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I thought HUG students were smart, but this vid suggests otherwi

se. So I'm listening michael sandel's lectures on justice wh...
,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.  04/25/12
tbf, the guy and first girl you described would pass as cons...
Esq.  04/25/12
the faggots refuse to put themselves behind the veil of igno...
cauear  04/25/12
douthat's a joke but he's not nearly this dumb
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is this a freshman class?
cauear  04/25/12
partly attended by freshmen, i'm sure. still though
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Mostly it's just about averages. Every single UG in the wor...
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I feel like a 1500+ scorer, which most HUG students will be ...
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what are the top 10 colleges?
cauear  04/25/12
He did the WUSTL.
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The duke
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Um no. There are many at HYP that don't think at an especia...
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but those harvard > suffolk ppl probably have good career...
cauear  04/25/12
they could fill their entire incoming class with 1600 SATs (...
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They could do that and end up with a less well rounded and p...
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agree with your second point. not so much with the first. wi...
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Unless you have 5 stages of interviews and other crazy rigor...
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so are Harvard kids supposed to have the entire class figure...
Barack Carcetti  04/25/12
It's undergrad, moron. Are they all supposed to be politica...
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Oh please. This isn't how a smart person who's ignorant of p...
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no, the smart person realises it's all moronic bullshit, and...
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Greetings, This. Power just lets itself do what it does.
Mance Gaydar  04/25/12
joke is on the op for actually listening to this stuff
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Sandel's really legit, I had no idea his lectures would be s...
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lol @ ppl in this thread saying ur expecting them 2 already ...
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Thank you.
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Date: April 25th, 2012 4:47 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

se. So I'm listening michael sandel's lectures on justice while doing some busywork, and he takes questions and comments from the audience pretty frequently. to a man, all these people are complete idiots. I feel like I'm back at my old lower t1 that I transferred out of again listening to this shit. there's the guy who got MAF when sandel described Rawls and is all like, "i DESERVE to have gotten in at Harvard, my SAT score is the fruit of my labor! and when people run a race, even if the fastest person doesn't "deserve" his speed, the fastest person encourages the person behind him to run faster, and he encourages the person behind him, and then another, and another, in a mutual circle jerk of encouragement! and Michael Jordan worked very hard to get where he is, his life wasn't no picnic!" There's the girl who suggested that rich people wouldn't do any work if they had to pay substantial taxes. some other girl was like, "um, I think that, like, maybe not [mr. i deserve this], but, like, in my case, maybe, like, my family, um, background maybe um helped me to be where I am today, maybe, and, uh, that, like, socio... economics can help, affect, that. yeah." seriously?

http://www.justiceharvard.org/2011/02/episode-08/#watch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543202)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 5:50 AM
Author: Esq.

tbf, the guy and first girl you described would pass as conservative intellectuals i.e. Ross Douthat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543248)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 6:27 AM
Author: cauear

the faggots refuse to put themselves behind the veil of ignorance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543266)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 6:49 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
Subject: douthat's a joke but he's not nearly this dumb

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543275)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 6:53 AM
Author: cauear

is this a freshman class?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543278)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 7:03 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
Subject: partly attended by freshmen, i'm sure. still though

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543288)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 5:07 AM
Author: ;;.;.;,;,;,;;...

Mostly it's just about averages. Every single UG in the world will have dumbs that sneak through the cracks (AA or clever resume gamesmanship) or gain admission through alternative means. The better the school the smaller percentage of them there will be. Harvard's going to have a stronger overall student body on average than a lower ranked school, but that doesn't mean its class is going to be composed entirely of uber dudes. Also consider that plenty of ppl are going to be science/math heads and oration/poli sci retards. I will agree that the dumbs here tend to be the absolute worst though. They're constantly complimented on their intelligence and are encouraged to be loud and confident. Those are the kind of ppl that do Harvard UG -> Suffolk Law after getting pwned by the LSAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543218)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 5:11 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

I feel like a 1500+ scorer, which most HUG students will be (right?), should at least get a 165 on the LSAT; I had no idea HUG > Suffolk Law people existed. wouldn't it be phenomenally dumb to go to a tt law school out of HUG? there are so many better things they could do.

and yeah, I'm sure the average HUG student is brighter than that of a lower-ranked school, but I thought the average HUG student was actually really smart. I mean, I went to a top ten college, and while I'm sure the people there were a lot smarter than the average American college student, they generally couldn't write or think at an especially high level. for some reason I thought that at HYP this wasn't the case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543220)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 6:09 AM
Author: cauear

what are the top 10 colleges?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543258)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 7:56 AM
Author: .,.,...,.,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,..

He did the WUSTL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543331)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 2:50 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

The duke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545094)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 3:01 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.................

Um no. There are many at HYP that don't think at an especially high level. Athletes, legacies, minorities, and many others. People getting in solely on academic merit is probably like 20%.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545188)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 6:20 AM
Author: cauear

but those harvard > suffolk ppl probably have good careers cause they're so driven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543263)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 3:48 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'....

they could fill their entire incoming class with 1600 SATs (right?), thus eliminating dumbs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545530)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 4:09 PM
Author: ;;.;.;,;,;,;;...

They could do that and end up with a less well rounded and probably less ultimately success class. I think more to the point, even with all 1600 SATs, a certain percentage of people will still say dumbshit or under perform for a variety of reasons. It's like the correlation between law school performance and the LSAT, it's not absolute.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545656)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 4:11 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'....

agree with your second point. not so much with the first. with a tiny bit of leeway you could still select a very well rounded class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545676)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 4:41 PM
Author: ;;.;.;,;,;,;;...

Unless you have 5 stages of interviews and other crazy rigorous processes for assuring that every single student is exactly as advertised, you're going to end up with some mediocrity when picking kids out of high school. Also, HYP didnt get to be HYP just by taking a bunch of 1600s and calling it a day. Athletics, varied AA class, a certain number of legacy/connected candidates (who tend to be successful and also build endowment networks), etc. are traits without which they would not have been able to achieve the status, academic and cultural, that these schools enjoy. If that means couple kids say dumb shit in class every so often, I think that's a trade-off they're comfortable with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545826)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:09 AM
Author: Barack Carcetti

so are Harvard kids supposed to have the entire class figured out before they even take it?

That was one of the really nice things about going to State U for UG, I never felt self conscious about asking questions or maybe saying something dumb in class or to a professor

thats how you actually learn shit, by working through your idiotic first impressions of the material

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543341)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 8:13 AM
Author: .,.,...,.,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,..

It's undergrad, moron. Are they all supposed to be political theory experts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20543347)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 2:49 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

Oh please. This isn't how a smart person who's ignorant of political theory would respond to rawls after reading him for the first time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545089)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 3:49 PM
Author: ........';...;;..;'....

no, the smart person realises it's all moronic bullshit, and tunes out at the back of the class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545543)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 4:46 PM
Author: Mance Gaydar (Greetings)

Greetings,

This. Power just lets itself do what it does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545854)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 2:54 PM
Author: .,.,;...;.,.,,;.;,..,;.,.,.,;..,..;..;;.,..,,

joke is on the op for actually listening to this stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545123)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 2:55 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

Sandel's really legit, I had no idea his lectures would be so remedial-level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545145)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 4:15 PM
Author: .,.,...,.,,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,:....:.,:.::,

lol @ ppl in this thread saying ur expecting them 2 already know the material. their not asking good qs their just spouting off like morons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545697)



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Date: April 25th, 2012 5:08 PM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

Thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1932620&forum_id=2#20545986)