point. i guess it's not worth waiting out to see if 'bama passes student loan forgiveness :P

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061045)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:48 PM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

you'll have plenty to forgive even if he does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061053)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:10 AM
Author: Cat with good posture

"monthly loan payments are 2000."

There's some huge bullshit going on here. Apparently this super genius never thought of getting off the 10 year plan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062306)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:34 PM
Author: ghost ryder (dancer&human)

wait, what school did you go to? you might be eligible for BSF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060870)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:40 PM
Author: Darsint

lower half of T14. what is BSF?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14060952)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:52 PM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

u fukt. rofl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061106)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:53 PM
Author: Sten

So you save about 25% of take home which is about 1k-$1,400 and this just isn't enough? I mean you won't be driving a BMW (you could if you don't mind saving basically nothing) but come on man. You are way ahead of the curve with that level of savings. Especially over doods STILL unemployed and 2k/month in loans. So please STFU and stop whining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061121)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:53 PM
Author: Mr. Magic

Hint: after just taxes, small amt of health insurance costs per month + minimum loan payments (for a 30 yr payoff) you will take home about $1900/mth... or about what your assistant manager at pizza hut does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061125)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:57 PM
Author: Darsint

yeah but how's the lifestyle in BIGPIZZA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061171)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:59 PM
Author: Mr. Magic

lots of 17 yr old girls + 40 hrs/week?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061205)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: Darsint

fuck, i knew i went the wrong route

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061223)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:55 PM
Author: Great Education Director Onizuka

Um, go into extended repayment - 30 yrs instead of 10.

Shit sucks, but because you are a poor, you should do it. It will cut your payments by 40% probably.

Hopefully later you will be able to get a real job and pay down those loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061143)



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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:57 PM
Author: Chorizo

I second the poster above. If dood has 25% or more disposable income then I don't see the reason for the whining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061173)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: Darsint

interesting - most responses seem to be in one of two camps

"YOUR FUCKED" - kill self, went to law school/JD to make what a fast food manager makes, etc.

"STFU" - doing fine, can save/spend $1k a month, better off than a lot of people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061211)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:01 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

tbf, $1k/mth in "savings" is like half of the "unlocked" money you would have per mth if you were some random MRI Tech with a community college degree.

It'd be pretty easy to have about $2500 in disposable income/mth as a young, single community college grad in the medical field.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061236)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:03 AM
Author: Darsint

i really need to start dealing me some crack

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061271)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 10:52 AM
Author: A man buying a bracelet at Walmart (le courageux petit poaster à la rescousse)

don't you know? these are the only two responses xo'ers are able to give regarding financial advice q's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14064556)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:02 AM
Author: BPMey

one group is employed. the other is more ite pwned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061247)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:05 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

decent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061286)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:07 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

how does "ur fukt" imply that one is unemployed? to me making $80k/yr (which I will be in a few months) = massive ITE pwned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061314)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:08 AM
Author: BPMey

i'm saying the ppl saying he's fucked are employed and the ppl saying he should stfu are unemployed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061336)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:10 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

oh ok. i thought the opposite for some reason. probably because im stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061363)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:11 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

i'm employed and say he should stfu. it's not an impossible position to be in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061375)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:13 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

anybody who says he should stfu up can't count.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061402)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:15 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

it's better than being unemployed with 160k debt.

and truth is, you don't really need to count when you're unemployed. 0 is 0.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061423)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:16 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

$0 is 0 but he can at least defer his loans while unemployed and still collect unemployment (if he was employed in the first place)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061441)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:18 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

lol at deferring loans. those loans will only come back with interest tacked on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061464)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:19 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

Meh... I think I'd rather be unemployed and working some dead end job under the table.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061483)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:16 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

you can always find somebody worse off than you. and somebody better off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061444)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:17 AM
Author: BPMey

this is a fucking tarded comment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061449)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:18 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

this statement is odd, coming from you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061474)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:22 AM
Author: BPMey

stupid comments like you can't count if you have 0 is pure rhetoric and has 0 substance.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061541)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:39 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

what you wrote makes 0 fucking sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061765)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:17 AM
Author: Chorizo

I agree with you here dooder. Being able to service debt, pay bills and still sock away 25% of your take home pay is definitely not a position from which to be whining. Yes, he could be earning more, but he could be in a MUCH worse position than others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061452)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:18 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

yeah sock away 25% after housing etc? lol not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061471)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:14 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

lol yes... STFU after graduating from a top UG, graduating from a top LS and barely making more than a burger junkie at a fast food restaurant paying MINIMUMS on your loans

