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Columbia Dental School vs Michigan Law School

Which is better?
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
law
.,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.  06/15/12
explain
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
Being a dentist doesn't seem that great. Most can't get into...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
Plus moufs are just gross.
.,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,.,,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,  06/15/12
so, is UMLS > Columbia dental? I can see that dentistry i...
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
Sure, I'd say UM >>> Columbia Dental
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
What's so good about UMLS?
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
Hey now. Don't put words in my mouth.
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
Just curious as to what UMLS can offer that pwns Columbia de...
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
well, i think the expected value of the degrees favors Michi...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
Are you aware that an average "general" dentist ea...
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
i am aware that many MFE pumos on xo say such things, but i ...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
This is a question that is always asked on SDN, "What i...
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
Fuck. This. Gay. Earth.
My Prole Called Life  06/15/12
Could be man. I think it's very difficult to find an "a...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
at least, according to the ADA stats, dentistry seems to pwn...
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
Didn't the mid career surveys from HLS and UVA show average...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
working how many hours? Also, do you think the trend is stil...
,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,  06/15/12
like i said before, i don't claim to know what the global tr...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
Are you aware that lawyers work about twice as many hours as...
,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,  06/15/12
I hereby dub thee: Dentistry Pumo.
Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster  06/15/12
ok man. but what kept you from being a dentist?
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
bad decision making, my fault.
,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,  06/15/12
it's. never. too. late.
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
too late... doesn;t make financial sense to take out another...
,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,  06/15/12
just do in-state, bromide. can't everyone go to fair harvard...
United Against a Nuclear Latham  06/15/12
plus, as one dentist told me, you are working in a tiny spac...
Mark Ironside  06/15/12
As opposed to biglaw associate working in a tiny office all ...
bubblegum  06/15/12
UMLS is about to get mad prestige points when Romney announc...
.,.,..,,.,,,..,:,,:....,:::,..,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,  06/15/12
Option 3: killself.
Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster  06/15/12
...
Pottow the Exterminator  06/15/12
Dentistry at Columbia. You won't be able to accomplish an...
CapTTTainFalcon  06/15/12
what kind of fucking idiot will pick law school over dental ...
bubblegum  06/15/12


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Date: June 15th, 2012 1:23 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

Which is better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20892710)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 1:23 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::,.

law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20892712)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 1:24 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20892714)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:08 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

Being a dentist doesn't seem that great. Most can't get into specialties (ortho, OMFS) and there are a lot of companies looking to commoditize family dentistry, opening up huge corporate franchise practices in strip malls and paying a straight and not that high salary to employee dentists. Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons is still >>>> than CLS, but I've never understood this bort's hard on for dentistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893054)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:09 PM
Author: .,.,,..,..,.,.,:,,:,.,,:::,...,:,.,.:...:.,:.::, (never talk to strangers)

Plus moufs are just gross.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893058)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:16 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

so, is UMLS > Columbia dental? I can see that dentistry isn't all that hot, but how do you compare it with law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893104)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:29 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

Sure, I'd say UM >>> Columbia Dental

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893176)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:34 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

What's so good about UMLS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893197)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:36 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

Hey now. Don't put words in my mouth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893205)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:38 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

Just curious as to what UMLS can offer that pwns Columbia dental.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893215)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:53 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

well, i think the expected value of the degrees favors Michigan: still putting lots of people in biglaw which, despite some evidence to the contrary the last four years, still puts the vast majority of its alumni on a career track to earn at least low six figures for life and many make more. like i said above, i think there is going to be a lot of downward pressure on dentist's earnings, although i'm not trying to MFE about where dental, medical or legal professions are headed in general.

but moreover it just seems like being a dentist would suck. i know the mating cry on this bort now is whining about how much law sucks and saying it's a miserable profession, but i really like being a lawyer. non-specialist dentists seem to have a very limited menu of repetitive procedures that they do, that can't be all that challenging on a daily basis (though this is nothing more than a hunch on my part). plus dentists absolutely do live in the shadow of doctors. i mean, in some sense, Don't We All. but dentists took all the same classes in college and most of them only "discovered" their love of dentistry after being found wanting, either in the classroom or on the MCAT. i went through like 70 or 80% of the pre-med classes and they're not *that* hard. more is asked of you than some libarts classes (that ask almost nothing), but it's not that bad. people on xo who think dentists are geniuses just because they *took* biology and physics (and came away with a gpa ~3.3 or 3.4 in many cases) have never taken any pre-med classes and just worship "dat STEM" because it's the new trolling fad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893284)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:57 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

