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Date: March 7th, 2012 8:55 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I've done all core practice areas in the JAGC, so I'll be happy to answer questions and compare and contrast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152703) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 8:57 PM Author: Fragrant Geriatric Home Cumskin Have you handled any shitty domestic relations stuff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152722) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:01 PM Author: awkward lake set jap If you're talking about domestic disputes, yes, both as a prosecutor and as a legal assistance attorney.
If you're talking about same sex marriage, I've given training on the topic but I've never had to address an issue. |
Date: March 7th, 2012 8:59 PM Author: Unholy Green Regret Cruise Ship what are the "core practices" and how long have you spent in each one so far? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152735) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:03 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I would say that they are legal assistance, military justice and administrative law. I guess you could call op law a core competency, but I don't think many captains get meaningful experience in this area even if they're assigned to it. It's probably a lot more of an issue underway on a ship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152753) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:04 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse thoughts on this?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings
why does the convening authority have some power? |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:08 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I get asked about this every time I post. I don't know anything about the Haditha incident other than what I've read in the news.
I don't understand your second question. Because the President and Congress have said so? |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:09 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse Cool flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152799) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:05 PM Author: Unholy Green Regret Cruise Ship how long have you spent on each? do you have a specific track you're following (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152767) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:09 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I don't want to answer the first for privacy purposes. The Army doesn't have tracks like the Navy does. I would ultimately like to be a military judge but that's a long way off and there is no one path to get there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152808) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:13 PM Author: Unholy Green Regret Cruise Ship no worries, I don't want you to talk about outtable info.
How is the command structure? Is it mostly JAGs reporting to JAGs? Are deployments pretty common for your community? |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:24 PM Author: awkward lake set jap When the Army moved to the BCT model post-9/11, an O4 "Brigade Judge Advocate" position was created. He essentially works for the bde cdr, but he will still have a JAG in his rating chain (normally the SJA or DSJA). The trial counsel for each bde, in some cases, also got pushed down to the bde level, rather than working in a division office. So if you are a TC who works primarily out of the bde or a BJA, you will spend a lot of time answering to non-JAGs. Everyone else, except for O5+ is answering to other JAGs.
Deployments were very common up until about a year ago. |
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Date: April 26th, 2017 1:15 PM Author: Ultramarine yapping lay newt Fellow veteran here bud, but no civilian is going to have the first clue what all that means. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#33167259) |
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Date: April 26th, 2017 1:20 PM Author: ocher fortuitous meteor shrine Ur gonna want to check the freshness date on this poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#33167291) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:04 PM Author: razzmatazz stead thoughts on competitiveness for jag reserve? do you know if it is a bump for fed govt hiring? tyia breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152760) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: awkward lake set jap It's not very competitive and the National Guard is even less so. I think you get a five point hiring boost after you are "veteran" which I think means 180 days on active duty. So you'll have to get mobilized. I'm sure there's also a non-numerical boost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152829) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:14 PM Author: razzmatazz stead ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152849) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 11:41 PM Author: heady pervert telephone related q - if having a hard time getting into jag is going jag reserve to active credited? or is that not even a path. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20877801) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 11:44 PM Author: Misanthropic Glassy Deer Antler not really possible. you have to be in the reserves for 4 years before you can apply for active duty. didn't used to be like that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20877836) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:27 PM Author: awkward lake set jap It used to be easy. I would say now it's very difficult. And as mentioned, you have to wait four years. So if reserve is better than nothing, go for it. If you just want to backdoor your way onto active duty, prepare for a long ordeal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20883519) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 8:12 PM Author: Disrespectful Macaca Plaza Can you do Jag reserve if you're a fed gov't attorney? How much of a time commitment is it? Odds of getting deployed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20882568) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:29 PM Author: awkward lake set jap Yes. Being a federal or state employee is the best deal for reservists, because these employers are very accommodating to reservists.
It's one weekend per month and two weeks per year.
Even if you raise your hand and jump up and down, you probably won't get deployed. That could change quickly if there is another war. |
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Date: June 18th, 2012 8:41 PM Author: Disrespectful Macaca Plaza Thanks. Is it hard to get a reserve gig? What's the pay like? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20911839) |
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Date: June 18th, 2012 10:45 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle roommate lodge look up reserve drill pay for O-2s. not that hard bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20912763) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:05 PM Author: Diverse silver persian Some days I actually miss the military. Other days, not so much. I always miss my boyz though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152768) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:06 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse why do you not miss it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152774) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:10 PM Author: Diverse silver persian Some superior officers can be pricks, you don't control your life (you can be deployed at any time) and everything during duty hours is really serious - very little joking around.
