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Lib here, support death penalty for white on black crime, take ?

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.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
Basic argument? Anything new? Or just an appeal to deterrenc...
.,.,.;;:,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.  06/12/12
Deterrence is somewhat relevant, but the larger issue is tha...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
Flame aside, this para merely supports making Crack and Coca...
Cow goes Moo  06/12/12
So do you think it would be fair to run a race where half of...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
lulz. I think a more accurate description would be for Race ...
Cow goes Moo  06/12/12
Well, you would be wrong.
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
And as for black on white crime?
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
Absolutely not
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
tyft
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
Most black on white crime is the result of structural inequa...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
Ok, so what about white on white?
No Country for Short Men  06/12/12
No DP.
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
What's the rule for mulatto on black and white on mulatto?
Pottow the Exterminator  06/12/12
So would you repeal all of the 14th amendment or only the pa...
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
First, I don't think that it is so clear that these laws wou...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
Any facially racist law like this would be a per se violatio...
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
Well, there is certainly some caselaw to support that as thi...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
so basically you havent thought your flame that through
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
Like I said it would require a much longer, multi paragraph ...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
Just let Soto "discover" the constitutionality of ...
Cow goes Moo  06/12/12
What about the other minorities?
Circuit City Special  06/12/12
Most other minorities don't grow up in the kind of history o...
.,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,  06/12/12
Decent flame.
and when i started to squeeze the bar brother  06/12/12
Could have been fun, but it was run by a tard.
Pottow the Exterminator  06/12/12
cr. XO flames are just about goading people now rather than ...
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
I would disagree. I think that there are two broad classes o...
Cow goes Moo  06/12/12
right, but the point is that we are seeing fewer and fewer i...
jake from statefarm  06/12/12
fair. If that is your point I would agree.
Cow goes Moo  06/12/12


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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:14 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875219)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:16 PM
Author: .,.,.;;:,..,.,.,:,,:,...,:::,...,,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.

Basic argument? Anything new? Or just an appeal to deterrence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875232)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:22 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Deterrence is somewhat relevant, but the larger issue is that I think we need to manifest the fact that laws have been structured against minorities for so long by counter structuring most laws now. For example, legislators have made the penalty for crack (more often used by black and minority victims) far harsher than chemically identical cocaine more often used by whites. Eliminating the disparity is not sufficient to redress the many structural problems we have built into the "system" to tear down minorities. We should eliminate the distinction between crack and cocaine, but whites should receive about 1.5 times the sentence that a black person receives for the same quantity. Of course, the war on drugs has problems from the bottom up, so this is just a topical example. In actuality I believe most drugs should be legalized.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875285)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:24 PM
Author: Cow goes Moo

Flame aside, this para merely supports making Crack and Cocaine punishment times the same. You fail to support the full 180 switch. This then applies to w on b crimes, make the punishment the same. Not worse...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875299)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

So do you think it would be fair to run a race where half of the runners are not permitted to wear shoes? Obviously not Then why would it be fair to make them run half the race barefoot, and midway through, after everyone else has a solid head start, tell them that everyone can put on shoes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875312)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:29 PM
Author: Cow goes Moo

lulz. I think a more accurate description would be for Race 1 one group ran barefoot, than 50 years later we can either allow both groups to run with shoes or deny the other group (made up of different people by now) shoes for Race 2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875323)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Well, you would be wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875334)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:16 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

And as for black on white crime?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875236)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:18 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Absolutely not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875249)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:21 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875275)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:24 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Most black on white crime is the result of structural inequalities that the powerful have built into a system that might allow escape for some disadvantaged people (such as poor white individuals) but for whom escape is impossible if you are compounded in the inequalities you face (i.e., poor African American teens in single parent households)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875295)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:26 PM
Author: No Country for Short Men

Ok, so what about white on white?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875311)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

No DP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875314)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: Pottow the Exterminator

What's the rule for mulatto on black and white on mulatto?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875317)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

So would you repeal all of the 14th amendment or only the parts necessary to allow a racist law like this to be constitutional?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875318)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

First, I don't think that it is so clear that these laws would be unconstitutional. As I said, the crack cocaine laws basically do this right now with only the thinnest patina of some "objective" distinction. But if actually required, obviously I would support a constitutional amendment to facilitate the necessary changes to our legal structure to reform our criminal laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875330)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

Any facially racist law like this would be a per se violation of equal protection. It's not ambiguous when you say black on white gets X but white on black gets Y. Justification for differential treatment is irrelevant under the last 50 years of scotus precedent (ever since Korematsu was de facto overturned)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875335)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:33 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Well, there is certainly some caselaw to support that as things stand now. I don't necessarily agree and I think that a honest assessment of a plan like mine along constitutional dimensions would yield different results, but that's a matter I'd have to discuss in a longer post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875344)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:38 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

so basically you havent thought your flame that through

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875377)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:39 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Like I said it would require a much longer, multi paragraph post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875383)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:31 PM
Author: Cow goes Moo

Just let Soto "discover" the constitutionality of the law in our "living Constitution".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875331)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: Circuit City Special (Flash Mob/Forty-Year-Old Soccer Mom (Never Not Real Talk))

What about the other minorities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875337)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:36 PM
Author: .,.,.;.,...,..,.,:,,:,..,..,::,..,:,.,.:,..:.,:.:,

Most other minorities don't grow up in the kind of history of subregation, domination and contempt that black people do. However, a case can be made for, i.e., Mexican Americans who basically had their homeland raped and their homes stolen from them as part of the Manifest Destiny narrative we've seen from our elites over the last 300 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875366)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:33 PM
Author: and when i started to squeeze the bar brother (service guarantees citizenship)

Decent flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875346)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:34 PM
Author: Pottow the Exterminator

Could have been fun, but it was run by a tard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875360)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:43 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

cr. XO flames are just about goading people now rather than executing thoughtful, immersed flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875402)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:47 PM
Author: Cow goes Moo

I would disagree. I think that there are two broad classes of flame and that they should be judged within their respective category. This flame falls into the over-the-top egregious, laughable category (notably inclusions here would be basically everything Johnsmeyer (sp) says). You cannot compare this category to the long, non-obvious flames.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875437)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 5:48 PM
Author: jake from statefarm

right, but the point is that we are seeing fewer and fewer instances of the latter and marked increases of the former.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875452)



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Date: June 12th, 2012 6:16 PM
Author: Cow goes Moo

fair. If that is your point I would agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969214&forum_id=2#20875649)