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Teaching >>> BIGLAW

Seriously, by a lot. High school teaching = best job I'v...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
Were you an attorney who left biglaw to become a teacher? I ...
legaleagle  04/04/12
Biglaw 1.5 years, small realestatelaw for a bit, now teachin...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
How old are you? Have a family? Salary?
legaleagle  04/04/12
33. Wife, no kids. 48K or thereabouts. (Edit: I think it mig...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
*is a DLA Piper dingfag* *couldn't handle even shitlaw* *n...
........;;;;..;.;.;.;;.;.;  04/05/12
lol not bad. I think even if all that were true I would take...
oneforthethumb  04/06/12
only if you get to coach soccer/baseball/football/basketball...
Doggie Suicide*  04/04/12
I agree with you on coaching, but I would include a lot more...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
girls volleyball OFS
CarneyLansford  04/04/12
TBF thats a women's job.
Ulysius Johnsmeyer, J.M.  04/04/12
Not what I teach, and definitely not where I teach.
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
ive oddly fantasized about this. what subject do u teach?
.,.,...,;..,.,.,:,,:,.;..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:::,.  04/04/12
STEM.
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
thanks for using "stem" just because there's a cha...
.,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,  04/05/12
do you sleep with your students
..,,,,,,,,,,....  04/04/12
Even as I enter into middle age, it's distressing how fuckin...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
shouldn't it be even more awesome as you yourself get on in ...
..,,,,,,,,,,....  04/04/12
my overall sex drive has dropped very slowly but steadily si...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
u sick pedo fuck their just children
no limit azn  04/04/12
Many of them are 18. Not attracted to the young ones.
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
A bit hypocritical to call him a sick pedo fuck when you're ...
Crossfit bro stylin on partner in moment of hubris  04/05/12
Teaching the same thing like 5 times a day would be shitty.
;.,.;;.;;.,.;;;.,;.,.,..,.;;.;.;;.;.;  04/04/12
I don't do this. There are some stretches where I teach the ...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
How do you deal with the amount of prep?
CHUNG+  04/04/12
I do teach three different classes this year (two sections o...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
Prep for each class is at least one hour. Then you have grad...
CHUNG+  04/04/12
I spend about half an hour per class prepping on average, al...
oneforthethumb  04/05/12
Did you have any idea you would like teaching before you sta...
GaveUpBeingWhite  04/04/12
Yes. Several family members teach/taught - wide range, from ...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
How old are you?
6EQUJ5  04/04/12
33
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
That's not that old.
6EQUJ5  04/04/12
No, but I'm certainly getting there. So far I actually like ...
oneforthethumb  04/04/12
my bro teaches high school. seems pretty shitty. parents whi...
,,,...,,......,,....  04/04/12
My school has very few behavior issues and very little simpl...
oneforthethumb  04/05/12
what high school level material isn't simplistic?
,,,...,,......,,....  04/05/12
Fair enough, maybe you're smarter than me. Most of the stuff...
oneforthethumb  04/06/12
This what I try to tell people who are teachers and complain...
Mark Ironside  04/04/12
teachers are way overpaid. with benefits they make more like...
,,,...,,......,,....  04/04/12
How does it feel to be a BIGLAW failure in the eyes of socie...
AZNgirl honoring WWII vets who killed AZNmen  04/04/12
No they don't. Where are you getting 70+ from?
LA Phil  04/04/12
even in shitty states the benefits from a teaching job are w...
,,,...,,......,,....  04/05/12
What the hell? 25K in benefits? What's included in that figu...
.,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,..,,:::,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.  04/05/12
I'm interested in this. I have a a T14 JD + BIGLAW for 2 yea...
.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,  04/04/12
...
.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,  04/05/12
What, where, and who do you want to teach?
oneforthethumb  04/05/12
Not sure what I'm qualified to teach other than some type of...
.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,  04/05/12
You certainly don't need a Phd to teach at a private high sc...
oneforthethumb  04/05/12
how do you suggest getting my foot in the door? is it eas...
.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,  04/05/12
the fuck do you think? are you really this retarded?
.,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,  04/05/12
no idea. no, i'm not retarded. instead of being rude for no ...
.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,  04/05/12
private HS by a lot. any decent college will require a docto...
oneforthethumb  04/06/12
Describe your school (public/private, union, salary, what ar...
LA Phil  04/04/12
private high school, about 50K, highly competitive. Yes - th...
oneforthethumb  04/05/12
How many hours do you work? Are you upderpaid, overpaid or ...
Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,  04/04/12
Hours? No idea. Doesn't feel like work most of the time, so ...
oneforthethumb  04/05/12
Guy I know from law school did CCN JD --> biglaw --> T...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,;,....,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.  04/04/12
....
- ""  04/05/12
lol, they only let you postpone loans and pay interest. they...
.,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,  04/05/12


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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:30 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

Seriously, by a lot.

