falling for beautiful girl from paris, need serious help part 2
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Date: June 12th, 2012 9:16 AM Author: lawballs Subject: falling for beautiful girl from paris, need serious help (part 2
Need help, please see my prior post for context: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1959846&mc=36&forum_id=2
For those don¡¦t want to read my prior post: she's 22, from paris, very beautiful, smart, stylish..just plain awesome. I met her a month ago, we went out on one date, had amazing time, hooked up, she then went to paris for 3 weeks for vacation (lives in ny now). We stayed in touch every day via whatsapp, except her last few days, when she started getting cold. It stayed that way for one week until I finally got in touch again and she agreed to go out with my again.
Here's what happened: we ended meeting up dinner at upscale restaurant, had an awesome time, and hooked up again (no sex again). She explained to me that the reason she was aloof when she got back is because she hooked up with a friend of hers she¡¦s known for a long time and that she has feelings for him. But she understands that she can¡¦t make anything of it because of the distance. When I asked her if she sees long-term potential between us, she said yes but is worried that I am a player; she also seemed to indicate that she needs time to sort out her feelings. Since I¡¦m insecure, always second-guessing, and hurt by the fact that she hooked up with a guy in paris (even though we only went on one date before) I took it personally. So here's what I did:
The following day I sent her a text saying, "great seeing you last night babe. Enjoy your time w/ your friend today."
She replied, "Thank you for last night babe, I had a great time. See you soon." Then she sent me a picture of her neck since I gave her a hickey and said, "my mom saw it first and said 'at least you had a good time' hahaha."
I took that as a positive text and an indication that she's interested, but I tried to appear distant, aloof, and terse in my response. I simply said "haha your mom is awesome."
Now here¡¦s what I did on Saturday night. I was out with friends at a hotspot and saw her smoking outside a club with some girlfriends. Even though she wasn't with a guy, I was surprised to see her out. And I was still reeling from what she told me about hooking up with the guy in paris... so I brought a hot blonde girl with me into the club and she saw it, but I pretended like I didn't see her. I left with the blonde and 5 minutes later I get the following text:
"You;re at ***!" (the place she saw me). Then 10 minutes later she writes again, "I guess it was you, if you were wearing a striped shirt, and left with a girl."
I was happy she wrote that since she seemed jealous (was she?). then I waited until 5 am to respond and said (playing dumb), "hey, just saw your text! Yeah I was there for a little bit earlier in this night, I didn't see ya though. You should have said hi! How was your night??"
Next morning she replies "you looked busy. It was a good night though."
Finally, I reply, "I wasn't busy. And even if I was, I would have dropped what I was doing to see u. anyway, glad to hear you had a good night :-)"
My questions are as follows:
Did I go to far? Does she like me? What do you advise me to do? Was it bad for me to be seen with the hot blonde? In short, WTF do I do next? For the record, I am crushing hard on her. HARD! Can¡¦t get her out of my mind. Please help.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873104)
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Date: June 12th, 2012 9:18 AM Author: "jefe"
what the fuck
i am not reading this faggot shit
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Date: June 12th, 2012 9:35 AM Author: Circuit City Special (Flash Mob/Forty-Year-Old Soccer Mom (Never Not Real Talk))
(1) Yea, the hooking up with a friend in Paris is a problem. But, the dude is in Paris. Are they very close friends or is the Paris dude just part of her circle of friends? If very close, there may be a problem. If just part of her circle of friends, not much to worry about because you may be able to replace that friendship and romance.
(2) When you send her text messages, do you at all complement her body or the way she acts? Seems like the texts may be a little dull. Perhaps spice it up a little bit by complementing her on the one thing she dislikes about her self. If she hates her ears, say, "those earrings look great on you." I know this may not always work, but seems like you may need to spice it up a little bit.
(3) The chick move is a gamble. How hot was the blonde chick? Did you walk out holding hands, grabbing onto each other, or just as a group? She already thinks that you are a player, and that event may just confirm her thoughts. You should have played it off that you were just with some friends.
(4) Have you met her mom? If so, that is a good sign.