I do miss breakfast in the mess halls though brother. |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:11 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse Is there a good deal of internal politics involved? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152823) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: Diverse silver persian Depends on your unit, but yes. I wasn't JAG by the way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152833) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:15 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse Do JAG's do alot of office sitting? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152859) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:13 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I have tremendous control over my life. Both my personal life and work life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152837) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:17 PM Author: Diverse silver persian In BIG LAW, you can always quit. Try to resign your commission in a time of war. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152869) |
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Date: March 7th, 2012 9:26 PM Author: awkward lake set jap Yeah, there are obviously tradeoffs. I'm just telling you how I feel. You sound like you were enlisted. You should certainly know that officers have a lot more control over their lives than enlisted Soldiers, and that JAs have a lot more control over their lives than line officers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20152941) |
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Date: March 10th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: abusive hell i'm probably going to jaobc in october. how does that work with the holiday season? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20173513) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:21 PM Author: awkward lake set jap You'll probably get a four day pass for Christmas and for New Years. There aren't many holidays that the Army doesn't recognize. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177073) |
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Date: March 14th, 2012 2:31 PM Author: tripping native You can take two four day passes or leave. If you take the passes, you will have to be in Charlottesville for three duty days inbetween. If you take leave for the duration, you stop collecting per diem, which is about $600. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20204275) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 10:59 AM Author: vigorous chocolate ticket booth trust fund What does it feel like not to be a line officer? Do you ever feel like you're not a real soldier? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20174840) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:26 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I like being an attorney in the Army and I would never trade with your average line officer. I do sometimes feel like I'm not a real Soldier, but then I look at what other staff officers do and they're even bigger paper pushers than the attorneys. So I don't worry too much about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177102) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:22 PM Author: indigo juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177075) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:26 PM Author: indigo juggernaut you're active duty, but have you heard anything about how difficult/easy it is to stay a reservist for 20 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177103) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:29 PM Author: awkward lake set jap Easy. Keep in mind you don't get an immediate pension after 20 in the reserves though. It kicks in at 60. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177125) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:32 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse what u think the punishment will be for the servicemen who shot 16 innocent civilians in Afghanistan today? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177148) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:35 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I'm not sure. What do you think? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177170) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:52 PM Author: excitant bawdyhouse He should get capital punishment. Is there such a thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177266) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:44 PM Author: awkward lake set jap There is. The Fort Hood shooter could get the death penalty if convicted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177731) |
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Date: March 12th, 2012 10:26 AM Author: vigorous chocolate ticket booth trust fund echo $@ | sed 's/could/should/' | sed 's/if/when/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20181247) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:37 PM Author: indigo juggernaut right, still sounds like a pretty sweet deal. thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177175) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:45 PM Author: awkward lake set jap It is. Especially if you have a government job, military reserve is super sweet. If I don't go career, I'll definitely stay in the reserves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177736) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:00 PM Author: abusive hell ofs, that's what i'm doing (civilian gov job + reserves). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177855) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 6:51 PM Author: Opaque rebellious place of business Why did you pick Army over Navy/USMC/USAF? Would you say that, on average, USMC JAG are the most hardcore? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177261) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:49 PM Author: awkward lake set jap Hardcore in what way? Physically and basic Soldiering skills, definitely. Best attorneys, not really. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177759) |
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Date: March 12th, 2012 10:28 AM Author: vigorous chocolate ticket booth trust fund Are you interested in being a USMC JA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20181255) |
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Date: March 15th, 2012 11:14 PM Author: Opaque rebellious place of business It's crossed my mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20217420) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 9:36 PM Author: vigorous chocolate ticket booth trust fund I'm a Marine JA. I humped the SAW for 60 clicks this past week. And got to use it on the live fire range. It was fuckin baller. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20883148) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:02 PM Author: Charismatic azn sanctuary At what point can you still walk away or go to another branch of service after getting picked by a board? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177361) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:50 PM Author: awkward lake set jap When I went through you didn't take the oath until Charlottesville. So that was at least two weeks into JAOBC. Anytime before that, you can leave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177771) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:58 PM Author: motley athletic conference If you got into the Army but wanted Navy, you can bail until that day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177841) |
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Date: March 12th, 2012 3:40 PM Author: Charismatic azn sanctuary So you can straight up walk away until you swear in, basically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20183162) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 7:59 PM Author: Exhilarant cyan giraffe state Any insight on whether they are doing only one board again next year? I didn't get picked up after interning, and I graduate in June. This is still my dream job though, and right now I'm on the fence between giving up on it or taking a gamble on the next board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177847) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:01 PM Author: abusive hell i got dinged twice by the AD board, but got picked up by the reserve board on my first try. don't overlook the reserves bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177873) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:02 PM Author: bearded feces http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=iUiTQvT0W_0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177879) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:02 PM Author: abusive hell link doesnt work
edit: now it does. idgi. |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:06 PM Author: bearded feces http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=iUiTQvT0W_0 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177920) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:06 PM Author: Exhilarant cyan giraffe state My problem with the Reserves is that I have about a month to decide whether I want to gamble on the board or sign a 3 year big-state-gov contract. I don't think the state would look fondly upon me scuttling off to Charlottesville in February for a few months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177918) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:12 PM Author: abusive hell well, it'd probably be at least a year until you could go to jaobc and your state probably has a military leave program for state employees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20177978) |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 8:13 PM Author: motley athletic conference Do not go Reserves if you want Active.