Are you aware that an average "general" dentist earns 210K/year working 35 hrs/week? What sort of $$$ and hours do you think an average UMLS grad will have? And unlike MDs, there is no need for residency training. Just 4 years and that's it.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893295)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:01 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

i am aware that many MFE pumos on xo say such things, but i know several dentists who dispute the baseline xo sets for their profession (30 hr wks/dental assistant does everything/businesses are turnkey and run themselves/bank $250k and hit the golf course by 2:30 3 days a week).

but i am truly sorry that PP copped DAT STEM and is working in his bathrobe and socks right now doing the windmill with his dick. i am truly sorry for you're lots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893318)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:05 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

This is a question that is always asked on SDN, "What is the average salary for <insert specialty here>". The most accurate source (in my opinion) for salary info is the ADA Practice Income Survey. Places like salary.com use stats from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which only has salary info on people who are EMPLOYED (this is only about 10-15% of dentists), therefore it is inaccurate. The ADA's survey gives a more accurate depiction of what dentists and their respective specialties could be expected to make 5+ years out of dental school.

DISCLAIMER: Please do not respond with the typical "people shouldn't do dentistry for the money" crap. I'm not posting this info in order to start a debate about what the "proper" reasons are to get into dentistry. These are merely statistics that answer a question that MANY predents ultimately have.

Practice Net Income:

General Practice Dentists: $233,200

Periodontists: $279,540

Orthodontists: $290,200

Pediatric Dentists: $346,070

Endodontists: $366,340

OMFS: $516,260

Source: https://www.ada.org/sections/profess...fs/09_sdpi.pd

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=792428

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893345)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:08 PM
Author: My Prole Called Life

Fuck. This. Gay. Earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893360)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:13 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

Could be man. I think it's very difficult to find an "average" salary in the med and dental worlds bc there is less transparency and ive seen many surveys differ by 50% or more for a given specialty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893390)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:14 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

at least, according to the ADA stats, dentistry seems to pwn law hard. And this stat isn't even for Columbia dental grads where most people specialize.

So how does UMLS pwn Columbia dental?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893391)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:17 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

Didn't the mid career surveys from HLS and UVA show average grads making $250k or more after 10-15 years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893409)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:19 PM
Author: ,.,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,,...,,.,.,

working how many hours? Also, do you think the trend is still the same in law?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893425)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:24 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

like i said before, i don't claim to know what the global trends will be for law or dentistry. but i know plenty of people from my class/firm/other friends in law who have transitioned into "cushy" jobs that still pay a lot. but they're all working more than 35 hours a week, no question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893458)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:27 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,

Are you aware that lawyers work about twice as many hours as dentists? Most dentists don't even work on Fridays.

HLS/UVA grads with 10-15 years out of school making the same money as a GENERAL dentist, working twice as many hours. Wow law really does suck.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893469)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:29 PM
Author: Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster

I hereby dub thee: Dentistry Pumo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893478)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:29 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

ok man. but what kept you from being a dentist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893479)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:30 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,

bad decision making, my fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893485)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

it's. never. too. late.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893513)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:36 PM
Author: ,,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,,.,.,.,

too late... doesn;t make financial sense to take out another 300K of loans after so much loans from LS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893517)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 3:39 PM
Author: United Against a Nuclear Latham

just do in-state, bromide. can't everyone go to fair harvard's school of dental medicine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893539)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: Mark Ironside

plus, as one dentist told me, you are working in a tiny space all day long, which gets really old after a while

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893111)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 7:18 PM
Author: bubblegum

As opposed to biglaw associate working in a tiny office all day (days are way longer in biglaw then in dental offices) looking at shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20894638)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:09 PM
Author: .,.,..,,.,,,..,:,,:....,:::,..,:,.,.:..:.,:.::,.,

UMLS is about to get mad prestige points when Romney announces his running mate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893060)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:29 PM
Author: Gitmo Detainee tearing up his HOPE poster

Option 3: killself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893178)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 2:45 PM
Author: Pottow the Exterminator



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893251)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 4:06 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

Dentistry at Columbia.

You won't be able to accomplish any deed of consequence coming out of either school; you'll only be able to make money, and you might as well do so in the way that's least risky and most rewarding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20893683)



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Date: June 15th, 2012 7:19 PM
Author: bubblegum

what kind of fucking idiot will pick law school over dental school? May as well kill self if you do that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1971411&forum_id=2#20894644)