High school teaching = best job I've ever had.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392547)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:38 PM
Author: legaleagle

Were you an attorney who left biglaw to become a teacher? I wish I had the balls to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392610)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:50 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

Biglaw 1.5 years, small realestatelaw for a bit, now teaching high school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392686)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:18 PM
Author: legaleagle

How old are you? Have a family? Salary?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393644)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:36 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

33. Wife, no kids. 48K or thereabouts. (Edit: I think it might be a little more than this. Maybe 50-53. Honestly, I don't pay attention, not in it for the $ obv.) They are also paying for another grad degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393805)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 4:23 PM
Author: ........;;;;..;.;.;.;;.;.;

*is a DLA Piper dingfag*

*couldn't handle even shitlaw*

*now doing one of the most looked down upon task*

*cums online to brag*

*feels good about himself*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398436)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 7:58 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

lol not bad. I think even if all that were true I would take it just for the last item on the list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20403861)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:31 PM
Author: Doggie Suicide*

only if you get to coach soccer/baseball/football/basketball team. varsity or J v only. fuck that frosh soph bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392552)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:32 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

I agree with you on coaching, but I would include a lot more sports.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392560)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:49 PM
Author: CarneyLansford

girls volleyball OFS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393887)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:34 PM
Author: Ulysius Johnsmeyer, J.M.

TBF thats a women's job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392576)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:49 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

Not what I teach, and definitely not where I teach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392683)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:50 PM
Author: .,.,...,;..,.,.,:,,:,.;..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:::,.

ive oddly fantasized about this. what subject do u teach?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392690)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:52 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

STEM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392697)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 5:24 PM
Author: .,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,

thanks for using "stem" just because there's a chance those high school kids might be learning electrical engineering

pretty sure "chemistry teacher" isnt out material

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398781)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:52 PM
Author: ..,,,,,,,,,,....

do you sleep with your students

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392698)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:53 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

Even as I enter into middle age, it's distressing how fucking hot some can be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392704)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 7:55 PM
Author: ..,,,,,,,,,,....

shouldn't it be even more awesome as you yourself get on in years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392718)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:24 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

my overall sex drive has dropped very slowly but steadily since my mid-twenties... but hot high school girls are still ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392886)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:28 PM
Author: no limit azn

u sick pedo fuck their just children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392905)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:31 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

Many of them are 18. Not attracted to the young ones.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392933)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 9:16 PM
Author: Crossfit bro stylin on partner in moment of hubris

A bit hypocritical to call him a sick pedo fuck when you're telling him to just fuck their children. Hell, how old are teen moms' kids anyway, 3-4 tops?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20400277)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:16 PM
Author: ;.,.;;.;;.,.;;;.,;.,.,..,.;;.;.;;.;.;

Teaching the same thing like 5 times a day would be shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392842)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 8:25 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

I don't do this. There are some stretches where I teach the same thing twice a day, which I enjoy. I teach different types of STEM classes, not many sections of the same class.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20392889)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:42 PM
Author: CHUNG+

How do you deal with the amount of prep?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393843)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:44 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

I do teach three different classes this year (two sections of one class, one section for the others) so it's a decent amount of prep. But it's high school STEM. Even at the very competitive school where I teach, it's not brain surgery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393860)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:47 PM
Author: CHUNG+

Prep for each class is at least one hour. Then you have grading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393878)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 7:39 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

I spend about half an hour per class prepping on average, although it varies greatly. Some classes, of course, require almost no prep. Grading isn't too bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20395951)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:25 PM
Author: GaveUpBeingWhite

Did you have any idea you would like teaching before you started, and if so why? Did you have to get certified?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393699)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:33 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

Yes. Several family members teach/taught - wide range, from 25+ yr public school teacher to professor-now-major-admin position at HYPS. I went to private schools growing up and had a lot of exposure to private school teaching jobs. No certification - private school - I will almost certainly never teach public.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393777)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:35 PM
Author: 6EQUJ5

How old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393792)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:36 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

33

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393803)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:36 PM
Author: 6EQUJ5

That's not that old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393808)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:37 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