I don't think anyone knows whether it's one board or two next year. |
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Date: March 11th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: awkward lake set jap This is true about the reserves. Those days are over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20178949) |
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Date: March 12th, 2012 11:34 PM Author: Startled Brethren University (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20190469) |
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Date: March 15th, 2012 9:01 PM Author: slap-happy effete pit how is BAH calculated during jaobc? i'm a reservist if that makes a difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20216562) |
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Date: March 16th, 2012 12:47 AM Author: awkward lake set jap If you own or lease a home or you have a wife, you will get get BAH based on your home of record. Otherwise, you will not get BAH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20219422) |
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Date: March 19th, 2012 11:12 PM Author: Startled Brethren University (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20246451) |
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Date: March 15th, 2012 10:46 PM Author: bright hairraiser dysfunction indirect expression I fucking hate FLIPLs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20217262) |
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Date: March 16th, 2012 12:51 AM Author: awkward lake set jap They're boring but it's actually fairly interesting how the meaning of proximate cause varies so much depending on who is doing/reviewing the FLIPL. I think it's a ripe area for regulatory clarification. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20219440) |
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Date: March 16th, 2012 3:07 AM Author: Godawful haunting stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20220174) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 11:29 PM Author: Misanthropic Glassy Deer Antler tell me about distinguished/honor grads at jaobc. meaningless? sounds fancy on resume for civilian jerbs for us reserve/guard bros. worth caring about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20877687) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:13 PM Author: awkward lake set jap Meaningless for JAG career. I have no idea how civilian employers feel about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20883406) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 11:38 PM Author: Filthy foreskin nursing home Active Jag
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Reserves/National Guard JAG
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:14 PM Author: awkward lake set jap One is a full time job. One isn't. Is this a serious question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20883408) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: Filthy foreskin nursing home Thanks for the specificity, asshole.
Do you feel better about yourself by giving shithead replies like that? |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:04 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I'm sorry, but you can ask a more specific question. Obviously the differences are numerous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20900012) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 10:46 AM Author: Filthy foreskin nursing home Whatever makes you feel better, asshole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20902711) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:08 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle roommate lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20879162) |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 9:59 PM Author: Startling vivacious mad cow disease I got dinged last fall, planning on applying again this year. Please tell me how to make my application stand out. What should I put in my essay? What the credited strategy for LORs?
FWIW - Female, T6, currently second year BIGLAW |
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:25 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I assume you have some sincere reason for wanting to join the military, beyond getting out of BIGLAW hell. Just write about that sincerely. The other thing you need to do is win over your FSO. That's becoming more important as things get more competitive. Look the part, meaning conservative makeup, tie your hair up, get fit if you're not already. And be able to speak intelligently about what JAs do. Lastly, be positive about things that turn some people off: doing PT, moving every few years, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20883495) |
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Date: June 16th, 2012 9:09 PM Author: cerebral dull kitty wtf is the point you make how much doing what (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20900053) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 11:05 AM Author: aquamarine hissy fit parlour how accommodating is the military when you are in reserves regarding which weekend/two weeks you work?
do you know any assistant state attorneys who do reserves? |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 7:41 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I've never been in the reserves, but from what I've seen the weekends are fixed. The two weeks can be satisfied any number of ways...e.g. go to Charlottesville for two weeks for a course, mobilize to Germany for two weeks and do some BS work, etc.
Yes. |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 11:08 AM Author: Opaque rebellious place of business Does blowing it out of the water at a T6 + a 2/9/DC clerkship help my chances at USMC JAG? Or is it basically an ABA accredited JD + my PFT score? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20902787) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 7:42 PM Author: awkward lake set jap I don't know anything about USMC recruiting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20905427) |
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Date: June 17th, 2012 9:47 PM Author: vigorous chocolate ticket booth trust fund It helps, but only marginally. I was considered "the top" law contract when I got selected. The board was certainly impressed by my school, but I also had the best PFT and a recommendation from a colonel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#20906362) |
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Date: April 26th, 2017 12:59 PM Author: up-to-no-good exciting public bath degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#33167123) |
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Date: April 26th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: Naked Institution Idea He Suggested thank you for your service! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#33167261) |
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Date: April 26th, 2017 3:27 PM Author: Fantasy-prone Electric Furnace Office Most of the JAGOFFs I interacted with in the army were terrible. A minority were decent. But the JAGOFFs were at least better than the soviet-level ordinary officers assigned to do 15-6 investigations. I got out as an O3 after two commands. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1892701&forum_id=2#33168428) |