(5) I have only dated one French girl, and I had to be more passionate with her than any of my previous girlfriends. I am latino, so I am already pretty passionate. Try to do that with her on the next date. See how she responds. I am not talking about slamming her against the wall, but cooking her dinner and using some ingredients of her favorite destination. I dated a chick that loved Hawaii, I cooked a nice mahi mahi and bought some pineapple juice. Told her that I couldn't take her to Hawaii, so I tried my best to bring it to her. *Her panties melted on the spot*
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:17 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
julia?
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Date: June 12th, 2012 9:41 AM Author: lawballs
thanks this is very helpful. actually our texts were very witty and lively when she was in paris but i dialed things back after i found out about the guy. and i've learned from experience, saying too much over text, even complimenting, can backfire. but i do compliment her about her appearance all the time in way that i think is a unique and creative
yeah i walked out holding the blone chicks hand. again, i wouldn't have played these silly games had this paris guy not been in the picture.
have not met her mom yet but she talks all the time about how she wants me to meet her, chill at her place, hang out during the day, etc.
your last point is well taken. to be honest, this girl talks a lot of sex and romance and how some of her previous boyfriends were dull and boring in bed. she's much different than any american girl i've dated. it's a bit intimidating but I can deal with it.
so how should I fix this—just send her a text and ask if she’s wants to meet up after work sometime this week?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873135)
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Date: June 12th, 2012 9:46 AM Author: Circuit City Special (Flash Mob/Forty-Year-Old Soccer Mom (Never Not Real Talk))
Yea, French chicks are whole other level of passion. That isn't your biggest concern here, however. I think the biggest problem is the blonde chick. Did she see you walk out holding hands? Also, how hot was this chick? Were you with a group?
Whatever you say, do not say that you did it to get her jealous. The truth will only f- it up here. Perhaps, ignoring it may be the best form of action, but be prepared with an answer if she brings it up at some point. If she saw you walk out with the chick, then she will ask you about it at some point. Perhaps, something like, "Oh, she is my friend's girlfriend, but she was pretty drunk that night. She was falling all over the place."
Edit: Just saw your poast about the blonde. Yea, bro, that is tough but not a killer. Can you play it off as your friend's girl?
Second Edit: If you do it that way, she may think of you as caring and being a protector. Also, what do you have planed for the next date? Also, a lil drama is not that bad. From my experience with the french chick, they like a little drama.
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Date: June 12th, 2012 9:54 AM Author: ,.,...,..,,,.,.,..,.,.,,..,.,...,.,...,.
this is good advice, play it off like it was friend's girl..
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873149) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 10:02 AM Author: lawballs
got it. my plan was to ask her out tonight to see if she's willing to meet up after work for coffee, dinner, walk in the park, whatever. my final question is this: do i address the blonde chick incident in the text, or do i just pretend like things are cool and ask her out? my only concern about doing the latter is that, even if she wants to see me, she may say no, because i didn't really address the hot blonde incident and she thinks i just call her and ask her to meet up whenever it's convenient for me--and that I may be doing this with several girls. however, if I do address the incident on text, that's always risky, and also assumes that she felt jealous/irritated seeing me with her (i know she did but she may not want me to think that). how, then, do i proceed when I ask her out?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873165) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 10:43 AM Author: ....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.............,.....,,..
how old are you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873251) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 10:34 AM Author: ....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.............,.....,,..
