So Midlaw has less with ridiculously unrealistic clients...
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Date: June 19th, 2012 6:14 PM Author: ...,.....,,,....,,,,,,....,,,.,.,,,,..,.,,,.......
troof
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916497) |

Date: June 12th, 2012 10:44 PM Author: LathamTouchedMe
Midlaw problems:
1) Rate-sensitive clients
2) Less sophisticated clients want more contact and "hand-holding"
3) As an associate it's difficult to rise up and become a partner unless you can develop business for the firm. In biglaw there are ways to stay on without having to be your own rainmaker.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20877348) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:06 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
True. However, if you are an entrepreneurial/salesy type number 3 might be sort of positive because in midlaw you might actually have a chance at bringing in business.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916050) |

Date: June 19th, 2012 3:41 PM Author: But where will I get $1bb? (Guys at HBS...)
So it looks more and more likely that I might do this.
Sounds like people are bill about 1800 at this firm realistically, maybe a little more. I am surely going to keep billing 2200-2300 at my current biglaw firm, and that assumes that I have to reject work all of the time.
It would be a 75k pay cut on base salary, but IF I billed the same hours as my current firm (which I wouldn't plan on doing), I would have a guaranteed bonus (assuming I stayed) that would more than make up for it.
Any more thoughts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20915630) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:13 PM Author: But where will I get $1bb? (Guys at HBS...)
yeah, this is "boutique". All of the lawyers have at least 6 years of experience, starting pay is like $180k base and everyone has a former biglaw/top school pedigree.
I don't need the training. I have been billing 2200+ hours for 7 years. I am well trained.
And yes, billing rates are about 30% lower than biglaw....which should make it easier to get clients.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916091) |

Date: June 19th, 2012 5:03 PM Author: ...,,.,..,,..........,,,.,.,....,,....,.........,
Yes. On the other hand, they don't want to spend money on legal fees for shit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916038) |

Date: June 19th, 2012 5:06 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
75k pay cut = midlaw paying only 90k?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916048) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:20 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
190k midlaw aint that bad. i would do that for the less hours. is it that much of a difference after taxes anyways?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916157) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:23 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
sounds like a no brainer then
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916190) |

Date: June 19th, 2012 5:07 PM Author: nutella
sounds good for a law gig if you only have to bill 1800 but why not just go in-house and not bill ever again while getting paid about high-100s at your level and low-mid $200k with bonus?
the billing and the service-oriented nature of law firm work is annoying as hell.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916053) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:08 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
y dont u do this? o cause no one wants u
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916060) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:11 PM Author: But where will I get $1bb? (Guys at HBS...)
Um, those type of inhouse jobs are not that easy to find, and if you do find them, you are often competing with lots of junior biglaw partners that want out...and the majority of the ones I am aware of that pay that much usually involve similar hours.
I agree, but I think I have maxed out on biglaw and can't wait anymore for the perfect 9-5 inhouse job.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916077)
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:11 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
how long have u been in biglaw? age?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916083) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:17 PM Author: ...,.,.,.,,.,.,,,.,.,,...,.,....,.,.,,,.,..,.,.,.,
single?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916132) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:18 PM Author: ...,.,.,.,,.,.,,,.,.,,...,.,....,.,.,,,.,..,.,.,.,
howd u meet gf/wife
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916143) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:26 PM Author: ...,.,.,.,,.,.,,,.,.,,...,.,....,.,.,,,.,..,.,.,.,
how r u not bored with her already
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916213) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:53 PM Author: ...,.,.,.,,.,.,,,.,.,,...,.,....,.,.,,,.,..,.,.,.,
describe her
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916378) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 6:08 PM Author: ...,.,.,.,,.,.,,,.,.,,...,.,....,.,.,,,.,..,.,.,.,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916464) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:21 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
u work every weekend as a 7th year biglaw associate? flame bro
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916165) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:26 PM Author: ..,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,
thats seems to be true only if ur one of the chosen ones. but since ur not on an equity partnership track, u can slack off easily.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916216) |
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Date: June 19th, 2012 5:26 PM Author: ..,.,;..;...;:..;.,...;..,..:.,....
what you think it gets easier?
the junior partners probably have it the worst, after midlevels, then probably the senior associates 7th and 8th years, then midlevel partners, then juniors, then senior partners
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1969450&forum_id=2#20916219) |
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