Yeah... no reason to be pissed about that at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061409)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:16 AM
Author: Darsint

pissed is one thing - i've (almost) come to terms with that. wasted energy at this point

i'm honeslty just trying to figure out how to optimize given my unfortunate situation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061425)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:16 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

it could be way way way worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061433)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:18 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

Yeah... but the entire exercise was an exercise in futility... what the OP has now discovered is that no matter how smart you are or how much you work at school... it's a dead end in 99.9% of the places and you wind up the same place you started (making what you did in HS as supervisor of walmart)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061462)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:23 AM
Author: Darsint

yikes, dont get me started with ranting. HS/college buddies etc are starting to make the big bucks, buy houses, shit like that. I, on the other hand, due to a bad beat (chose the wrong firm), am trying to figure out how many roommates I'll need in order to survive.

the only silver lining through all this is that i'm in it for the long term - my career earnings potential will hopefully be solid based on the exp and shit i'm doing now. only thing keepin me sane...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061546)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:20 AM
Author: stoic-ed, actually

It could but op just seems to be trying to figure it out. no harm done, peeps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061494)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:18 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.....,,....,......

2k/mo on 160k? is that all 10 yr repayment or something? if u want some extra cash just spread it out o a 30 yr repayment until you are making more

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061473)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:20 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

Yeah because they just hand these reschedulings out like candy now adays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061493)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:22 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

for federal loans it's as easy as clicking a link.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061528)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:23 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

tbf, he will triple/quadruple the amt he pays over the life of the loan (nearly $600k)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061558)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:38 AM
Author: Darsint

i'm so pissed off at that locked in 6.8 BULLSHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061758)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:15 AM
Author: ,.,.,.,.....,,....,......

he can always make double or triple payments once he's making more money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062369)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:16 AM
Author: Mr. Magic

"if he ever makes more money"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062373)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:23 AM
Author: Darsint

my feds are already all 30 year - let me double check

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061554)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:44 AM
Author: Darsint

so digging deeper, looks like i might qualify for IBR - anyone have any experience with this? my fed loans are scattered among 3 different lenders, how does it work with multiple lenders?

i could potentially lower monthly payments to 1500-1700, seems like a huge amount in my situation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061848)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:46 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

First, do you have federal loans? or just private? federal is covered by IBR, privates are not.

google "ibr" calculator. use one of the calculators, plug in your numbers and it'll tell you if you qualify



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061887)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:48 AM
Author: Darsint

yes, approx 70-80k federal

i used the calculator just now and it said i possibly qualify when I combined all my fed loans together - across 3 different lenders (1. staffords, 2. consolidated staffords, 3. perkins)

have you done this? how do you get the multiple lenders to work together?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061935)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:50 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

best thing to do is call DOE, explain your situation and let them help you.

if they're federally backed, you're good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061976)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:51 AM
Author: Darsint

thanks dude. appreciate the level head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14061988)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:54 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

i would kill myself, for the record. not *killself*, but literally kill myself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062043)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:55 AM
Author: Darsint

still mulling that option dooder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062057)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:02 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

if your connection to family isn't that strong, you could just flee the country too. also, if you think you can get away with it, you could fake your own death, but then you lose your degrees and you're back to pizza hut manager.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062185)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:57 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

what's your situation dude? biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062114)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:03 AM
Author: ,,,.,.......,.......,.,,,.,,..,..,,,......,,,

T14 3L with no offer (per my name). got a finance gig paying $80k, not too much upside :(. fucked. but only ~$30k in debt. doubt i'll be taking the bar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062203)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 12:57 AM
Author: JaggedEdge (JaggedEdge)

no problem man.

sorry abuot the layoff dude. but be glad you have work. just work hard and move up, make more dough and you'll be good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062100)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:18 AM
Author: stoic-ed, actually

DOE= Dept of Education? Pardon my incompetence, but how could they help? for e.g?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062398)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:31 AM
Author: .,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,,,,..,.,.,.

Just move back in with your parents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14062591)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 3:20 AM
Author: .,,.,.,.,,,,,.......,.,,

per http://www.ibrinfo.org/calculator.php

single

160k loans

80k salary

8.5% interest (grad plus)

amounts to 800/mo in loan payments

what am i missing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14063578)



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Date: February 9th, 2010 1:07 PM
Author: Darsint

not all 160k is eligible for IBR - that's federal only. i have something like 75k federal loans, rest are private (and on a 10 year repayment plan that can't be changed)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1216915&forum_id=2#14065433)