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Date: March 29th, 2012 8:36 AM Author: slim_shady_man
The last issue before the court was the law’s expansion of Medicaid, which will be financed mostly by federal funds. The challengers contend the expansion coerces them to cover more poor people and that the penalty for refusing to do so would be a cutoff of federal money.
This is a bizarre view that treats Medicaid, a voluntary federal-state partnership, as an affront to state sovereignty. There is no legitimate constitutional question on this issue. It is disturbing that the conservative justices seriously entertained the opponents’ argument
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20332768) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 8:40 AM Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,..,..,..,.,..,..,.,.,
which will be financed mostly by federal funds
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20332777) |

Date: March 29th, 2012 9:39 AM Author: Fight the Oligarh! (mostly ret.) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_lgTIZ22jE)
Kagan, who's entire career involves sucking up to powerful institutions, asked, "Why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of coercion?"
Was she being sincere or naive?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20332901) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 1:27 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retired)
To be fair,
This. This is precisely why, on average, the "intellectual" (read: intelligent, educated) conservatives that I know tend to be substantially better at articulating exactly why they hold conservative views and justifying those views using empirical evidence, reasoning logically from stated first principles, etc.
It's not that they have more RAW INTELLECTUAL HORSEPOWER than their liberal analogs - its that having grown up and gone to school in environments that were predominantly filled with teachers/students who always sort of took it for granted that everyone shared some basic (but disputable) liberal presumptions about the world, they had to make the conscious decision not only to hold conservative beliefs but to justify them in the face of otherwise seemingly intelligent people constantly pushing back.
Meanwhile, the liberals all just sort of agreed with each other and never had to develop really tight, cogent arguments in favor of their positions - or even their first principles. The arguments that they struggled with were never about whether liberalism was right or not; the arguments were about which is preferable, socialism or outright Marxism? So they can intelligently debate the latter point for hours on end, but if you really press them on whether *any* form of big government is preferable to small, limited government, they sort of sputter and act like you just suggested that gravity might not exist and they don't even know how to respond to your ridiculous suggestion (because frankly, a lot of them don't.)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20334014) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 4:56 PM Author: Joe Ronimoe
THIS.
Thanks Herbert Marcuse, Frankfurt School, and "critical theory."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20335285) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 1:53 PM Author: ...,,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,,.,--,,.,, (Gang of Five)
TBF, GJ reading Volokh Conspiracy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20334118) |

Date: March 29th, 2012 10:16 AM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Of course its a legit question. They say "do this, or we will take away the bilions we are already giving you for all of medicaid"
No state has any choice
Just another way to hide the true costs of fed actions. Just as we all overpay severely because medicare underpays. The actual costs of medicare/mecicaid are EVEN HIGHER, as if it wasnt frightening enough already.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20333054) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 12:37 PM Author: AZNgirl singing Ice Ice baby near AZNman
If the conturds rule against the medicaid expansion then me thinks ANYTHING is on the table.
HIGHWAY funds. UNI RESEARCH funds. That is all fucking god damn coercion man. You say we need to have a drinking age of 21 to get highway funds, fuck you niggas. We gonna let 12 year olds drink now.
FREEDOM bros.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20333706) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 9:06 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Perfectly valid viewpoint, doesn't change the fact that federalism is required by the Constitution. You want to change that, get an amendment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20337529) |

Date: March 29th, 2012 3:02 PM Author: NihilismSuperTroll
Surprise! All that nonsense with the Constitution was flame. Con judges just employ post-hoc reasoning based on political considerations most of the time too.
Legal scholarship is complete flame.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20334570) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 8:24 PM Author: ...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,...,:::,.,,,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,
forcing me to pay more $$ to the biggest corporations in the country so they can provide more services to boomers who are already richer than me is helping the middle class?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20337221) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 9:12 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
I think he meant help the boomers at the expense of most of the middle class, especially youngs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20337572) |
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Date: March 29th, 2012 9:13 PM Author: ...,...,.::..;,.,:,:,,...,:::,.,,,:,.,.:.:.,:.::.,
Cr. Must be posting from his phone.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1910775&forum_id=2#20337581) |
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