why do u just text? why dont you call her?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873224) |

Date: June 12th, 2012 10:37 AM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
People aren't fucking adults anymore about anything, are they?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873231) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:05 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
If you asked a 6th grader what they imagined dating as an adult would be like they might give a response that resembles the OP. But probably not as most would assume that maturity would increase by that point.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873597) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:09 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
u sound mad and jelly as fuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873612) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:13 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
180, caused actual lol.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873632) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:15 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
if that made you laugh then you are either a pumo alt puppet or yourself an actual 8 year old.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873636) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:16 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
I'm a TMF.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873641) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:16 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
that explains it too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873645) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:18 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
Shouldn't you be on some PUA blog asking about if this is a good time for a neg or if you need to DHV more?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873656) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:20 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
i'm sorry that you settled at a very young age for a subpar excuse for a female and now try to degrade everyone else who is actually having a good time dating multiple members of the opposite sex. try not to let it show though. k? thnx.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873664) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:01 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
Yeah man, the OP is clearly the indication of an awesome alpha and not an emasculated faggot.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873855) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:05 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
are YOU seriously talking about emasculated faggots? YOU? with a straight face?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873865) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:59 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
Yep.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874123) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:20 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873665) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:14 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
titcr. i don't think these people have real lives so when they see that others do they get mad and jelly as fuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873635) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:15 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
I'm not hotheaded, it is just a social phenomenon that I find remarkably depressing. I remember this exact shit in middle school when kids were "going out". But in general, the population subset that enjoys "clubbing" is generally obnoxious.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873639) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:41 PM Author: lawballs
well i posted because i know if i mess this up, it will fuck with my mind for a long time. that's a my personality--when i fall for a chick, even after a brief interaction, i'm hooked and beginning second-guessing my every move. and i have a genuine fear of getting hurt, which i'm not the least bit ashamed to admit, at least not here. and it's true: dating in a major city has often a childish, grade-school quality to it but, in the early stages of courtship, one has to play a careful hand to cement something permanent. i know that from experience.
but i've never understood why people make unnecessarily wounding remarks on this forum, particularly when the OP posits a sincere question, whether it's related to work, relationships, or life in general. "faggot" seems to be the default insult. i personally don't have the time and energy to amuse anonymous posters with insults that, in every way, are lacking in creativity and originality. i can’t count the number of times a poster has made comments about how he’s extremely depressed and suicidal, and posters have responded with absolutely sickening comments. seems that 90 percent of the contributors on this site have some kind of severe personality disorder
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874055)
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:59 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
"i know if i mess this up, it will fuck with my mind for a long time"
Seems like this is the real problem you need to work on.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874121) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:10 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
I can't believe that dudes like OP, who second-guess their every move (and for good reason, a lot of the shit he does sounds retarded) get ass
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873613) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:11 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
you sound like an insufferable asshole so i can believe that you get no ass.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873618) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:15 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
lawballs's pumo?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873640) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 12:18 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
yes because no one else can see what is plainly obvious about you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873651) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:01 PM Author: .,.,..,,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,.,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
So then yes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873857) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:07 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
if wit were measured in percentiles yours would stand right around where you height does.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873879) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:11 PM Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:.:,..,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.
not sure if this was addressed to me or tmf. we're both so short
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873900) |

Date: June 12th, 2012 1:23 PM Author: .,.,...,;..,.,.,:,,:,.;..,:::,....,:,.,.:.:.,:::,.
you've been on 2 dates with this chick, haven't sealed the deal yet, and she was abroad banging some other dude in between. describe this "amazing connection" bro. are they the same type of feelings that american girls get when they get romanced by some french dude during their study abroad?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20873946) |

Date: June 12th, 2012 1:43 PM Author: lawballs
well i posted because i know if i mess this up, it will fuck with my mind for a long time. that's a my personality--when i fall for a chick, even after a brief interaction, i'm hooked and beginning second-guessing my every move. and i have a genuine fear of getting hurt, which i'm not the least bit ashamed to admit, at least not here. and it's true: dating in a major city has often a childish, grade-school quality to it but, in the early stages of courtship, one has to play a careful hand to cement something permanent. i know that from experience.
but i've never understood why people make unnecessarily wounding remarks on this forum, particularly when the OP posits a sincere question, whether it's related to work, relationships, or life in general. "faggot" seems to be the default insult. i personally don't have the time and energy to amuse anonymous posters with insults that, in every way, are lacking in creativity and originality. i can’t count the number of times a poster has made comments about how he’s extremely depressed and suicidal, and posters have responded with absolutely sickening comments. seems that 90 percent of the contributors on this site have some kind of severe personality disorder
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874065)
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Date: June 12th, 2012 1:50 PM Author: .,.,..,,.,.,.,:,,:....,:::,...,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,
100% credited. if there were more honest posts from people and normal responses then maybe this board wouldn't be dead. as it stands, it's a human waste dump.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874095) |

Date: June 12th, 2012 2:09 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,..