No, but I'm certainly getting there. So far I actually like getting older but I'm sure that will change.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393815)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:50 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

my bro teaches high school. seems pretty shitty. parents whining, behavior issues, simplistic academic material. teaching ugrad or grad level work seems really credited, but not high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393891)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 7:44 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

My school has very few behavior issues and very little simplistic academic material (unless you're a genuine genius, which I'm certainly not).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20395954)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 4:39 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

what high school level material isn't simplistic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398528)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 8:00 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

Fair enough, maybe you're smarter than me. Most of the stuff I teach is at AP-level which for me, while of course quite easy at this point, is not "simplistic".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20403863)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:51 PM
Author: Mark Ironside (still Deadlifter)

This what I try to tell people who are teachers and complain that they don't make enough. I say, look, you could be doing what I do for more money, but you'd want to kill yourself every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393895)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:52 PM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

teachers are way overpaid. with benefits they make more like 70+ even at entry level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393903)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 11:04 PM
Author: AZNgirl honoring WWII vets who killed AZNmen

How does it feel to be a BIGLAW failure in the eyes of society (i.e. XO)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393994)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 11:06 PM
Author: LA Phil

No they don't. Where are you getting 70+ from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20394005)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 12:20 AM
Author: ,,,...,,......,,....

even in shitty states the benefits from a teaching job are worth around 25k, or even more if you have a family. thus u only need about 45k in salary to hit 70k. check out utah, for example, http://www.utahsright.com/. i looked up a friend who is in 4th yr, lists them at 80k all in, and utah is known to be a shitty state for teacher pay. i can't imagine what the #s are like in states like california

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20394663)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 8:49 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,..,,:::,,..,:,.;.:..:.,:,::,.

What the hell? 25K in benefits? What's included in that figure?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20395990)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:53 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,

I'm interested in this. I have a a T14 JD + BIGLAW for 2 years but haven't been published.

Do I need additional degrees? What do I do to get hired?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393906)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 9:21 AM
Author: .,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20396051)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 9:31 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

What, where, and who do you want to teach?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20396075)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 11:07 AM
Author: .,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,

Not sure what I'm qualified to teach other than some type of "-law." My UG degree isn't helpful.

I'd like to teacher at a private university. I couldn't teach HS because I need a phd for that, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20396391)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 1:50 PM
Author: oneforthethumb

You certainly don't need a Phd to teach at a private high schools, although the very best ones are startign to hire them more often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20397249)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 4:37 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,

how do you suggest getting my foot in the door?

is it easier to land a job at a private HS or private college?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398516)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 5:29 PM
Author: .,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,

the fuck do you think? are you really this retarded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398817)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 5:35 PM
Author: .,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,....,,,,,....,.,.,.,.,.,

no idea. no, i'm not retarded. instead of being rude for no reason why don't you answer my question?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398866)



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Date: April 6th, 2012 8:01 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

private HS by a lot. any decent college will require a doctorate. the best way to get hired by a private high school in a given area is to start talking to administrators at the private schools in the area (assuming you have decent academic credentials and can present yourself reasonably well).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20403868)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 10:55 PM
Author: LA Phil

Describe your school (public/private, union, salary, what are your peers like, principal, etc). I have a few friends who teach and their experiences are wildly different. Kudos for finding a job you enjoy and for having a wife who is ok with you not making BIGLAW money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20393922)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 7:43 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

private high school, about 50K, highly competitive. Yes - the wife part is key. She also has a job that she loves making slightly more money (about 70K). Pretty soon I will probably be an admin and make about 60-100K depending on what and where. We definitely have enough money but try to understand the importance of doing fun shit every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20395953)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 11:13 PM
Author: Guys at HBS did that all the time. It was NBD,

How many hours do you work? Are you upderpaid, overpaid or correctly paid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20394058)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 7:41 AM
Author: oneforthethumb

Hours? No idea. Doesn't feel like work most of the time, so I don't keep track of "hours". Some days go from 8 to 3, some days go a whole lot longer.

I think I'm good at what I do so I'm probably a little underpaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20395952)



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Date: April 4th, 2012 11:22 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,;,....,.,:,:,.,.,:,.,.:,:.,:.::,.

Guy I know from law school did CCN JD --> biglaw --> Teach For America. He hated teaching and quit after a year, but I don't think he ever wants to go back to biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20394141)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 5:18 PM
Author: - ""

....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398754)



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Date: April 5th, 2012 5:30 PM
Author: .,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,

lol, they only let you postpone loans and pay interest. they aren't going to fund your fucking shitty law degree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1916263&forum_id=2#20398826)