Dude, just be a normal person. Ask her if she wants to go grab some drinks or something so you don't have to take her to eat all the time. Talk and have a nice evening. Bring her home and have sex. If she asks about the girl, just say she's a friend. You also should have gone to say hello to her when you saw her outside and invited her to come hang. You also shouldn't have sent the last text you bitchmade faggot
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874156) |
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Date: June 12th, 2012 2:20 PM Author: .,.,...,..,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,..
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20874197) |

Date: June 12th, 2012 6:21 PM Author: Box Is Fucking Dead (hedgehog owner)
i wouldn't explicitly lie about the blonde unless she presses for details - u should be fine saying something like, "btw the girl u saw me with the other night is just my friend & i don't have any interest in being more so don't worry, i'm not playing you"
the text about how you'd drop anything was good tho; it def implied in a non-clingy way that you're interested in her beyond a p&d level
i'd say wait until seeing her to mention it... ofc if she seems cold/mad & doesn't want to go out, u could bring it up in text
gl!!!
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Date: June 12th, 2012 6:25 PM Author: ,.,...,..,,,.,.,..,.,.,,..,.,...,.,...,.
please let this thread die :(
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Date: June 13th, 2012 9:23 AM Author: lawballs
sorry to resurrect this thread but for the record, i asked her out last night and she responded very favorably. We’re meeting up after work tonight. I think I’m good :-)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20879070)
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Date: June 13th, 2012 10:02 AM Author: lawballs
haha thanks dude. yeah, i don't pay much attention to the clowns on this forum. my concerns are pretty trivial compared to what some people post about it--chornic unemployment, depression, suicidal ideations, etc. downright shocking how sick and diseased some people are in their responses.
meeting her at the park for coffee after work, keeping it chill. see where the night takes us. next date ill do it large
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#20879146)
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Date: June 13th, 2012 11:10 AM Author: Circuit City Special (Flash Mob/Forty-Year-Old Soccer Mom (Never Not Real Talk))
Mang, brother. Best of luck. I am so jelly right now. Wait, so you're getting coffee at like 8 at night? Does your chick have an accent?
I have a GF, but it is going no where fast. She is a WOC, and she is your typical american chick. Wears jeans and shirts all the time, never exercises, has a poor diet, is annoyed with the thought of walking some place (she prefers to drive), etc.
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 10:19 AM Author: lawballs
sorry man, i don't get on this site that well. things turned out much better than i expected. we're officially in a committed relationship now. i'm taking her away on 4th of july to an exotic destination. completely in love with this girl. i won’t bore people with the details but when we finally met and I had to explain myself about why I was out with that blonde chick that night, I told her the truth: I said I went out to get my mind of her, and that I didn't want to get hurt; since I was unsure about how she felt, I felt like it was the right thing to do. She then said, I know you got my text right away, why did you wait three hours to reply? I told her, yes, I received your text immediately but I didn’t want to see you that night, since my very purpose for being out was to forget about you. She seemed very touched by it all and greatly appreciated my sincerity. Since she thought I was a player, and because I had already pulled of a “power play,” I didn’t see the need to make up any bullshit. I was just honest.
Never met a girl like this.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1968998&forum_id=2#21001873)
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Date: July 2nd, 2012 11:06 AM Author: Circuit City Special (Flash Mob/Forty-Year-Old Soccer Mom (Never Not Real Talk))
Nice bro. Parisian chicks are very credited. What kind of exotic location? Safari?
Edit: One of my best friends is dating a European chick. She is Swiss, and she is 180. She maintains her small frame, exercises often (and she eats healthy), and she seems like she would make a nice mom. I am going to start trying to cop me a Euro chick.
I went to Chicago this past weekend, and I saw a chick just scarfing down Al's Beef, bro. I can eat one (maybe two), but this one chick was going gang busters.
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